NOCTURNALDEATH
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im not listening to someone who talks to themselves all over this forum lil broi recommend you EAT more140 lbs @5'7", "geeezus take the wheel",
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Ateam2023
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Annd if you really take a deep dive , you would find i speak from EXPERIENCE and facts, its ok to be a "small guy", but you don't need to get offended by "The Truth", Or be a whining "small guy", I guess the TRUTH hurts,
niqTM
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lol @ asking for advice and rejecting it when you don't want to hear the truth.
you don't need GH. you need to eat more. your skinny and soft. GH won't help that l.
The skinny guys hate being called small, tiny or skinny like a big guy hates being called fat lol.
I think they hate it more than bigger guys lmfao
Ateam2023
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imo Anything under 200 lbs is small, im not anywhere close to either 200 or 140 lbs , just @175 lbs and im dropping weight weekly so far on my "micro dose Reta"but at 5'7" it looks decent especially @-10 % bf , and all these "uber Sensitive" new members lately, i just made honest suggestion and without saying anything as to his stature, Fn Pussys
niqTM
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Same. I'm around the same as you 5'8" 185lbs, 13%. Not huge by any means but I know I look like I can do a few pullups. I don't feel like I need to get much "bigger" than this.
Hell im 5'10 at 240. Dont know my BF% lol but I dont have no beer belly, thats for sure. Started tirz 2 weeks ago to help drop some of that hard to get rid of fat just to lean out a bit but still on a mild/low cycle to keep and build muscle. I dont care about scale numbers lol.
Ghoul
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Keeping your blood pressure in ideal range is the main thing. Below 120/80.
If you need BP meds, both Telmisartan and Cilnidipine offer additional kidney protective effects that go beyond reduced blood pressure.
Ateam2023
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Hows that "Coach" , my recent monthly checkin numbers at the dr last week , over 50 plus been running gear for alonnng time i get up to 130/80 sometimes
at home , but usually hovering around this
Ghoul
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That's a beautiful thing!
(the device and your BP)
Ok, systolic would benefit from being a few points lower but we all know how much it varies throughout it the day, and I would say whatever you're doing is working well enough to not mess with it.
Lol thats REAL low for me and I take BP meds
Just checked mine, better than I thought lol 123/61 and im on 4iu of hgh along with "everything else" lol
atruse
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Have you tried glycerol powder - brand name hydroprime ?
It’s supposed to help with heat tolerance or thermoregulation at least for during exercise
Or am I misinterpreting what you’re asking?
Photon
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Ghoul
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Below 120/80 has been the standard in the most recent (2017 ish) guidelines from the various cardiology organizations that set them. They're extremely conservative, so the supporting data to make the changes had to be enormous. They're so slow to make changes the new "ideal" of below 120/80 was a decade behind all the research that said that's what it should be, and it'll take primary care doctors another decade to realize the standards changed 8 years ago, lol.
The most recent update to BP treatment guidelines (relevant to us) is they now advise immediately starting with meds to lower BP once it's over 130/80 (no more waiting for a year of lifestyle changes, since we now know organ damage can occur in that time, kidney, eyes, etc), and starting with *low dose 2 class combination* drugs (lower side effect risk, and works better). The low dose combo treatment approach is something discussed extensively here on Meso over a year ago.
Canada has done a good job of putting together an easy to read guide on the 2025 updates to BP treatment guidelines:
I didnt have high BP I had EXTREME BP! The day they finally decided to treat me my RN sister and one of my wifes RN friemds told me to go to the ER. My BP was like 215 over something!
Whats funny today that the "normal" bp standards are WAY less than many moons ago when 130s were standard.
They lower the standard to push meds
Photon
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They lower the standards because there is more research over the years indicating lower (to a certain extend is better). They have trouble lowering it, because lower = more meds = insurance companies making noise.
Yes my kidneys took a hit and have never really recovered. Levels are always off no matter what I do. I dont drink alcohol, VERY rarely have a soda. Always water and juices. Ill throw in cranberry juice now and then and even some vitamins for support
Photon
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Ghoul
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No, they lower the targets because the evidence of better outcomes at those numbers becomes clearer over time. There are massive, government funded, 40 year+ ongoing studies following tens of millions of patients through their lives to see what happens at different BP levels over the very long term.
There are way too many eyes on the freely available data, and resulting guidelines for some unscientific, ulterior motive conspiracy to go unnoticed. Literally millions of doctors and scientists worldwide.
Almost all BP meds are ultra cheap generics. There's not enough profit in 5¢ pills to fund the bribes it would take.
And in forums where primary care doctors don't think the public is watching, they BITCH and COMPLAIN about the extra workload tighter guidelines put on them, ie "I don't have enough time in the day as it is to manage all these new prescriptions!"
Which shows where their priorities are...
