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Same for here and a Pctzone order so probably same shipment
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price is here
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Raww
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Landed in NY today.
CharlesV
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parcellsapp is cool, but it doesn’t play nice with VPN’s. at least not mine. i’m not sure what your set up is, but I have to disconnect any time i want to check their tracking.
Inkniron87
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Same
manbat
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Hadn’t considered that. I run a VPN constantly + use Brave browser which will throw off a lot of things. Turned it off and switched to safari and still got the same issues, though. Appreciate the heads up for the future regardless.
malfeasance
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I noticed Chlorthalidone in Photon's post. It appears to show a lot of promise in cardiovascular and stroke outcomes compared to HCTZ, which had no effect:
DeodatoFulci
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Its good to know my package is in good company. Haha. It also hit NYC earlier today.
Raww
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That's interesting. I wonder what mechanism it has that gives it that effect.
BP_6
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I have taken chlorthalidone for years. It may not be for everyone, but personally I have had no real issues with it.
bigdaddyandfriends
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Chlorthalidone and indapamide are both great choices for diuretic meds, particularly in those already using an ARB. They lower serum potassium, retain calcium promoting bone mineralization and reducing risk of developing kidney stones in a complimentary manner to potassium citrate. Eplererone may be a better option for androgen users but it raises potassium as do ARBs and beta blockers. This can be significant in some people - telmisartan, nebivolol, and eplererone together can be dangerous.
Used the Telmiheal Trio (two pils per day, so 80mg telmisartan, 20mg cilnidipine, and 12.5mg chlorthalidone) from PCT and it worked great when I increased my dosages to 100mg/kg/wk. I'm since backed off and decided to stay on 2.5mg (us pharma) indapamide in addition to the telmi and cilnidipine, mainly to lower kidney stone risk as I've had a few; if you've had one, you know anything that reduces the risk of getting another is well worth taking.
No side effects from either drug - they are structurally dissimilar but act in the same manner with a long half life allowing once per day dosing, other than potency they are largely interchangeable. Worth mentioning that diuretics only transiently increase urine volume, after initiating treatment that is determined by available fluid volume rather than whether diuretics are being taken.
Used the Telmiheal Trio (two pils per day, so 80mg telmisartan, 20mg cilnidipine, and 12.5mg chlorthalidone) from PCT and it worked great when I increased my dosages to 100mg/kg/wk. I'm since backed off and decided to stay on 2.5mg (us pharma) indapamide in addition to the telmi and cilnidipine, mainly to lower kidney stone risk as I've had a few; if you've had one, you know anything that reduces the risk of getting another is well worth taking.
No side effects from either drug - they are structurally dissimilar but act in the same manner with a long half life allowing once per day dosing, other than potency they are largely interchangeable. Worth mentioning that diuretics only transiently increase urine volume, after initiating treatment that is determined by available fluid volume rather than whether diuretics are being taken.
BP_6
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I got on the chlor vs the hctz as an add on many years ago due to reading about edarbi of all things. When they were developing their dual drug edarbyclor. Stating unlike most other BP meds that were using HCTZ, they found in there trials basically that the chlorthalidone gave better BP control results and the side effects were about the same.
bigdaddyandfriends
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I was using Edarbi for a few years standalone, then added nebivolol which did basically nothing. Recently switched to telmi just to save money ( was getting a 90 day supply from Truax for $150, so 15x the price of telmi), and it seems to work equally well. I think Edarbi's major advantage is that it has a longer active time on the AT, so takes longer for BP to rise if a dose is missed. On the other hand, telmi has more pronounced collateral PPAR agonism (per one study I read).
I have azilsartan/cilnidipine combo pills from PCT and more on the way so will switch back over to that at some point. Telmi and azilsartan are essentially interchangeable. I even tried both together for a short time, 80mg azilsartan + 40mg telmisartan - that did not further lower my BP to a significant degree, so I think the antihypertensive effect of both plateaus near 80mg, which is likely why that's the largest dosage available.
malfeasance
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"side effects were about the same"
I tried HCTZ, and it gave me dizziness and horrible cramps during workouts and also on hot days just relaxing. The first time I did squats after taking it I was seeing stars. I would get horrible cramping in my calves and sometimes down one entire side of my torso (imagine that happening while doing incline presses, for instance, and you can see the problem).
I finally stopped taking it, and the cramps went away.
So chlorthalidone is likely to cause the same problems for me?
malfeasance
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BP_6
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That I couldn't tell you. However if you had issues before, it doesn't necessarily mean you would or wouldn't now with a different drug but in the same basic class.
Could be worth giving it a try and see how you respond.
bigdaddyandfriends
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Typo obviously, 10mg/kg
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