Heavy Metals

[TallandSmall]

I know @readalot and @Sampei did a bunch of heavy metals testing and that the general consensus is that heavy metals testing is a waste of money. I occasionally hear about this study from Australia and apparently they do have heavy metals in their AAS there. Other than the stated conflict of interest (they run a testing service), is there a reason why Australia would have an issue with heavy metals but other countries don’t? Raw are all presumably coming from the same place. Sketchy producers in sketchy neighboring countries?

Lead Astray? The Hidden Contaminants in Australian Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid Market and Their Potential Health Impact - PubMed

The variability and contamination of AAS products pose significant health risks. Implementing a comprehensive surveillance and testing system is essential. This approach would track trends, identify contaminants and provide consumers with real-time, accurate information to support informed...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[readalot]

general consensus is that heavy metals testing is a waste of money

F the "general consensus". Was never a waste of money to add data points for surveillance. Surveillance always is an ongoing process.

Thanks for the article!

 

[Sera]

In regard to the article, it’s most likely just fear mongering. They need to justify their funding somehow. This company did an interview with Janoshik IIRC.

edit:
View: https://youtu.be/WO3FGPPmars


From memory, they mention heavy metals and Jano flat out says he’s never seen heavy metals at problematic levels in steroids, he only gives an example of DNP that did have concerning levels.

In the article: I haven’t looked over all of the results for every metal, but the results for the levels of lead are still below USP limits. You’d need to take 17.5ml a week of the worst oil they tested to exceed the USP limits of 5mcg/day.

So it seems a misleading title at first glance.

Readalot’s tuna habit seems more scary in regard to heavy metals .

 

[readalot]

Readalot’s tuna habit seems more scary in regard to heavy metals

That tuna will definitely move the needle. Good point.

 

[Sera]

After reading a little more:

“
For injectable products, heavy metal analysis identified a number of elements, of which 1 mil was within PDE guidelines [9], see Table 2 for the relevant list and PDEs. For injectable products, heavy metal analysis identified lead at 1.57 μg/mL, which is below the PDE of 5 μg/day for parenteral use. Cadmium was detected at 0.07 μg/mL, below the parenteral PDE of 2 μg/day, and arsenic at 0.09 μg/mL, also within the 15 μg/day parenteral limit. Among other elements, copper (1.00 μg/mL) was well below its PDE of 300 μg/day, chromium (1.59 μg/mL) was under the 1100 μg/day limit and nickel (1.71 μg/mL) was below the 20 μg/day parenteral threshold.

For oral products, heavy metal analysis identified a number of elements, of which 1 g was within PDE guidelines [9], see Table 2for the relevant list and PDEs. For oral products, heavy metal analysis (reported in μg/g) detected lead at 1.94 μg/g, remaining below the oral PDE of 5 μg/day if daily intake is under ~2.5 g. Arsenic was found at 2.35 μg/g, within the 15 μg/day oral PDE, and nickel at 27.48 μg/g, which could exceed the 200 μg/day oral PDE depending on dose size. Copper (229.46 μg/g) and chromium (7.37 μg/g) were within their respective PDEs of 3000 and 11,000 μg/day.”