Deca vs NPP

[Muscles’]

LMAO. Different strokes (literally) for different folks. That's some funny shit. Hopefully some drug user who likes clean family fun doesn't pop in and report to Millard. We really need to the laughing emoji.

Body-wise npp has only been well for me. Mental-wise I think have a different mentality with certain aspects of life.

 

[Ateam2023]

I’m thinking about adding 70mg npp to my current 500 test, 150 primo in hopes of a little joint lubrication. Hoping I will be ok with that in regard to prolactin

ive added @100 mg of npp weekly to my trt+/hgh and its been a very nice "joint lubricant" , I haven't checked prolactin yet , but thats in coming weeks along with my once a year labs i ask my pcp to pull for me, he Always gives me a sideways glance as hes typing in the order, as long as your doing it at least 3x a week doses , i havent noticed much , besides a lil npp blues the first few weeks , but ymmv

 

[xrayphoton13]

My doc prescribed me deca for my knee a few months ago. I'm currently at 100mg/week and it's enough for my knee to feel great again. I've been playing around with one injection or two injections per week but can't say I notice a difference. I even swapped in NPP for a couple weeks doing 2 or 3 injections per week and didn't notice a difference like I thought I would. Taeian Clark likes to say deca is more anabolic and NPP is more androgenic due to ester length; and NPP is like a mini tren. I can't say I noticed any truth to those statements

 

[Ateam2023]

My doc prescribed me deca for my knee a few months ago. I'm currently at 100mg/week and it's enough for my knee to feel great again. I've been playing around with one injection or two injections per week but can't say I notice a difference. I even swapped in NPP for a couple weeks doing 2 or 3 injections per week and didn't notice a difference like I thought I would. Taeian Clark likes to say deca is more anabolic and NPP is more androgenic due to ester length; and NPP is like a mini tren. I can't say I noticed any truth to those statements

i've noticed increased vascularity since ive been on npp , veins have seemingly doubled in size, And only doing @100 mg weekly ,,

 

[xrayphoton13]

i've noticed increased vascularity since ive been on npp , veins have seemingly doubled in size, And only doing @100 mg weekly ,,

Yup. I've noticed this with NPP/deca, EQ, and masteron.

 

[OldGHGuy]

NPP is best to use for your first run to see if you respond well to the drug, otherwise longer esters/Deca are king.

I personally like to swap Deca w/ NPP at the end of a cycle, so I can control the taper as I transition into a cruise and can drop the Nandrolone on command; this is one of my favorite uses of short esters.

When you swap, do uou use the same weekly dose or go less with NPP (I read that NPP is actually stronger than Deca but I have no experience with NPP)

 

[ve79]

When you swap, do uou use the same weekly dose or go less with NPP (I read that NPP is actually stronger than Deca but I have no experience with NPP)

Decca always gave me water retention bad but I felt great in the gym. I just don't like how long it stays with you. I never used npp but not sure if I want to keep pinning so frequent

 

[MadaFacor]

I just re-read this thread after a LONGER than I like cruise. Got excited and thinking it might be time.

 

[ve79]

Decca always gave me water retention bad but I felt great in the gym. I just don't like how long it stays with you. I never used npp but not sure if I want to keep pinning so frequent

Definitely the draw back of how long it dose stay with you I agree as fast as water retention you can fix that by a clean diet . I'm not going to say your going to be dry because Deca will put water in the muscles Wich is beneficial and joints it out ways the side effects of looking a little bloated look Wich is just temporary. I love Deca I think it's a fantastic drug

 

[MadaFacor]

I just came across this post—how are you finding it, OP? I added it about a week ago, and I’m loving how it has filled me out and made me look more round! However, I've been experiencing some discomfort in my elbows. Has anyone else dealt with this?

Just saw that I never responded. It went very well. Did have to abandon ship about week 18 because of blood pressure and unacceptable weight gain. Can't say it was the Deca. I added in EQ at about week 8 and started blowing up. Put on nearly 20 lbs over the last 6 weeks and blood pressure started trending towards 140 over 75 even with 80mg Telmi and 10 mg Nebivilol. Not worth the risk..... especially since father had KCD. Next round will make sure I build in significantly more cardio. Have been cruising and on deficit for a about 7 weeks now and lost all of the bloat. Blood pressure is golden (115 ish over 65). And RHR back to low 60s. The Renpho bioimpede scale (I know....shitty accuracy) does say I am up about 6-10 lbs of lean body mass and down several % BF. Dexa inbound. Overall, I will take it as a win.

 

[MadaFacor]

Just saw that I never responded. It went very well. Did have to abandon ship about week 18 because of blood pressure and unacceptable weight gain. Can't say it was the Deca. I added in EQ at about week 8 and started blowing up. Put on nearly 20 lbs over the last 6 weeks and blood pressure started trending towards 140 over 75 even with 80mg Telmi and 10 mg Nebivilol. Not worth the risk..... especially since father had KCD. Next round will make sure I build in significantly more cardio. Have been cruising and on deficit for a about 7 weeks now and lost all of the bloat. Blood pressure is golden (115 ish over 65). And RHR back to low 60s. The Renpho bioimpede scale (I know....shitty accuracy) does say I am up about 6-10 lbs of lean body mass and down several % BF. Dexa inbound. Overall, I will take it as a win.

Forgot to add the BP is money AND I dropped the Nebivilol. Telmi is working well. Pay attention to your BP boys.

 

[FortyFiveLbs]

NPP is best to use for your first run to see if you respond well to the drug, otherwise longer esters/Deca are king.

I personally like to swap Deca w/ NPP at the end of a cycle, so I can control the taper as I transition into a cruise and can drop the Nandrolone on command; this is one of my favorite uses of short esters.

Interesting… I run NPP for every cycle, love the shit. Planning on Deca for my first time next growth phase, gonna run the it a bit higher than I normally run NPP though. Usually just 300-400mg NPP at the start of a cycle and pull it around week 12-14. Gonna run the Deca at 500-600 and keep caber on hand as per usual.

 

[zneekah]

Forgot to add the BP is money AND I dropped the Nebivilol. Telmi is working well. Pay attention to your BP boys.

Seems like your pulse pressure (Sys - Dia) blew up from Deca. I seem to have the same issue atm with npp. I get readings like 130/60 = 70 pulse pressure which is too high. (under 60 or 50 seems better).

Kinda tricky to manage this with BP meds. Gonna try hctz.

 

[ve79]

Interesting… I run NPP for every cycle, love the shit. Planning on Deca for my first time next growth phase, gonna run the it a bit higher than I normally run NPP though. Usually just 300-400mg NPP at the start of a cycle and pull it around week 12-14. Gonna run the Deca at 500-600 and keep caber on hand as per usual.

You don't need that much Deca trust me. I run 250 a week and it's great

 

[bigead]

For me Deca at 80 to 120mg a week on a cruise helps joints with low sides for me.

 

[demon]

For me Deca at 80 to 120mg a week on a cruise helps joints with low sides for me.

same for me 120mg all the time.

 

[FortyFiveLbs]

You don't need that much Deca trust me. I run 250 a week and it's great

Way more experienced than you, and it’s subject to the individual’s goals.

 

[ve79]

Way more experienced than you, and it’s subject to the individual’s goals.

Don't ever direct message me ever! I simply just made an opinion. Im not solisitating anything according to your DM. What ever you need to say you can simply and politely say here not in a DM to make a threat!

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Don't ever direct message me ever! I simply just made an opinion. Im not solisitating anything according to your DM. What ever you need to say you can simply and politely say here not in a DM to make a threat!

 

[ve79]

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It's ridiculous. This guy had to DM me and try to act tough. He doesn't know me and I don't know him and I don't even care to. This is a forum we are all entitled to our opinions