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If there’s anyone still waiting on UAE packs, mine touched down today. Ordered Oct 1. Haven’t had a chance to look in detail but it looked like everything was accounted for at first glance.
Nice. Ordered UAE 9/27. Tracking 10/2. Is going out for delivery today usps. I’m a little stressed cause it hasn’t showed up on my informed delivery. Hoping they got my address right -_-
 
I'll be honest it is because of you @Ghoul that i began looking into Cilnidipine, I respond pretty well to meds, 5 mg of ciln has leveled out my stress that i used to have tight traps, headaches, heart pounding in my throat and with such a small dose its been like a huge sigh of relief. Thank you again for being such an advocate for it.
Thanks for sharing your experience. These are all things my husband complains of, ordering it for him. He’s a pretty laid back guy, but life stress is a bitch and we’re self employed. Is there a reason you started on 5mg instead of 10?
 
Thanks for sharing your experience. These are all things my husband complains of, ordering it for him. He’s a pretty laid back guy, but life stress is a bitch and we’re self employed. Is there a reason you started on 5mg instead of 10?
It was largely to see how I tolerated it, I tend to have high response to medications for some reason
 
Just had a package touch down with a few extra goodies not upset they over stocked my order slightly haha. Ordered Set 30 and just touched down today.
 
What's crazy is I've still never heard of Ciln anywhere outside of this board. Even with all of the easy AI searching that reads medical journals and summarizes in one click.

Where did you first hear about it?

Of course if I type it into any search there's a ton of research on it. It's like it's a forbidden drug in America!
I learned of it from @Ghoul and grateful for that knowledge. Like other doctors in USA, I didn’t even know it existed.

ARB helped my pre-existing diastolic hypertension and hypertensive response to supraphysiologic androgens (trestolone and RAD140 in particular).

But I have a sympathetic nervous system that overreacts to work stress (and my wife when she’s hormonal) and even on 80mg azilsartan my BP would spike during the day > 150/90.

Cilnidipine fixed that, and I get a nice calming effect from it too. I’ve accumulated a nice stash in case shipping problems recur.

I was taking nebivolol previously, 5-10mg per day, and it made very little difference. Beta blockers in general are no longer prescribed for high blood pressure; only useful one in healthy adults is propranolol as it’s non-selective and lipid soluble, enabling it to readily cross the blood-brain barrier, so it has potentially useful CNS effects (anti-anxiety mostly) works in the brain unlike the newer/cardioselective others.

Hypertension is rarely controlled well with a single drug. Basically this is the way to combine them:

First line: ARB (telmisartan or azilsartan are best in class, 40-80mg/day)
Second line: CCB (Cilnidipine only, 10-20mg/day)
Third line: Diuretic (potassium-losing ie chlorthalidone or indapamide if using ARB with elevated K+, otherwise potassium-sparing eplererone, finererone, spironolactone)

Spironolactone is less selective than eplereone or finereronex, and binds to androgen receptors acting as an anti-androgen. Most men avoid it but may not be of much significance for those with supraphysiologic levels. My wife uses it and with daily microdoses of 2mg pharma winstrol or 2.5mg anavar.

Some recent studies have linked beta blocker use with bad outcomes. Mostly these were in MI patients, but another reason to avoid for blood pressure management. For RHR ivabradine is designed for and specific for that; works very well typically collateral effects.
 
I learned of it from @Ghoul and grateful for that knowledge. Like other doctors in USA, I didn’t even know it existed.

ARB helped my pre-existing diastolic hypertension and hypertensive response to supraphysiologic androgens (trestolone and RAD140 in particular).

But I have a sympathetic nervous system that overreacts to work stress (and my wife when she’s hormonal) and even on 80mg azilsartan my BP would spike during the day > 150/90.

Cilnidipine fixed that, and I get a nice calming effect from it too. I’ve accumulated a nice stash in case shipping problems recur.

I was taking nebivolol previously, 5-10mg per day, and it made very little difference. Beta blockers in general are no longer prescribed for high blood pressure; only useful one in healthy adults is propranolol as it’s non-selective and lipid soluble, enabling it to readily cross the blood-brain barrier, so it has potentially useful CNS effects (anti-anxiety mostly) works in the brain unlike the newer/cardioselective others.

Hypertension is rarely controlled well with a single drug. Basically this is the way to combine them:

First line: ARB (telmisartan or azilsartan are best in class, 40-80mg/day)
Second line: CCB (Cilnidipine only, 10-20mg/day)
Third line: Diuretic (potassium-losing ie chlorthalidone or indapamide if using ARB with elevated K+, otherwise potassium-sparing eplererone, finererone, spironolactone)

Spironolactone is less selective than eplereone or finereronex, and binds to androgen receptors acting as an anti-androgen. Most men avoid it but may not be of much significance for those with supraphysiologic levels. My wife uses it and with daily microdoses of 2mg pharma winstrol or 2.5mg anavar.

Some recent studies have linked beta blocker use with bad outcomes. Mostly these were in MI patients, but another reason to avoid for blood pressure management. For RHR ivabradine is designed for and specific for that; works very well typically collateral effects.
I was recently prescribed propranolol for anxiety/RHR. I did not tell them I was on Clenbuterol and I had an unpleasant reaction and learned they aren't compatible.
 
I got some recent orders. One small, one big. Was a test after all the shit went down. Both arrived (I am in NYC).
 
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