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SwolieGuacamole said:
There are now 2 untested test e batches.

Whatever is current and being sold, and what was sold in September (allegedly sent in ~9/10). The batch prior to September was his first batch, when he first introduced himself to the forum with all proper testing.

I asked him to confirm that jano now has 2 separate batches (current & September. And to also confirm that what is being used for September isn’t now a rebrew).
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Little bump so this doesn’t get lost.
 
sionnach said:
AI ape memecannon loaded and ready, sir. What's on the shill talking points memo for today?
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Shill #90210 code name CoyotePuss is going to float a testimonial stating 50mg dbol between 2 pieces of cheese made his grandfather stand up out of his wheelchair and kiss an ethnic baby on the forehead. Our job is to rally and celebrate.

Deposit hit shill #8311 code name SwellyGuacamelly’s account late last night. His job is to run interference and boost visibility. Boss says if we add 12 pages by midnight he’ll triple our Christmas bonuses. God speed soldiers!
 
Well @Bandern If you take the Test E, 2 untested batches situation, with compiled excuses.

And combine that with OTHER on going situations…...

-Violet tops being marketed and sold as “premium” WITHOUT prior testing to back claims (actions show money superseded standing behind a true premium product). And purity testing LOWER than your “standard” GH lol.

-Anadrol coming in 50% under (which has now been revealed that it was through third-party testing. So primal couldn’t avoid disclosing this to you guys.) Were the 25s sent in to confirm they aren’t 12.5?

-Test 50 having a 25% overage, and a 15% variance between “same batch testing”.


It looks to me like we have a testing issue going on here. Both with what’s being tested, and getting actual testing completed.


Who’s brewing?


Keep making jokes and poking me (primal included), and I won’t let this go.

This is acceptable behavior for a FOUR MONTH old source? This is the meso standard these days?

You’re some desperate gear junkies if you defend this shit.
 
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SwolieGuacamole said:
There are now 2 untested test e batches.

Whatever is current and being sold, and what was sold in September (allegedly sent in ~9/10). The batch prior to September was his first batch, when he first introduced himself to the forum with all proper testing.

I asked him to confirm that jano now has 2 separate batches (current & September. And to also confirm that what is being used for September isn’t now a rebrew).
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There's
(1) Vials with no batch label
(2) Vials with P10
(3) Vials with P11

I think Primal and a member has both P11 at Jano.
What vials do you have?

Any issues with Sep samples that were sent in that weren't posted can easily be fixed if Primal orders a HPLC test on them. SEP date will be displayed as received and OCT as tested date. That would close off this discussion for good.
 
SwolieGuacamole said:
Well @Bandern If you take the Test E, 2 untested batches situation, with compiled excuses.

And combine that with OTHER on going situations…...

-Violet tops being marketed and sold as “premium” WITHOUT prior testing to back claims (actions show money superseded standing behind a true premium product). And purity testing LOWER than your “standard” GH lol.

-Anadrol coming in 50% under (which has now been revealed that it was through third-party testing. So primal couldn’t avoid disclosing this to you guys.) Were the 25s sent in to confirm they aren’t 12.5?

-Test 50 having a 25% overage, and a 15% variance between “same batch testing”.


It looks to me like we have a testing issue going on here.


Who’s brewing?


Keep making jokes and poking me (primal included), and I won’t this go.

This is acceptable behavior for a FOUR MONTH old source? This is the meso standard these days?

You’re some desperate gear junkies if you defend this shit.
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He just acts so cavalier and smug about it. That's what bothers me. I respect people who can take accountability. Excuses reek like dog crap, and you can tell when you're talking with an excuse maker because they just can't help themselves. What is really telling that I don't think primal knows about is the way people talk about the "other vendor" in the vendor threads on here. He is the "other vendor" and nobody has anything good to say. His attitude on here comes across as very out of touch. You can't excuse away the plastic primal. There is absolutely nothing you can say to fix that gcms match. Your braniac chemist approach just reads like excuses. A real man would own it and say, hey, I don't agree it's plastic, but that kind of report doesn't happen in elite tier production which is what we strive to be, and I'm not going to let it happen again
 
Photon said:
There's
(1) Vials with no batch label
(2) Vials with P10
(3) Vials with P11

I think Primal and a member has both P11 at Jano.
What vials do you have?

Any issues with Sep samples that were sent in that weren't posted can easily be fixed if Primal orders a HPLC test on them. SEP date will be displayed as received and OCT as tested date. That would close off this discussion for good.
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I have P10, which there is no testing for. P11 then obviously being the current.
 

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SwolieGuacamole said:
I have P10, which there is no testing for. P11 then obviously being the current.
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I think he said previously its the one from the test he did when he started selling, but my understanding is that vials at that point of time had no batch numbers so idk.

From what I've seen, most people here who purchase US dom gear don't want to send stuff in for testing. It's a something that's done alot more often for CN gear not US dom gear.

At this point even if he posts results, it'll be for P11.
Without sending yours in, you'd never know what it is.
 
Photon said:
Any issues with Sep samples that were sent in that weren't posted can easily be fixed if Primal orders a HPLC test on them. SEP date will be displayed as received and OCT as tested date. That would close off this discussion for good.
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I have said this, no exaggeration, about 10 times.

If there wasn’t enough oil to run GCMS, but enough to run HPLC, why wasn’t the HPLC posted at bare minimum to dead this topic.

No one here is asking, or cares about, GCMS. Especially on a batch not being sold anymore.

So why has this been his crutch as to the reason for the delay? It doesn’t make sense and looks suspicious.
 
SwolieGuacamole said:
I have said this, no exaggeration, about 10 times.

If there wasn’t enough oil to run GCMS, but enough to run HPLC, why wasn’t the HPLC posted at bare minimum to dead this topic.

No one here is asking, or cares about, GCMS. Especially on a batch not being sold anymore.

So why has this been his crutch as to the reason for the delay? It doesn’t make sense and looks suspicious.
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What I'm more confused about is how a test was ordered and paid for, samples sent in, samples received but no testing nor reports were given.

Anyone wanna send me free BTC?
 
You see Timmy, sometimes, some adults want to stay angry and go hard, and be super serious all the time. And the others, they want to have fun, lighten the mood, shitpost a little among friends. Those people having fun, they’re called “shills”, Timmy, because they don’t go along with the angry man’s agenda. Making jokes = defending someone’s wrongdoings. Those pesky fun-havers are not to be trusted.
 
Photon said:
What I'm more confused about is how a test was ordered and paid for, samples sent in, samples received but no testing nor reports were given.
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Dude. Yes lol.

Primal should be more concerned about “Hey Jano, I paid for this test and still have no results 6 weeks later.”

I didn’t even wanna bring that up or touch on it. But again, it just adds more to the pile, making it look like complete bullshit.

But this is why I told him to post screenshots as proof. There are way to many excuses and lies for “delays”
 
Primal_Pharma said:
You know I’m game brother.
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Awesome, let's do it and put this polystyrene bottle top filter question to bed for HC gear/BB (as a start).

Please put together a scope of work that addresses your team's concerns. We can vet it here, and I see no reason why you can't steal @Photon's template.

(1) Samples, +/- controls, etc. Who makes the samples, especially the controls?

(2) Analytical test plan

(3) Analytical lab(s).

You can't lose. You find soluble plastics (and or additives) and you changed the game. Processes get changed accordingly. You don't find anything and you went above and beyond.

Funds? Maybe a source / testing fund collaboration? Curious what people think.

Thanks for considering and the constructive dialogue.

Move this discussion to your other thread after overall alignment is reached?
 
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