MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[SwolieGuacamole]

There's
(1) Vials with no batch label
(2) Vials with P10
(3) Vials with P11

I think Primal and a member has both P11 at Jano.
What vials do you have?

Any issues with Sep samples that were sent in that weren't posted can easily be fixed if Primal orders a HPLC test on them. SEP date will be displayed as received and OCT as tested date. That would close off this discussion for good.

I have P10, which there is no testing for. P11 then obviously being the current.

 

[Photon]

I have P10, which there is no testing for. P11 then obviously being the current.

I think he said previously its the one from the test he did when he started selling, but my understanding is that vials at that point of time had no batch numbers so idk.

From what I've seen, most people here who purchase US dom gear don't want to send stuff in for testing. It's a something that's done alot more often for CN gear not US dom gear.

At this point even if he posts results, it'll be for P11.
Without sending yours in, you'd never know what it is.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Any issues with Sep samples that were sent in that weren't posted can easily be fixed if Primal orders a HPLC test on them. SEP date will be displayed as received and OCT as tested date. That would close off this discussion for good.

I have said this, no exaggeration, about 10 times.

If there wasn’t enough oil to run GCMS, but enough to run HPLC, why wasn’t the HPLC posted at bare minimum to dead this topic.

No one here is asking, or cares about, GCMS. Especially on a batch not being sold anymore.

So why has this been his crutch as to the reason for the delay? It doesn’t make sense and looks suspicious.

 

[Photon]

I have said this, no exaggeration, about 10 times.

If there wasn’t enough oil to run GCMS, but enough to run HPLC, why wasn’t the HPLC posted at bare minimum to dead this topic.

No one here is asking, or cares about, GCMS. Especially on a batch not being sold anymore.

So why has this been his crutch as to the reason for the delay? It doesn’t make sense and looks suspicious.

What I'm more confused about is how a test was ordered and paid for, samples sent in, samples received but no testing nor reports were given.

Anyone wanna send me free BTC?

 

[DoubleDeez]

You see Timmy, sometimes, some adults want to stay angry and go hard, and be super serious all the time. And the others, they want to have fun, lighten the mood, shitpost a little among friends. Those people having fun, they’re called “shills”, Timmy, because they don’t go along with the angry man’s agenda. Making jokes = defending someone’s wrongdoings. Those pesky fun-havers are not to be trusted.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

What I'm more confused about is how a test was ordered and paid for, samples sent in, samples received but no testing nor reports were given.

Dude. Yes lol.

Primal should be more concerned about “Hey Jano, I paid for this test and still have no results 6 weeks later.”

I didn’t even wanna bring that up or touch on it. But again, it just adds more to the pile, making it look like complete bullshit.

But this is why I told him to post screenshots as proof. There are way to many excuses and lies for “delays”

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

#janogate2025

 

[readalot]

You know I’m game brother.

Awesome, let's do it and put this polystyrene bottle top filter question to bed for HC gear/BB (as a start).

Please put together a scope of work that addresses your team's concerns. We can vet it here, and I see no reason why you can't steal @Photon's template.

(1) Samples, +/- controls, etc. Who makes the samples, especially the controls?

(2) Analytical test plan

(3) Analytical lab(s).

You can't lose. You find soluble plastics (and or additives) and you changed the game. Processes get changed accordingly. You don't find anything and you went above and beyond.

Funds? Maybe a source / testing fund collaboration? Curious what people think.

Thanks for considering and the constructive dialogue.

Move this discussion to your other thread after overall alignment is reached?

 

[readalot]

You see Timmy, sometimes, some adults want to stay angry and go hard, and be super serious all the time. And the others, they want to have fun, lighten the mood, shitpost a little among friends. Those people having fun, they’re called “shills”, Timmy, because they don’t go along with the angry man’s agenda. Making jokes = defending someone’s wrongdoings. Those pesky fun-havers are not to be trusted.

Relevant thread that reviews much of this.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

You see Timmy, sometimes, some adults want to stay angry and go hard, and be super serious all the time. And the others, they want to have fun, lighten the mood, shitpost a little among friends. Those people having fun, they’re called “shills”, Timmy, because they don’t go along with the angry man’s agenda. Making jokes = defending someone’s wrongdoings. Those pesky fun-havers are not to be trusted.

Maybe if you were a business owner yourself, you’d have better insight into seeing primals behavior as suspicious. (Unless the shill is the business owner. Well in that case, you would defend the subpar behavior).

So let me give you the floor. You feel that any point/concern I’ve raised is illegitimate?

 

[Anonymous member 154437]

Maybe if you were a business owner yourself, you’d have better insight into seeing primals behavior as suspicious. (Unless the shill is the business owner. Well in that case, you would defend the subpar behavior).

So let me give you the floor. You feel that any point I’ve raised is illegitimate?

Like I said to primal yesterday he's selling drugs not tampons, you're demanding emails and trackings and exact times he shipped illegal drugs out of the country wondering why you get ignored

Primal doesn’t like me fucking up that drug money. We’re all some streets dudes here. Some of us at least….

You know how it goes brother.

I thought this was so funny too lmfao. Low level "street dude" (reseller) "fucking up that drug money"

Let's come back to reality

 

[DoubleDeez]

Maybe if you were a business owner yourself, you’d have better insight into seeing primals behavior as suspicious. (Unless the shill is the business owner. Well in that case, you would defend the subpar behavior).

You feel that any point I’ve raised is illegitimate?

I don’t see any of your points as illegitimate, and I haven’t defended any behavior except perhaps with the post you quoted, as I will always defend the behavior of those who come to this thread for reasons that don’t align with yours. Having fun on this thread is not a crime. Multiple conversations can take place in a thread at once — two people can nerd out, while others can shitpost. No one is stopping you from doing what you wanna do. What Primal responds to is his business and if you want to blame the fun-havers for not getting anywhere with your crusade, that’s all fine and good but it doesn’t mean anything.

I have been a self-employed business owner of sorts, I guess? I was a cam girl for 8 years. The beauty of not having a boss is being able to decide who you do and don’t wish to interact with. I was never forced to be pleasant to or even acknowledge people who acted disrespectful towards me. I could block them and move on with my day without getting an earful about it from anyone. And the douche I blocked is free to go harass someone else. It’s a sweet gig.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Like I said to primal yesterday he's selling drugs not tampons, you're demanding emails and trackings and exact times he shipped illegal drugs out of the country wondering why you get ignored

I thought this was so funny too lmfao. Low level "street dude" (reseller) "fucking up that drug money"

Let's come back to reality

Why are you speaking for him? Why did you post a discount code for him? What surprise did you have for me?

I’d love to know who you are.

Primal? Primal is a street drug dealer, on the Internet. What are you 15? Is this guy a pharmacist?

These dudes cook in trap houses and sell gear behind fronts. We can’t be serious with this bullshit.

Leave me alone dude lol. You can’t fuck with me.

 

[Anonymous member 154437]

These dudes cook in trap houses and sell gear behind fronts. We can’t be serious with this bullshit.

You'd be surprised...

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

You'd be surprised...

Cooks when mom and dad isn’t home?

Don’t let me walk you into a trap. Ego and emotion leads to slip ups. Let it go.

 

[Matty_G]

Im late for the shill meeting. Is tra and eq still on schedule to be restocked before Halloween?

 

[Turkeybuilder]

So let me give you the floor. You feel that any point/concern I’ve raised is illegitimate?

Let’s say in the near future — everyone who sent in their Test E, including batch P10 and P11, (assuming the batch with no label is the one that is current from May), the results come back perfect. What happens then?

we actively have both missing batches enroute to jano or have already reached jano, so all we can do is wait. Not only from primal, but from customers too. So what happens if the results come back as expected? Do you then believe primal that it was some sort of misunderstanding? Or is it no matter what happens with these vials that are with jano, it won’t satisfy you?

 

[ANAL_Bolic]

I bought Test E 2 different times when test c sold out the batch before this. One batch of test e the vial is shorter than the other, but they both have P10 on them. Did he just use different vials?

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Let’s say in the near future — everyone who sent in their Test E, including batch P10 and P11, (assuming the batch with no label is the one that is current from May), the results come back perfect. What happens then?

we actively have both missing batches enroute to jano or have already reached jano, so all we can do is wait. Not only from primal, but from customers too. So what happens if the results come back as expected? Do you then believe primal that it was some sort of misunderstanding? Or is it no matter what happens with these vials that are with jano, it won’t satisfy you?

No. Because this isn’t the only issue. I don’t see how people aren’t seeing the bigger picture.

The test E situation is the catalyst for me driving scrutiny at primal as a whole

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

I bought Test E 2 different times when test c sold out the batch before this. One batch of test e the vial is shorter than the other, but they both have P10 on them. Did he just use different vials?

No one knows anything at this point.

Here’s the real answer. Too much time has lapsed to have real concrete, defined answers. The window has closed.

At this point nothing matters, unless it comes back massively off. Or if we have big variances between “same batch” blind testing. But who knows what exactly they’re testing at this point, which is my point. Primal did a great job at creating confusion. Which makes people turn a blind eye.


But, the thing that does hold constant through out, testing is an issue with everything. GH, anadrol & test 50 being other examples I’ve given to back my reasoning behind calling attention to primal.

And that’s only what I’ve personally looked into. I’m sure there are more discrepancies if you look hard enough.

Again. This place is a mess, only being here for 4 months. You can poke holes in every aspect of his operation.