Steroid Bust Poland September 2025

[readalot]

Are you going to say I was correct too, or is that reserved only for you two lovebirds?



Source?

My bad. I thought this was sincere discussion rather than fun game of "stump the chump". Anyway, hope the references are useful to someone.

 

[readalot]

Would there be any benefit in going down to 0.1um?
Ive got .1um PES and recently just ordered PTFE.

There is post on here somewhere comparing 0.1 vs 0.2.

Endotoxins? No.

 

[Photon]

There is post on here somewhere comparing 0.1 vs 0.2.

I've tried searching but those search terms aren't the best lol. Let me try again..

 

[readalot]

I've tried searching but those search terms aren't the best lol. Let me try again..

I will try to find it.

 

[Photon]

I will try to find it.

Are you refering to this?

R

Post in thread 'Enhanced Testing Database'

Jan 3, 2025

What’s your take on filtering though 0.1μm filters… I saw a chart somewhere once I forget who posted it… might be insignificant but wanted to hear ur take…

Good summary here.

Bacteria - Size, Shape and Arrangement

In studying bacteria found in various environments in nature, they widely vary in size, shape, and arrangement. Learn more here.

www.microscopemaster.com

0.1 smaller than 0.2. 0.2 should do the job.

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[readalot]

Are you refering to this?

R

Post in thread 'Enhanced Testing Database'

Jan 3, 2025

What’s your take on filtering though 0.1μm filters… I saw a chart somewhere once I forget who posted it… might be insignificant but wanted to hear ur take…

Good summary here.

Bacteria - Size, Shape and Arrangement

In studying bacteria found in various environments in nature, they widely vary in size, shape, and arrangement. Learn more here.

www.microscopemaster.com

0.1 smaller than 0.2. 0.2 should do the job.

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Yeah. There go you. And even those little buggers (mycoplasmas) are tough with 0.1.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211339818300224

 

[deadbeef]

My bad. I thought this was sincere discussion rather than fun game of "stump the chump". Anyway, hope the references are useful to someone.

Am I not supposed to question his assertion that there is no endotoxin in a vial when it arrives to the user, especially when I have testing that shows otherwise? And based on that, I ask again, what procedure is usable by laypeople, and not a procedure in a research paper, to get rid of the endotoxin? And how are you being sincere giving me procedures I cannot use?

 

[readalot]

Am I not supposed to question his assertion that there is no endotoxin in a vial when it arrives to the user, especially when I have testing that shows otherwise?

Question away. I am sure there is plenty of endotoxin count floating around in UG peptides. I never scratched the surface on that one based on personal interest/bias.

And based on that, I ask again, what procedure is usable by laypeople, and not a procedure in a research paper, to get rid of the endotoxin?

I don't know of one.

And how are you being sincere giving me procedures I cannot use?

I was sincerely providing info. Made no claim otherwise than just sharing techniques that can be employed in industry.

I just thought you lovebirds comment was sort of chippy. But that is your perogative.

Anyway, wish you the best and always appreciate your brain.

Edit: didn't understand you were trying to identify a method to remove endotoxins from product in your possession. What did report state?

 

[Sera]

Would there be any benefit in going down to 0.1um?
Ive got .1um PES and recently just ordered PTFE.

I wouldn’t use 0.1 with hgh. But it works fine with other peptides.

 

[Photon]

I wouldn’t use 0.1 with hgh. But it works fine with other peptides.

Due to shear stress?

 

[Sera]

Due to shear stress?

Even 0.2 pes from cobetter doesn’t work with hgh without causing aggregates. (Unless I use the polysorbate 20 bac water to reconstitute, which protects against shear and hydrophobic interactions).

Obviously I’m not saying these aggregates are proven to be bad for you or anything but I prefer to get it right if I’m going to do it you know? Maybe they can affect the immune system or something and I’d prefer to avoid it.

I think there’s a combination of shear stress and hydrophobic-ness that causes it. Pes is generally hydrophilic but if the protein is sensitive then even the slight hydrophobicness can cause denaturing.

I was considering trying cobetter’s PVDF as they claim is even more hydrophilic and lower protein binding than their PES. Although I am not sure since I really need to stop buying stuff lol.

 

[deadbeef]

Anyway, wish you the best and always appreciate your brain.

Likewise.

Edit: didn't understand you were trying to identify a method to remove endotoxins from product in your possession. What did report state?

It's not my product, but it affirms my interest in endotoxin removal since filtering can only give me sterility. I am pro-filtering since I filter all of my peptides (my oils don't need to be filtered), but ghoul could never see that because once he gets a whiff of someone questioning him all he sees is an attack that must be dealt with.

The test in question actually exceeded the lab's detection limit of 500EU so it is somewhere, possibly much, north of that.

 

[readalot]

The test in question actually exceeded the lab's detection limit of 500EU so it is somewhere, possibly much, north of that.

Wow!!! Thanks for the data point.

Peptide product?

 

[Photon]

Even 0.2 pes from cobetter doesn’t work with hgh without causing aggregates. (Unless I use the polysorbate 20 bac water to reconstitute, which protects against shear and hydrophobic interactions).

Obviously I’m not saying these aggregates are proven to be bad for you or anything but I prefer to get it right if I’m going to do it you know? Maybe they can affect the immune system or something and I’d prefer to avoid it.

I think there’s a combination of shear stress and hydrophobic-ness that causes it. Pes is generally hydrophilic but if the protein is sensitive then even the slight hydrophobicness can cause denaturing.

I was considering trying cobetter’s PVDF as they claim is even more hydrophilic and lower protein binding than their PES. Although I am not sure since I really need to stop buying stuff lol.

The only peps i actually filter are carnitine and glutathione (just too lazy lol).
I need new filters for them as I'm running out and was considering 0.1 PVDFs because the price difference between that and 0.22 is pretty insignificant and also because i have visible crap in my SSA Mtren oil that I cant get out with a .22um PTFE...which made me wonder if .22 is sufficient..

 

[readalot]

also because i have visible crap in my SSA Mtren oil that I cant get out with a .22um PTFE.

Anyone ever told you that you got some serious vision?

 

[Photon]

Anyone ever told you that you got some serious vision?

Its the boogieman in ma oils!

Post in thread 'Filtering finished oils'

Oct 19, 2025

Anyone seen something like this?
SSA MTREN5, Jano tested with 95% overdose.

It dissolves clear when i shake the vial but this cloudy stuff forms after 48 hours or so. Already filtered twice with a .22 PTFE at room temp.
I'm sourcing for .1 PTFE now.
It doesn't look like crashing to me..

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[Ghoul]

Would there be any benefit in going down to 0.1um?
Ive got .1um PES and recently just ordered PTFE.

The bacteria below .22um pore size aren’t gram negative (all are larger than .3um) and aren’t pathogenic to humans, which is why that size is the standard used for sterilization by pharma. .1um will remove those smaller bacteria along with some large virii, so there’s a slight benefit, but at the cost of slower filtration and slightly (<1%) more peptide loss.

 

[readalot]

Its the boogieman in ma oils!

Post in thread 'Filtering finished oils'

Oct 19, 2025

Anyone seen something like this?
SSA MTREN5, Jano tested with 95% overdose.

It dissolves clear when i shake the vial but this cloudy stuff forms after 48 hours or so. Already filtered twice with a .22 PTFE at room temp.
I'm sourcing for .1 PTFE now.
It doesn't look like crashing to me..

• Photon

You put it through 0.2 um PTFE. Heat or shaking gets rid of it?

Appears your oil is supersaturated and over time you get suspension with small particle size?

0.1 um won't touch it.

Dilute it.

 

[Photon]

You put it through 0.2 um PTFE. Heat or shaking gets rid of it?

Appears your oil is supersaturated and over time you get colloidal suspension?

0.1 um wont touch it.

Dilute it.

It's 9.5mg/ml only tho.
Shouldn't it be crashing instead of turning into a suspension?

 

[Ghoul]

Are you going to say I was correct too, or is that reserved only for you two lovebirds?



Source?

No failed endotoxin tests of peptide vials, unlike the high rate of bacteria contaminated vials.

But let’s say there is endotoxin. What’s your point?