Healing Pharma. Good or Bad?

[Wizbang]

They are not. I wouldn’t buy them though lol.

Get the feeling Healing Pharm is on the bad list. haha

 

[Photon]

Has anyone done a test on telmaheal? I’m interested in testing the 20mg tabs.

Testing for most medications start at 380$.
The likelihood of you seeing them being tested is very low.

I think I've only seen for Entresto, and that's not Healing Pharma

 

[Ghoul]

Get the feeling Healing Pharm is on the bad list. haha

They make almost 900 products. I've seen around 3 dozen tests, so admittedly a small sample. All tests have been good, except 2 Accufine results showing underdosed gelcaps, which I believe was the result of heat degradation since isotretinoin is particularly sensitive to temp.

Look at the Cilniheal blister pack. It and a number of other products from them say ".'Marketed by Healing Pharma" then the subcontracted manufacturer is listed. Look that up and it's usually a specialist in manufacturing that particular drug.

That's a lot of trouble to go through if you're in business to scam people over drugs that cost pennies per tab.

 

[Wizbang]

They make almost 900 products. I've seen around 3 dozen tests, so admittedly a small sample. All tests have been good, except 2 Accufine results showing underdosed gelcaps, which I believe was the result of heat degradation since isotretinoin is particularly sensitive to temp.

Look at the Cilniheal blister pack. It and a number of other products from them say ".'Marketed by Healing Pharma" then the subcontracted manufacturer is listed. Look that up and it's usually a specialist in manufacturing that particular drug.

That's a lot of trouble to go through if you're in business to scam people over drugs that cost pennies per tab.

thanks @Ghoul

 

[Deadpool99]

Get the feeling Healing Pharm is on the bad list. haha

They make almost 900 products. I've seen around 3 dozen tests, so admittedly a small sample. All tests have been good, except 2 Accufine results showing underdosed gelcaps, which I believe was the result of heat degradation since isotretinoin is particularly sensitive to temp.

Look at the Cilniheal blister pack. It and a number of other products from them say ".'Marketed by Healing Pharma" then the subcontracted manufacturer is listed. Look that up and it's usually a specialist in manufacturing that particular drug.

That's a lot of trouble to go through if you're in business to scam people over drugs that cost pennies per tab.

I’m also a skeptic at heart. A big one. But most people here rely on their Telmaheal and other BP meds. Also many reputable US vendors sell healing pharma as a pharma grade and trust their potency, so it seems the demand and efficacy is there.

I’m sure many here can probably testify for them.

 

[Lifting88]

Why not pay testing together?

 

[Deadpool99]

Why not pay testing together?

Tried and failed multiple times on multiple popular compounds.

 

[Sera]

Mankind pharma cilaheart arrived. Took 10mg and instant relief. I also grabbed some glenmark telmisartan 20mg.

At this point I would recommend steering clear of healing pharma products despite the tempting price. I was taking up to 40mg a day of their cilnidipine with minimal effect while waiting for these to arrive.

 

[Photon]

Mankind pharma cilaheart arrived. Took 10mg and instant relief. I also grabbed some glenmark telmisartan 20mg.

At this point I would recommend steering clear of healing pharma products despite the tempting price. I was taking up to 40mg a day of their cilnidipine with minimal effect while waiting for these to arrive.

Not sure if you've shared it before, but whats your HP cilni batch number?

 

[Sera]

Not sure if you've shared it before, but whats your HP cilni batch number?

KTC595A, I feel a little bit bad about saying to avoid it without any tests but also feel like it wouldn’t be that good to not share my experience. Everyone can just take my word as one data point.

 

[Photon]

KTC595A, I feel a little bit bad about saying to avoid it without any tests but also feel like it wouldn’t be that good to not share my experience. Everyone can just take my word as one data point.

On the contrary, voicing it out may result in it getting tested by those who bought 20 years worth of pills lol

 

[Sera]

On the contrary, voicing it out may result in it getting tested by those who bought 20 years worth of pills lol

Might just be worth people who have a large supply to test a different brand (cilaheart, cilacar) and see if they notice a difference. Would likely be cheaper than getting it tested.

 

[AllGoodThings]

Mankind pharma cilaheart arrived. Took 10mg and instant relief. I also grabbed some glenmark telmisartan 20mg.

At this point I would recommend steering clear of healing pharma products despite the tempting price. I was taking up to 40mg a day of their cilnidipine with minimal effect while waiting for these to arrive.

Might just be worth people who have a large supply to test a different brand (cilaheart, cilacar) and see if they notice a difference. Would likely be cheaper than getting it tested.

I have about 13 years worth of 20mg cilnidipine from healing pharma and a small supply from mankind pharma. I had been taking the healing pharma for months, and just today switched to mankind pharma. I have to say I have a lot of other medical issues going on at the moment, so my ability to give an accurate "feels" report may be significantly impaired. I will monitor by BP over the next few weeks and see if I notice any effect there. It has been high lately, despite 80mg telmi (US Rx) , 20mg cilnidipine (healing pharma) and 5mg nebivolol (US Rx). My issue with testing right now is that not only am I logistically not in a position to send anything to Jano, I'd also want to test 3 pills from different boxes, the cost of which would be $1140 plus shipping, FAR and away more than I paid for the 13 years worth. A group funded effort would make sense, but I guess that's been attempted and failed previously, unfortunately. I went ahead and emailed an order to PCT24X7 for a few years worth of the mankind version as I really don't want to be wondering about a med that's pretty important to my health.

 

[Wizbang]

I am starting to think this needs to be tested.

My other slightly related note is all the indian pharms/dropship seem to carry healing pharm, when I know of at least 10-15 brands of cilnidipine exist, there has to be something to it.

 

[Sera]

I’ll also continue to monitor whether blood pressure control is improved over the coming days as it builds up in my system.

 

[nullandvoid]

I had an inconsistent run with Healing Pharma and Accutane. I'm not sure if it was a manufacturing or heat-related degradation, but I really feel like I missed out on the intended benefits of a high dose run for what ended up being five months. It's not a comfortable medication to take, but it seemed that once I got into the 40mg capsules, the sides diminished. Unfortunately this was the last few months of the run, which is when I really needed it to be full dose. Healing Pharma may be good for many things, but after spending all that time and discomfort, at least the first three months, I just have too much distrust to use them again. Now when I source medications, I will avoid them and instead try to get medication from the larger manufacturers like Sun, Cipla, Intas, etc.

I was pretty disappointed. It's one thing to take a medication for a few weeks and realize it is under dosed, but to go through three solid uncomfortable months and reach the final phase of a high-dose course of Accutane and finally realize what you have on hand for those remaining months is underdosed or degraded, it just left me with a bad impression.

 

[Photon]

I had an inconsistent run with Healing Pharma and Accutane. I'm not sure if it was a manufacturing or heat-related degradation, but I really feel like I missed out on the intended benefits of a high dose run for what ended up being five months. It's not a comfortable medication to take, but it seemed that once I got into the 40mg capsules, the sides diminished. Unfortunately this was the last few months of the run, which is when I really needed it to be full dose. Healing Pharma may be good for many things, but after spending all that time and discomfort, at least the first three months, I just have too much distrust to use them again. Now when I source medications, I will avoid them and instead try to get medication from the larger manufacturers like Sun, Cipla, Intas, etc.

I was pretty disappointed. It's one thing to take a medication for a few weeks and realize it is under dosed, but to go through three solid uncomfortable months and reach the final phase of a high-dose course of Accutane and finally realize what you have on hand for those remaining months is underdosed or degraded, it just left me with a bad impression.

I ran expensive sun pharma sotret NF accutane and it was tested as under by quite a significant bit as well. I don't even recall what were the numbers at now.

 

[Wizbang]

I believe we need to rally the troops, if it is $380 to test a pill I think it is worth it, if a random pill tests fine we can at least say some of it is dosed correctly, if we're not satisfied we can then go all in for multiple pills for science. What do you all think?

 

[AllGoodThings]

I believe we need to rally the troops, if it is $380 to test a pill I think it is worth it, if a random pill tests fine we can at least say some of it is dosed correctly, if we're not satisfied we can then go all in for multiple pills for science. What do you all think?

I'm in a position to contribute $100 toward this, but we'd need to group this into lot numbers. I'll have to check, all of mine are the same, but I can't recall it at the moment.

 

[Wizbang]

I'm in a position to contribute $100 toward this, but we'd need to group this into lot numbers. I'll have to check, all of mine are the same, but I can't recall it at the moment.

I think we need the canary test of just one random to start, if that suddenly is out of wack then we can try to get various lot numbers and do an array.