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It's definitely weird and worth investigating before using it again. It could be something simple as it being colder when you last normalized the pressure and warmer now, but that's quite a bulge for just a few degrees of pressure differential. Contamination is the next biggest possibility, but like I mentioned earlier there's just not a lot of stuff that likes to eat MCT or gso, especially with those solvents on board. And DHB's not very prone to offgassing chemical reactions under normal circumstances.

@TurboJet

Also BB/BA content. With proper BA (bacteriostatic) then shouldn't be any overgrowth issue. Cool find.
Yeah very odd it shouldn't have any growth and it's been stored in a constant 70 F so there shouldn't be any pressure differential from that.
 
It’s always funny watching the same cycle repeat, people slowly start realizing how annoying someone actually is. At first, they’re the loudest ones defending him and calling @BamaCrazy “too harsh,” but give it time and boom, the mask slips. Turns out he’s just a boring know-it-all spamming the thread with nerd trivia that maybe 3% of the crowd actually cares about, throwing in random GIFs and jokes that miss harder than my first bulk. Not sure if it’s age or just pure personality, but damn… exhausting to witness.
 
Was there floaters and hair in primal gear?! If there was, I missed it in the chatter.

QSC foolery
Yeah, found it. KoreanGuy post #8,613 on Sept 30th.

If anyone on this forum doesn’t recognize this name, please look up his messages and develop your own opinion.

Most believe that he is just a scammer who badmouths vendors in order to get free gear.
 
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There are people accused of being shills, co-conspirators, etc. to further the promotion of this vendor. The reason would be clear, money.
Then there are people trying to do the opposite and demote this vendor. The reasons why could be keeping the vendor accountable, harm reduction, vendetta, anger etc. but could also be money.

Let's assume the best and say it is to keep the vendor accountable. What if the incessant pushing and questions drive the vendor to say I'm done answering your questions, I'll post my results when I have them, feel free to test my product and I'll even fully reimburse you if you do (this is essentially where we are at I believe).
So if you're quite literally told that your post will not be acknowledged, what do you expect to accomplish? At this point are you trying to turn people away from the vendor? Again one could infer that this is at the behest of a competing vendor. Even if you drive away a few potential customers your addition to the post count probably offsets that and even if not I don't it makes any noticeable impact on the vendor's income.
You can't control the actions of the vendor or other the people in this thread and that clearly makes some people (whom I assume are used to controlling the people in their own lives) incessantly angry.
Now if there is some rule where people can only post XYZ in a vendor thread then that is different but I haven't seen anyone say that.

I don't think the people here who are repeatedly asking the same questions to the vendor or accusing other of being shills are "working for someone else". I also don't think the people being accused of being shills are "working for someone else". I could very well be naïve in this regard because I haven't been around for 10 years (which is such a weird flex to me)...but it doesn't matter because I don't know the truth behind either side and I don't think anyone here will. I don't care one way or the other because I can't control it. Even if the top were blown off and there was some big reveal that people were collaborating, who cares? What would it change? Because...

If you bought something and had it tested you're good. What is your risk aversion? If you trust another member's testing, fine (I actually think that is a big part of what this place is about and should be about). If you trust the vendor's testing without cross validating, fine. If you buy completely untested product and don't care, fine. All individual decisions.

I'm all for harm reduction which is why I came here. I've fixed my lipids and blood pressure which is awesome. I've also picked up orals and some niche oils (looking at you DHB) which was not my original intent so maybe not so awesome haha?
But I will say that since I've been here I've quite enjoyed the tom foolery and shitposting and random topics. I know that some will argue it doesn't belong here but guess what, you can't control it. Some will argue the repeated vendor questions are too much but you can't control that either. With that being said I think we can have fun while also testing product and sharing info on how to improve each other's health.

There are people on here I like and people I don't like (the likes and don't likes exist on both sides for me) and I just want to say I'm thankful for this community no matter how batshit crazy some of you are...but also fuck you to some of you ;) and I mean that in the nicest way, don't ever change (or do change and massively improve your life and the lives around you).

Toodles, and I wish a PIP free weekend for all the homies and homegirls.
 
There are people accused of being shills, co-conspirators, etc. to further the promotion of this vendor. The reason would be clear, money.
Then there are people trying to do the opposite and demote this vendor. The reasons why could be keeping the vendor accountable, harm reduction, vendetta, anger etc. but could also be money.

Let's assume the best and say it is to keep the vendor accountable. What if the incessant pushing and questions drive the vendor to say I'm done answering your questions, I'll post my results when I have them, feel free to test my product and I'll even fully reimburse you if you do (this is essentially where we are at I believe).
So if you're quite literally told that your post will not be acknowledged, what do you expect to accomplish? At this point are you trying to turn people away from the vendor? Again one could infer that this is at the behest of a competing vendor. Even if you drive away a few potential customers your addition to the post count probably offsets that and even if not I don't it makes any noticeable impact on the vendor's income.
You can't control the actions of the vendor or other the people in this thread and that clearly makes some people (whom I assume are used to controlling the people in their own lives) incessantly angry.
Now if there is some rule where people can only post XYZ in a vendor thread then that is different but I haven't seen anyone say that.

I don't think the people here who are repeatedly asking the same questions to the vendor or accusing other of being shills are "working for someone else". I also don't think the people being accused of being shills are "working for someone else". I could very well be naïve in this regard because I haven't been around for 10 years (which is such a weird flex to me)...but it doesn't matter because I don't know the truth behind either side and I don't think anyone here will. I don't care one way or the other because I can't control it. Even if the top were blown off and there was some big reveal that people were collaborating, who cares? What would it change? Because...

If you bought something and had it tested you're good. What is your risk aversion? If you trust another member's testing, fine (I actually think that is a big part of what this place is about and should be about). If you trust the vendor's testing without cross validating, fine. If you buy completely untested product and don't care, fine. All individual decisions.

I'm all for harm reduction which is why I came here. I've fixed my lipids and blood pressure which is awesome. I've also picked up orals and some niche oils (looking at you DHB) which was not my original intent so maybe not so awesome haha?
But I will say that since I've been here I've quite enjoyed the tom foolery and shitposting and random topics. I know that some will argue it doesn't belong here but guess what, you can't control it. Some will argue the repeated vendor questions are too much but you can't control that either. With that being said I think we can have fun while also testing product and sharing info on how to improve each other's health.

There are people on here I like and people I don't like (the likes and don't likes exist on both sides for me) and I just want to say I'm thankful for this community no matter how batshit crazy some of you are...but also fuck you to some of you ;) and I mean that in the nicest way, don't ever change (or do change and massively improve your life and the lives around you).

Toodles, and I wish a PIP free weekend for all the homies and homegirls.
Well spoken. While I think 99% of people appreciate the dedication to harm reduction, I think crazily posting the same shit every single day in a rage does absolutely nothing. You think a vendor has shady practices? Move on to the next vendor. You have product you want to make sure is good? Get it tested and this vendor will reimburse you.

Primal literally just said they have accrued a shit ton of losses and yet still they’ve been the most generous vendor i’ve ever seen to not only loyal customers but to even new ones. At this point Primal has a customer base bigger than multiple vendors on Meso combined, which would be completely understandable if a thing or two slipped through the cracks. You don’t give a fuck or have any sense of understanding that someone can’t be perfect? Go to another vendor that has even more limited quantity and ridiculous minimum purchase requirements and stop your complaining.

Besides the point, nothing is stopping any of us from purchasing product here and getting it tested for a “gotchya” moment. You want one of those so badly? Go try and get one. (i sent out the most recent test cyp batch myself!)

I’ll go back to my Switzerland hole and be neutral now.
 
Already addressed this above. Take a look if you care to.

Passive, active, inadvertent group mind? Don't know.

Regardless, the results are obvious and easy to see here. Solution is simple.

How about an experiment? Let's set up a group party chat thread and see how far it goes. Oh yeah, someone tried that.

This is a source accountability thread.
I appreciate what you're doing here but I have never experienced gaslighters subdued by logic. I put them on ignore. You're probably intimidating them and causing them to act out of fear and confusion at this point
 
Yeah, found it. KoreanGuy post #8,613 on Sept 30th.

If anyone on this forum doesn’t recognize this name, please look up his messages and develop your own opinion.

Most believe that he is just a scammer who badmouths vendors in order to get free gear.
He is absolutely a scammer. I usually skip past his posts without reading them. Once he figured out he wasn't getting free gear, he moved on to a new sucker.
 
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