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[pipo]

They know we will fight over it at 1700 a kilo now its never going back to 350

Never said never. Oil went negative. Who believed that when it was over 100$. Alot can happen.

 

[readalot]

Yes you did. Maybe Janoshik can elaborate on this. Just in case we miss something. Maybe I should open a new thread about this case?

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Post in thread 'Odd results from GCMS and HPLC test on NPP sample'

Nov 1, 2025

GCMS cant detect impurities that dont volatilize at 300/350 deg C. So if your NPP is cut with fine sand or something other non volatile shit (sand is dumb example I know since that gets filtered out prior to hitting column but you get the idea), the GCMS test wont pick it up. GCMS meant to elegantly identify organics that vaporize similar to the AAS API.

Cool example where HPLC wins.

HPLC purity with jano is mg of API divided by mg of sample.

GCMS still very fucking useful tool.

Your supplier is cutting your raw with filler.

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[Detroitmonster]

For harm reduction Lukaholostin you should be the name of that supplier with the test so we know not to use them

 

[MrTexas2]

You mean had. Why you think Im back on the boards brother. We're all in the same boat now. Times about to get rough.

About to get...they've been rough for a long time. I used the same source for 5 years never any question about quality. Then 2025 happened.

 

[MrTexas2]

Does that say 80 cents for a kg for test? Wtf, i couldnt even imagine. Less than $5 a kg of tren, lmao that is just crazy. Im just hoping this shit smooths out somewhat, i dont expect to pay $1 a kg, but i hope we can get somewhere close to a year ago at least. I mean 5k+ for a kg of tren is expensive, this isnt cocaine for fucks sake. And primo they want 30k+, its just getting rediculous at this point

As pipo noted, that was price per gram. You could get 100 grams of Test c for $160. And for a small minimum shipping used to be free.

As noted, the good old days.

 

[pheno609]

As pipo noted, that was price per gram. You could get 100 grams of Test c for $160. And for a small minimum shipping used to be free.

As noted, the good old days.

Yeah im retarted, 80 cents for a kg. Lmao

 

[Sampei]

Look what was the price 10 years ago.
350$ for 1 kg of test is something more recently. Price now with all this shit that is going on is similar to 10 years ago and how was the income then.

Thread 'The Golden Age of Raws: Pricelists from 2015-2017'

Sep 28, 2025

Wanted to share some of the old supplier lists I have, back in the golden days of raws access.

Maxsourcechem

Compound                          |  10g   | 100g   | 500g   | 1kg
----------------------------------+--------+--------+--------+--------
Testosterone Enanthate            | $2.00  | $1.60  | $1.00  | $0.80
Testosterone Propionate           | $1.80  | $1.50  | $0.90  |     
Testosterone Cypionate            | $2.00  | $1.60  | $1.00  |     
Testosterone Phenylprop.          | $2.10  | $1.80  | $1.10  |     
Sustanon 250                      | $2.50  | $2.30  | $1.40  |...

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Does prices are not far off from today just few hundreds less or the same.

Test C and D can still be get for 1000/1200 for example.

Test P 750/850

 

[pheno609]

Does prices are not far off from today just few hundreds less or the same.

Test C and D can still be get for 1000/1200 for example.

Test P 750/850

Test c is 900/kg from AASraw right now, which is supposed to be avaiable soon. Plus shipping though so 980

 

[Thorshammer]

always and GCMS is a great tool but different pu

About to get...they've been rough for a long time. I used the same source for 5 years never any question about quality. Then 2025 happened.

I stocked up good end of last year when things started getting weird. And got lucky with an Indian source that had good quality early this year. Im just starting to go into panick mode now. I just ran out of mast E and primo about 2 months ago. My go to sources still have stuff but its extremely limited and sells out in days.

 

[Thorshammer]

Just food for thought. This doesn't apply to the NPP or Dbol in this thread. But if ypur testing something like Oxymetholone or Tadalafil that are hygroscopic and not storing it properly that will throw your test results. If im sending a hygroscopic sample for analysis I leave it in a desicator over night .

 

[MrTexas2]

I stocked up good end of last year when things started getting weird. And got lucky with an Indian source that had good quality early this year. Im just starting to go into panick mode now. I just ran out of mast E and primo about 2 months ago. My go to sources still have stuff but its extremely limited and sells out in days.

I have 2 bottles of deca left and one of Primo. I did a buddy a favor (he was prepping for a show) and let him have 2 bottles of primo for what it cost last year. He works for the NPC and his connection wanted to charge him $130 a pop for primo (which is todays price). I am OK on test but I have lab rats complaining of minor injuries so the NPP is just to tide me over until deca prices become more sane.

Best I saw recently was $500 for 100 grams of deca. I just paid $320 plus $80 shipping for 100 grams of test undecanoate. I need it for myself (I only inject test once a week...to need a boost from the TU powder on days 6). I am also using the TU to fight menopause in the wife. Injectable TU has a half life of forever, but only 8 hours if you take it orally as powder.

 

[Coach Michaelman]

Recently, I’ve been using a formula made with testosterone phenylpropionate and testosterone isocaproate from an ASSRAW source — 1/3 isocaproate and 2/3 phenylpropionate for a concentration of 250 mg/ml. The PIP is very strong, and the injection site has been red and inflamed for three days. The problem is that three of us have tested it and all experienced the same issue.
We thought the problem might be the concentration, so we reduced the mix to 200 mg/ml. However, there’s still severe PIP.
We’re starting to question the “quality” of the raw material. What do you think could be the cause? The phenylpropionate concentration at nearly 150 mg/ml being too high? The excipients?
It reminds me of the old days when testosterone enanthate used to cause PIP.

 

[mikeh1998]

anyone gotten a quote from them for stanozolol (winstrol) / oxandrolone (anavar) recently

 

[pheno609]

Best I saw recently was $500 for 100 grams of deca.

WWB has deca raws for 400 i think from the CN warehouse, 450 with shipping. But they do not test their raws, so purity would be the main concern. I have not dealt with them before, so i am not sure what they would do to compensate people for low quality. But it seems like they consistently provide oils that are good. All blind test come back good, i havent seen any instances where people have complained about their quality. Im holding off on their raws though until there is more testing just to be safe. I dont want to get stuck with shit raws and no compensation

 

[007R]

Recently, I’ve been using a formula made with testosterone phenylpropionate and testosterone isocaproate from an ASSRAW source — 1/3 isocaproate and 2/3 phenylpropionate for a concentration of 250 mg/ml. The PIP is very strong, and the injection site has been red and inflamed for three days. The problem is that three of us have tested it and all experienced the same issue.
We thought the problem might be the concentration, so we reduced the mix to 200 mg/ml. However, there’s still severe PIP.
We’re starting to question the “quality” of the raw material. What do you think could be the cause? The phenylpropionate concentration at nearly 150 mg/ml being too high? The excipients?
It reminds me of the old days when testosterone enanthate used to cause PIP.

Isocaproate is said to often cause PIP. By the way, we know each other from another forum. I'll message you on Telegram.

 

[IndividualMan]

Isocaproate is said to often cause PIP. By the way, we know each other from another forum. I'll message you on Telegram.

Recently, I’ve been using a formula made with testosterone phenylpropionate and testosterone isocaproate from an ASSRAW source — 1/3 isocaproate and 2/3 phenylpropionate for a concentration of 250 mg/ml. The PIP is very strong, and the injection site has been red and inflamed for three days. The problem is that three of us have tested it and all experienced the same issue.
We thought the problem might be the concentration, so we reduced the mix to 200 mg/ml. However, there’s still severe PIP.
We’re starting to question the “quality” of the raw material. What do you think could be the cause? The phenylpropionate concentration at nearly 150 mg/ml being too high? The excipients?
It reminds me of the old days when testosterone enanthate used to cause PIP.

Isocap usually starts to sting a bit around 400mg/ml. i would guess the 165mg Phenylprop are causing the PIP, as TPP is known to cause PIP at concentrations higher than 100mg/ml.
Isocap should not be the problem, TPP concentration is definitely too high.
maybe go for a 300mg Isocap 75mg Phenylprop mix, should be far better from a PIP standpoint.

 

[AASraw]

Testosterone cypionate/ test cyp powder (CAS 58-20-8) is now available for pre-ordering.

 

[Thatguyfromoverthere]

Testosterone cypionate/ test cyp powder (CAS 58-20-8) is now available for pre-ordering.

That’s good news. When will it actually be available to ship?

 

[MrTexas2]

That’s good news. When will it actually be available to ship?

I would also ask, when will we see some labs?

 

[Luka.Halotestin]

I would also ask, when will we see some labs?

It is 99%. Trust me, dear.