Beligas fake dhb blood test

[qwe17606552]

Hey, I'm from China. Since English isn't my first language, I'm posting on the forum using translation software. I hope to get some help from the knowledgeable folks here. I'm a post-finasteride syndrome patient. After listening to Ryan Russo's YouTube videos, I started using DHB in August of this year, without a testosterone base. For the first two months, I used 100mg of EOD with no significant side effects and actually felt better. In mid-September, I switched to a different source (Beligas) and noticed some hot flashes and headaches after the injections, but I didn't think much of it at the time because it was a reputable brand. In October, I started increasing the dose, trying 200mg of ED, and eventually injecting 1.2g over the course of a week. I then developed a severe lack of libido and erectile dysfunction, worse than during my PFS period.
I had my blood tested, and the initial ELICA assay showed spikes in testosterone and estradiol. I then had an LC-MS/MS test, but the results remained unchanged. At this point I realized the DHB might be fake. I ran it through a friend's lab to test it for testosterone/drostanolone/boldenone/primobolan. The results showed it was 100ng/ml of primebolan. However, this still doesn't explain the spike in estrogen in my blood test. What do you forum friends think about this? (I know it's stupid to run an ASS without a testosterone test, but please don't judge me.)

 

[qwe17606552]

I also have a guess that it is a combination of trenbolone and primobolan,but the lab doesn't have a Trenbolone comparison product. which might explain the surge in prolactin and estrogen. Has anyone used primobolan and testosterone and seen a surge in estrogen in their blood report?

 

[ChemBB]

Trenbolone may cause Estradiol to show high on ELISA, but not on sensitive LC-MS/MS

Only way that Estradiol can be increased is via aromatizing androgen.

This is very strange. Did the lab check for all esters of Testosterone? Could be an unusual ester like Decanoate, Isocaproate?

 

[qwe17606552]

Trenbolone may cause Estradiol to show high on ELISA, but not on sensitive LC-MS/MS

Only way that Estradiol can be increased is via aromatizing androgen.

This is very strange. Did the lab check for all esters of Testosterone? Could be an unusual ester like Decanoate, Isocaproate?

It seems only propionic acid was tested.

 

[ChemBB]

It seems only propionic acid was tested.

Ask them to check for the most common esters -- Enanthate, Cypionate, Phenylpropionate, etc

My guess is it is some ester of testosterone they did not test for

 

[qwe17606552]

Even with an insensitive test, metenolone shouldn't cause a false increase in estrogen, right? I'm worried that China's testing technology is too outdated and might produce inaccuracies.

Ask them to check for the most common esters -- Enanthate, Cypionate, Phenylpropionate, etc

My guess is it is some ester of testosterone they did not test for

 

[qwe17606552]

Ask them to check for the most common esters -- Enanthate, Cypionate, Phenylpropionate, etc

My guess is it is some ester of testosterone they did not test for

Ask them to check for the most common esters -- Enanthate, Cypionate, Phenylpropionate, etc

My guess is it is some ester of testosterone they did not test for

Furthermore, my estrone levels are perfectly normal, meaning that aromatase appears to be unaffected.

 

[Thorshammer]

Its possible the lab mistaked DHB for primoboloan they would have very similar absorbance and also likely dont have a calibration curve for DHB as its an uncommon steroid. Also it makes very little sense for a lab to fake DHB with a steroid that cost 4 times as much. Also contrary to popular belief other steroids can show up as test in bloodwork its usually at a lower ratio to dose. Ive seen it in myself on a deck only cycle that was my deca that the raws were tested. And in female clients with primo and mast prop .

 

[qwe17606552]

Its possible the lab mistaked DHB for primoboloan they would have very similar absorbance and also likely dont have a calibration curve for DHB as its an uncommon steroid. Also it makes very little sense for a lab to fake DHB with a steroid that cost 4 times as much. Also contrary to popular belief other steroids can show up as test in bloodwork its usually at a lower ratio to dose. Ive seen it in myself on a deck only cycle that was my deca that the raws were tested. And in female clients with primo and mast prop .

Wow, this forum is full of talented people. I've searched other forums too, and no one has ever mentioned this to me. Your guess is very likely accurate.

 

[qwe17606552]

Its possible the lab mistaked DHB for primoboloan they would have very similar absorbance and also likely dont have a calibration curve for DHB as its an uncommon steroid. Also it makes very little sense for a lab to fake DHB with a steroid that cost 4 times as much. Also contrary to popular belief other steroids can show up as test in bloodwork its usually at a lower ratio to dose. Ive seen it in myself on a deck only cycle that was my deca that the raws were tested. And in female clients with primo and mast prop .

Bro, what are your thoughts on estrogen?

 

[cousinmuscles]

I question whether there was any DHB present. You said you got up to 200mg ED. From every person I have heard using it, everyone says the post injection pain from DHB is unbearable, regardless of brand.

 

[Thorshammer]

I question whether there was any DHB present. You said you got up to 200mg ED. From every person I have heard using it, everyone says the post injection pain from DHB is unbearable, regardless of brand.

Thats also not completely true . I managed to get it painless for 60% of people at 100 mg and minor irritation for the rest but it did take some experimenting.

 

[qwe17606552]

Yes, but I don't have any pip, so I suspect it's fake. And one strange thing is janoshik recently tested a bottle of beligas dhb, and it was legit (a foreign friend of mine sent it for a blind test).

I question whether there was any DHB present. You said you got up to 200mg ED. From every person I have heard using it, everyone says the post injection pain from DHB is unbearable, regardless of brand.

 

[Thorshammer]

Yes, but I don't have any pip, so I suspect it's fake. And one strange thing is janoshik recently tested a bottle of beligas dhb, and it was legit (a foreign friend of mine sent it for a blind test).

Get it tested

 

[IndividualMan]

Even with an insensitive test, metenolone shouldn't cause a false increase in estrogen, right? I'm worried that China's testing technology is too outdated and might produce inaccuracies.

Yeah, it is possible that the testing lab you sent it to is lacking proper reference materials or properly calibrated equipment.

I do not know if it is possible, but i would definitely love to see a jano report (do not forget the 5$ add on for full report).

 

[qwe17606552]

Do you know which steroids can cause a false increase in estradiol levels in blood tests?

Get it tested

 

[qwe17606552]

是的，有可能你送检的实验室缺乏合适的参考材料或经过适当校准的设备。

我不知道是否可行，但我非常希望看到一份 Jano 报告（别忘了完整报告需要额外支付 5 美元）。

It's difficult to get through customs, but I'll try my best.

 

[Thorshammer]

Well there is two mechanisms for that . 1 is nandralone and trenbalone though only on certain types of blood tests. But also through estrogen conversion.

 

[IndividualMan]

Tren usually detects

Do you know which steroids can cause a false increase in estradiol levels in blood tests?

as Estradiol in blood tests due to similar structure, assuming you got standard E2 (high sensitivity E2 does not detect tren as e2)

 

[Thorshammer]

Its completely normal to have multiple peaks on a chromatogram when your testing a solution with multiple substances with different absorbance bands at different times through the mobile phase. They only marked the peak for the target analyte. The other peak was 1 of the ingredients in the drug or possibly a solvent they used in the dilution. It wasn't labeled or mentioned to you because the analytical chemist performing the test was aware and it was irrelevant