Castor Oil to reduce PIP from DHB?

[nutcase6174]

So DHB has got a bite, no denying that. But its always brewed with MCT oil. Based on what i've read from here and other forums, it seems like the cause is that it crystalizes in the muscle as the carrier oil is absorbed, and the crystals just sit there for a while causing irritation until they are absorbed.

Since castor oil takes a very long time for it to be absorbed, theoretically, would using castor oil give the DHB enough time to be absorbed to avoid the rapid crystilization? That way, the DHB won't be crystalized since most of it will be absorbed before the oil is, leaving us without the PIP?

Has anyone tried something of the sort? I can't seem to find anyone experimenting with this.

 

[adrenalytic]

So DHB has got a bite, no denying that. But its always brewed with MCT oil. Based on what i've read from here and other forums, it seems like the cause is that it crystalizes in the muscle as the carrier oil is absorbed, and the crystals just sit there for a while causing irritation until they are absorbed.

Since castor oil takes a very long time for it to be absorbed, theoretically, would using castor oil give the DHB enough time to be absorbed to avoid the rapid crystilization? That way, the DHB won't be crystalized since most of it will be absorbed before the oil is, leaving us without the PIP?

Has anyone tried something of the sort? I can't seem to find anyone experimenting with this.

Just add more MCT oil. The DHB falls out of suspension because the BB and BA disperse throughout the body faster than the DHB can be absorbed. Someone posted a good explanation of this recently (search for blends and PIP) but basically it was brewed to absolute capacity of the oil volume so there's no buffer room when the BB/BA start to disperse. Adding more oil solves this.

You might get better answers in the homebrew section.

 

[cbrod244]

Where is the DHB from? Mine is mct oil and it is smooth.
how much are you taking? Did you mix it with your test or did you inject dhb only?

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

I have found that DHB at about 70ish mg is a good concentration, at least for me, that will allow minimal to zero PIP once your body adjusts to regular use.

At this concentration, I have found that GSO is a good option for carrier oil.

YMMV

 

[nutcase6174]

Just add more MCT oil. The DHB falls out of suspension because the BB and BA disperse throughout the body faster than the DHB can be absorbed. Someone posted a good explanation of this recently (search for blends and PIP) but basically it was brewed to absolute capacity of the oil volume so there's no buffer room when the BB/BA start to disperse. Adding more oil solves this.

You might get better answers in the homebrew section.

i do know that some people do that and/or mix with other lower compounds to reduce PIP, but then you end up with a higher volume so it limits how much DHB you can get in per site

 

[nutcase6174]

Where is the DHB from? Mine is mct oil and it is smooth.
how much are you taking? Did you mix it with your test or did you inject dhb only?

This is more of a hypothetical to avoid having to cut with other compounds or extra oil, maintaining a high concentration so you can get higher doses in without having to split sites and hit the same ones multiple times per week.

 

[adrenalytic]

i do know that some people do that and/or mix with other lower compounds to reduce PIP, but then you end up with a higher volume so it limits how much DHB you can get in per site

I run 8 mLs of DHB @ 50mg/mL pinning daily (400mg/wk) and I don't run out of sites. How much are you trying to pin?

 

[Photon]

So DHB has got a bite, no denying that. But its always brewed with MCT oil. Based on what i've read from here and other forums, it seems like the cause is that it crystalizes in the muscle as the carrier oil is absorbed, and the crystals just sit there for a while causing irritation until they are absorbed.

Since castor oil takes a very long time for it to be absorbed, theoretically, would using castor oil give the DHB enough time to be absorbed to avoid the rapid crystilization? That way, the DHB won't be crystalized since most of it will be absorbed before the oil is, leaving us without the PIP?

Has anyone tried something of the sort? I can't seem to find anyone experimenting with this.

Search harder.
120mg/ml is doable in castor w/o PIP.
Someone does have it, sadly not in US.

 

[nutcase6174]

I run 8 mLs of DHB @ 50mg/mL pinning daily (400mg/wk) and I don't run out of sites. How much are you trying to pin?

well usually when i run DHB i’ll run trest 25-50mg/day so total that’ll be 1mL-1.5mL daily.

That really limits me for what sites I can pin since the only sites I’ve had that tolerate DHB at all (even cut with other oils down to a concentration of 33mg/mL) are my delts and posterior glutes.

(unless it’s a day I also pin some other long esther as well, in which case it’ll be higher)

 

[adrenalytic]

well usually when i run DHB i’ll run trest 25-50mg/day so total that’ll be 1mL-1.5mL daily.

That really limits me for what sites I can pin since the only sites I’ve had that tolerate DHB at all (even cut with other oils down to a concentration of 33mg/mL) are my delts and posterior glutes.

(unless it’s a day I also pin some other long esther as well, in which case it’ll be higher)

Sounds like maybe DHB just isn't for you.

 

[nutcase6174]

Sounds like maybe DHB just isn't for you.

Oh no I put up with it. I fucking love DHB. its literally the only issue i have with it, but other than that its my third favorite compound.

just curious on ways to make it more tolerable.

 

[Laxman3221]

Mix it with EQ! I'm running a mix of testP, testE, EQ and DHB. about 1.6 ml EOD. No pip.

And i just went to a vial of the UGL that gave me a debilitating bout of PIP... all good.

and I mixed that DHB with extra oil.

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

What’s with the recent hype with dhb just curious

 

[Photon]

What’s with the recent hype with dhb just curious

Primo too expensive.
Touted as a stronger primo.
Low supply of raws, makes it "rare" and exotic.

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

Primo too expensive.
Touted as a stronger primo.
Low supply of raws, makes it "rare" and exotic.

Interested but why not just eq at that point

 

[adrenalytic]

Interested but why not just eq at that point

It's twice as anabolic as test. Seems reason enough for me.

 

[adrenalytic]

just curious on ways to make it more tolerable.

Your best bet is to just play with dilution and prime other muscles for injection. Hell, knock it down to 20 mg/mL and send it, see how you react. Titrate as needed.

I have 8 sites between VL, VG, Lats and Glutes that used to give me issues with DHB but since diluting and repeated injections I no longer get PIP even a little.

 

[LGOP528]

I made mine at 100mg/mL 50/50 Mct oil and castor oil. 0 pip.