dick_starbuck
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DHB is absolutely not a fast acting eq. It is a completely different compounds that yields a different look, and feel.
If anything DHB should be compared to a significantly stronger primobolan.
MESO-Rx
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Arail Pharmaceuticals - US Domestic
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If anything DHB should be compared to a significantly stronger primobolan.
Photon
Member
What's the highest you've done a week?
AllGoodThings
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dick_starbuck
Member
Probably 350mg a week. Its hard to use alot of because the mg/ml and PIP constraints.
At 350mg weekly though its way stronger than primo at double the dose IMO
TanFishMan
Member
Tne restock eta?
Arail
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We're about 2-3 weeks out on more TNE.
bigdaddyandfriends
Member
I switched from 210mg/wk primo to 105mg/wk DHB back in Sept. My strength increased significantly within 2-3 weeks after being at a plateau for ages, and I leaned up further. Neither seems useful for E2 control in me, as my aromasin requirement stayed about the same. I dose test fairly low, but do use some of this source's (excellent) TNE as preworkout and libido booster a few days a week, and also use a little MENT, so combined have a decent amount of estrogenicity available.
I have noticed no other effects from DHB - just improved body composition and more strength. Mine is 100mg/ml from a good source (from ASF, not Meso); it has never crashed and is painless. Ive basically tried everything now, and would have to say for me DHB is the most pure anabolic with the fewest collateral effects at least at the very low dose I'm using (I'm 57yo so don't push high mg, prefer to use low mg of more potent compounds).
I posted elsewhere that the 1-methyl group added to DHB to make primobolan significantly attenuates its potency; the compounds are otherwise chemically identical; primobolan is not a DHT derivative, it is a DHB derivative, as is stenbolone (2-methylated as with masteron but with acetate ester). I was very much wanting to try that, but have been told raws have been unavailable for many years. I have some injectable m-sten and it makes a great preworkout, but obviously not something to cycle and grow on.
Primo's 1-methylation may have major effect on aromatase activity in some people, although not me. All the DHT/DHB derivatives have some intrinsic anti-estrogenic effect via diminished ER⍺ transcriptional activity which is why they were (and still are outside USA) used medically as treatments for metastatic ER+ breast cancer. Likely those of us that tolerate higher E2 levels also have higher DHT levels... with lower DHT levels (which can be genetic, those using only HRT/TRT test, or dosing or 5⍺R inhibitors), estrogen over reference range ie >30 tends to cause issues - often with libido/EQ first, then water retention, gyno, acne, mood disorders, anxiety, etc. Those who can run high dose test w/o AI probably have saturation kinetics that favor DHT over estradiol production.
Oldhand
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@bigdaddyandfriends
Very interesting post. I’m happy to see the lack of sides for you on DHB. I’ve only taken it once for six weeks. After seeing so much positive feedback I am planning on trying it again. Maybe for 10-12 weeks this time.
It’s definitely an oddball compound. EQ is the parent compound but studies show DHB does not have an AI effect, yet some peoples labs suggests it does.
Very interesting post. I’m happy to see the lack of sides for you on DHB. I’ve only taken it once for six weeks. After seeing so much positive feedback I am planning on trying it again. Maybe for 10-12 weeks this time.
It’s definitely an oddball compound. EQ is the parent compound but studies show DHB does not have an AI effect, yet some peoples labs suggests it does.
Whistles77
Member
DHB talk in @Arail thread has definitely got my ears pricked up. Is something coming?
Oldhand
Member
I think the DHB talk is downstream from some TNE questions.
ALTHOUGH, I would love to try anything Arail has in the shop. If DHB ended up there that would be awesome.
AllGoodThings
Member
Any chance the concentration will be going up any? 75mg/ml is rumored to be easily doable without guaiacol, and can even hold pretty well.
This would be awesome if they can pull it off, but I doubt it. My 50mg/ml crashes quite often and I have to warm my vials up at least 4 times a week.
AllGoodThings
Member
I believe @Photon knows some secrets about making this work
Photon
Member
Nothing special really, just more solvents.
2/60 TNE80
4/60 TNE100
There's another US dom vendor working on TNE75 now. Either way I hope we see something closer to 100 soon
Oldhand
Member
Same. I really need to find a way to have a secure/locked warming area.
Diaper wipe warmers work great for this. The lowest setting on them usually keeps them from crashing. They are pretty cheap on Amazon.
Nixonnow99
Banned
Do you have one and not use it? Your post earlier said you have to warm up your vials 4 times a week.
AllGoodThings
Member
A wipe warmer in a gun safe that has a power outlet/outlets that are typically used to install internal lighting would work.
I purchased it a few days ago and it has worked for me. Before that I used a mug warmer to deal with crashed vials, which is not considered a permanent solution since most of them have an auto shut off feature.
Oldhand
Member
All good ideas. Something will work out.
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