Topicals? (non alcohol base)

[nilescrypt]

Sorry if this is absolutely ridiculous. obligatory fyi: i’m a tranny (ftm).

Has anyone had success brewing non alcohol based topicals? I’m not a science guy so please forgive me.

I had some success using an alcohol based recipe off the estradiol subreddit with test e. i was using it to help stimulate bottom growth, which obviously burned with an alcohol based gel…
now my questions are:
-If DHT is what stimulates bottom growth, instead of using test, could i use tren? or is the molecule too fat to go through skin? i’m intrigued by tren on the sole basis that it doesn’t aromatize & its 5x more masculinizing than test.
-i found a source that states using 10% dmso would work for a topical test cream, but i’ve seen other sources saying DMSO only really works if it’s at least 25%. thoughts?
-If the recipe i saw for test cream called to make it 150mg/ml, what would i want to make the dose if i subbed it for DHT? or tren?

 

[anon55]

Sorry if this is absolutely ridiculous. obligatory fyi: i’m a tranny (ftm).

Has anyone had success brewing non alcohol based topicals? I’m not a science guy so please forgive me.

I had some success using an alcohol based recipe off the estradiol subreddit with test e. i was using it to help stimulate bottom growth, which obviously burned with an alcohol based gel…
now my questions are:
-If DHT is what stimulates bottom growth, instead of using test, could i use tren? or is the molecule too fat to go through skin? i’m intrigued by tren on the sole basis that it doesn’t aromatize & its 5x more masculinizing than test.
-i found a source that states using 10% dmso would work for a topical test cream, but i’ve seen other sources saying DMSO only really works if it’s at least 25%. thoughts?
-If the recipe i saw for test cream called to make it 150mg/ml, what would i want to make the dose if i subbed it for DHT? or tren?

Why not just inject?

 

[bigbeancat]

Why not just inject?

While injecting does give overall masculization effects, including bottom growth the goal is to provide more dht directly to the genitals to try and promote more growth.
Dht is one of the main things for male sexual development during puberty. Test converterts to dht but not all of test does.

So to get the full potential dht is wanted.

 

[Rand]

Sorry if this is absolutely ridiculous. obligatory fyi: i’m a tranny (ftm).

I thought tranny was male to female

You are making topical for male friend?

 

[Zebedee]

I had some success using an alcohol based recipe off the estradiol subreddit with test e. i was using it to help stimulate bottom growth,

This reads as if you’re trying to grow your glutes. There’s absolutely no need to be so coy with your language here, because you really need to avoid any confusion or misunderstanding by those offering you input.

 

[bigbeancat]

I thought tranny was male to female

You are making topical for male friend?

Tranny is used a lot for male to female people is just anyone transitioning to the other gender. Ftm is female to male so op tryna get testosterone and shit. The Non alcohol based gels is to put on the clit to make it bigger without the alcohol sting

 

[bigbeancat]

This reads as if you’re trying to grow your glutes. There’s absolutely no need to be so coy with your language here, because you really need to avoid any confusion or misunderstanding by those offering you input.

Not really being coy. Its just the normal name for changes in genetalia within that community. Say bottom growth around trans people and no one would ever think glutes

 

[BigDadd7]

Regular injections of test will grow your clit significantly. Endless female bodybuilders can tell you that. Maybe even a couple of inches. No amount of test will grow it to the size of a penis.

Your username is really awesome given this info. Kudos.

 

[IndividualMan]

Regular Injections work better than any topicals.
start with 100mg/week split over 2 injection every 3-4 days, then up it to 150, then to 200.

200mg of test/week is enough to actually transition you to a man in a timely manner, around 2-4 years. more is not necesarily better, but quick 12-18 week bursts of higher dosages (300-450mg) will help you with adding extra muscle mass (if a strong masculine frame is a thing you feel you are missing)

for beard growth, take minoxidil at tablets. also helps with hairloss without blocking DHT conversion. after reaching a satisfying degree of masculinisation you can take finasteride (if you want to avoid balding long term)


IF you want maximum bottom growth, just take test for longer. DHT usually only gives sort of temporary swelling more than anything

Unless you have bottom surgery coming up, you got time.

Sorry if this is absolutely ridiculous. obligatory fyi: i’m a tranny (ftm).

Has anyone had success brewing non alcohol based topicals? I’m not a science guy so please forgive me.

I had some success using an alcohol based recipe off the estradiol subreddit with test e. i was using it to help stimulate bottom growth, which obviously burned with an alcohol based gel…
now my questions are:
-If DHT is what stimulates bottom growth, instead of using test, could i use tren? or is the molecule too fat to go through skin? i’m intrigued by tren on the sole basis that it doesn’t aromatize & its 5x more masculinizing than test.
-i found a source that states using 10% dmso would work for a topical test cream, but i’ve seen other sources saying DMSO only really works if it’s at least 25%. thoughts?
-If the recipe i saw for test cream called to make it 150mg/ml, what would i want to make the dose if i subbed it for DHT? or tren?

now to your questions. Dont fucking touch tren. You are in a mentally vulnerable spot right now (transitioning can be stressful and induce doubts, mess with self perception etc.), and trens neurotoxicity can fuck you up for life. It is also highly progestogenic, which can cause enlarging of breast tissue. not ideal in your case.
The molecule itself can pass through the skin, but you cannot mentally handle tren.

DHT is sparsely avaliable as powder currently, and you could use it in a gel of:
70% DMSO
2% Stanolone (DHT)
26. something% Distilled water
1% alcohol (needed aspreservative, you dont want it to mold. does not burn too badly/at all)

the last 0.something percent are:
Carbomer (for it to turn into a gel)
acid (to adjust PH and properly congeal the gel)


If you touch extra stuff, make sure you are taking care of your health. for example, take antioxidants and TUDCA if you sprinkle in some orals if you want a preview of how you will look with more muscle mass/strength.

also get your hands on some exemestane AKA aromasin to lower the conversion of test to E2. you want your E2 to be around 30-50.

 

[bigbeancat]

Regular injections of test will grow your clit significantly. Endless female bodybuilders can tell you that. Maybe even a couple of inches. No amount of test will grow it to the size of a penis.

Your username is really awesome given this info. Kudos.

Lmao. I didn't even think about that. I chose the name cuz my cat looks like a bean.

Yes, testosterone does increase clit size, as well as providing other masculizing effects, but apply certain hormones directly to the clit can kinds "focus" growth there.

There is, for example, a community of women who seek to enlarge their clit (sime because they like big clits, others because they have no sensitivit in thejr clits) without the other masculizing affects of enjected testosterone. A topical testosterone cream is often used so they can more easily control results and toe the line between enlarging their clit and getting unwanted masculization like voice and hair loss.

It is well known by all member that testosterone cannot grow a clit to the size of a penis. (Bar some intersex people who can grow it to the size of a micro penis.) But there are certain surgeries that will change clit to a penis (albiet micro size) and the larger the clit is the more successful the surgery.

Also, some people just like the feeling of having a large clit

 

[Zebedee]

Not really being coy. Its just the normal name for changes in genetalia within that community. Say bottom growth around trans people and no one would ever think glutes

Ah ok. Obviously I wasn’t aware of that & the vast majority of other members won’t be though, so looking ahead it’s probably in your best interest to avoid trans community specific terms.

 

[Photon]

I did not read this thread but if anyone is looking for transdermal base you can consider specializedrx. I have played with their other products, tho not their transdermal bases.

 

[Rand]

Tranny is used a lot for male to female people is just anyone transitioning to the other gender. Ftm is female to male so op tryna get testosterone and shit. The Non alcohol based gels is to put on the clit to make it bigger without the alcohol sting

In that case, just inject.

No one has breakthrough the big penis growth frontier yet

A transplant from donor would be better

 

[nilescrypt]

I thought tranny was male to female

You are making topical for male friend?

lolol i thought it was for any trans, im female to male

 

[nilescrypt]

In that case, just inject.

No one has breakthrough the big penis growth frontier yet

A transplant from donor would be better

some doctors prescribe a compounded dht cream for clit application. was just wondering if i could replicate at home using what i have

 

[nilescrypt]

Ah ok. Obviously I wasn’t aware of that & the vast majority of other members won’t be though, so looking ahead it’s probably in your best interest to avoid trans community specific terms.

yeah didn’t realize people wouldn’t know what i was talking about.

 

[IndividualMan]

some doctors prescribe a compounded dht cream for clit application. was just wondering if i could replicate at home using what i have

if you got dht raws at home you can go for it bro.
just hold off on the tren for now

 

[Rand]

some doctors prescribe a compounded dht cream for clit application. was just wondering if i could replicate at home using what i have

Of course you can
I have the pharma synthesis method book

I bet the formulation method book is lying around in some university server

I found mine using google index intitle like, 15 years ago

 

[bigbeancat]

Thread 'how to make transdermal testosterone?'

Apr 20, 2020

Anyone know how to make an androgel alternative? What do I need to mix testosterone with to make it absorb though the skin? maybe some alcohol?

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• Forum: Steroid Homebrew

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Do check out this thread about how to make gels and stuff. There is talk about dht and min/max amounts