On HGH and I only have access to Metformin, not XR, when should I take it?

If you’re as lean as you claim you likely won’t need much if any bg support at 4iu. With reta and berberine on board I wouldn’t take metformin, you likely won’t need it. The people you’re reading about with bg issues at 4iu aren’t taking Reta. Drinking a gallon of water, taking collagen peptides, and maybe sprinkle some Ala or r-Ala on there will get you more from your hgh with less worry.
 
If you’re as lean as you claim you likely won’t need much if any bg support at 4iu. With reta and berberine on board I wouldn’t take metformin, you likely won’t need it. The people you’re reading about with bg issues at 4iu aren’t taking Reta. Drinking a gallon of water, taking collagen peptides, and maybe sprinkle some Ala or r-Ala on there will get you more from your hgh with less worry.
DEXA scan was last week and showed 12.2%.

My dosage of Reta is pretty low and I've read mixed reports as if it's effective at this level, but my glucose meter will be here in a few days so I'll know then. I can't do any higher because I get allodynia and body aches. Also I'm only taking 500mg of berberine which I know is on the low side too.

The other factor is I'm considering going to 6IUs during my upcoming 500mg/week T blast (just cruising on 180mg right now). Probably titrate up to 5 for a bit then hit 6. At 6IU I'm more worried about BG issues so just kind of prepping for that.

R-ALA is another one I'm considering, was reading up on that earlier today actually.
 
DEXA scan was last week and showed 12.2%.

My dosage of Reta is pretty low and I've read mixed reports as if it's effective at this level, but my glucose meter will be here in a few days so I'll know then. I can't do any higher because I get allodynia and body aches. Also I'm only taking 500mg of berberine which I know is on the low side too.

The other factor is I'm considering going to 6IUs during my upcoming 500mg/week T blast (just cruising on 180mg right now). Probably titrate up to 5 for a bit then hit 6. At 6IU I'm more worried about BG issues so just kind of prepping for that.

R-ALA is another one I'm considering, was reading up on that earlier today actually.
Even at 6iu I don’t think you’d need to do anything else for your bg beyond what you are at your body comp. I’ve gone up to 8iu with just ala without issue.
 
Just ALA? No berberine or GLP1s or anything else?
Split the metformin morning and night. It accumulates in RBCs and has a half life of 17hrs. Metformin is well tolerated and the side-effects are similar to GLPs (Gastrointestinal that resolve over time).

Also, just ignore the rat study posted. Literally useless and not an effect observed in the countless RCTs of actual humans.

I'll also add that there are potential benefits beyond BG control, but since its studied in T2D it's hard to extrapolate data.
 
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Split the metformin morning and night. It accumulates in RBCs and has a half life of 17hrs. Metformin is well tolerated and the side-effects are similar to GLPs (Gastrointestinal that resolve over time).

Also, just ignore the rat study posted. Literally useless and not an effect observed in the countless RCTs of actual humans.

I'll also add that there are potential benefits beyond BG control, but since its studied in T2D it's hard to extrapolate data.
Thanks, yeah I'm I started to reply about the study once I realized it was about rats, but it wasn't worth my time given how often rat studies don't apply to humans.
 
Just ALA? No berberine or GLP1s or anything else?
I used only Ala at the time. I would not add any more bg drugs into the equation until you see how the hgh impacts you. Anecdotal reports appear to be low dose reta is amazing at what it does. @Ateam2023 was getting bg improvement on a small dose of Reta while on hgh. There’s a bunch of other similar reports on here and pro m. I don’t think it would hurt you or cause muscle atrophy, I just suspect that Reta and the barberine are more than enough if you remain lean and active even if their dosing is on the low side.
 
Well between the Reta and the berberine my blood glucose is amazing at night but borderline in the morning. I took it last night 2 hours after my last meal and it was 75.

However I took it this morning and it was 100, so I think I will add 500mg metformin before bed.
 
Took 500mg of metformin last night before bed and my BG was down to 98 today, which is a bit better than 100 but I was expecting it to be lower. Will do the same dose for a few more nights to see if the improvements are cumulative. If not I'll give 1000mg a try.
 

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