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Placed an order a while back that included some Test E during the stopper switching ordeal. Got an email saying the majority of the pack shipped but Test E was currently unavailable and would ship ASAP. Got busy and forgot about it, only remembered weeks later after the last batch of E went OOS. Messaged Primal asking if I could swap out the E for the new batch of Sust as well as pick up some of the fresh EQ, he was apologetic for letting the Test E order slip and sent my new pack out immediately. Gonna be a while before I crack any of it open, but from what I can tell, new stoppers look sexy and there’s no funky business with the EQ. It’s a very pale yellow, no floaters or dwarven piss crystals. Sust is crystal clear. Still a baby when it comes to the hobby so take that as you will. There were a few extra vials thrown in as well that were not necessary by any means but very much appreciated. Not trying to slide anything happening in the thread, just felt I owed @Primal_Pharma a quick shout after several smooth orders and prompt resolution to my one snag. Been a pleasure dealing with you, big dawg.

As for the gear itself, here’s my most recent bloods running 200mg/wk M/W/F of the old batch of Sust 250, for anyone interested. Drawn in a 48hr trough just prior to my scheduled pin. Switched to it from another vendors Test E a couple months back and have had no issues, PIP, whatever.
 

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Placed an order a while back that included some Test E during the stopper switching ordeal. Got an email saying the majority of the pack shipped but Test E was currently unavailable and would ship ASAP. Got busy and forgot about it, only remembered weeks later after the last batch of E went OOS. Messaged Primal asking if I could swap out the E for the new batch of Sust as well as pick up some of the fresh EQ, he was apologetic for letting the Test E order slip and sent my new pack out immediately. Gonna be a while before I crack any of it open, but from what I can tell, new stoppers look sexy and there’s no funky business with the EQ. It’s a very pale yellow, no floaters or dwarven piss crystals. Sust is crystal clear. Still a baby when it comes to the hobby so take that as you will. There were a few extra vials thrown in as well that were not necessary by any means but very much appreciated. Not trying to slide anything happening in the thread, just felt I owed @Primal_Pharma a quick shout after several smooth orders and prompt resolution to my one snag. Been a pleasure dealing with you, big dawg.

As for the gear itself, here’s my most recent bloods running 200mg/wk M/W/F of the old batch of Sust 250, for anyone interested. Drawn in a 48hr trough just prior to my scheduled pin. Switched to it from another vendors Test E a couple months back and have had no issues, PIP, whatever.
DM for store credit brother!
 
Question why do people prefer grape seed based oils over mct, I have heard some people say mct gives them an “allergic” reaction I’ve only ever used mct so don’t know how grapeseed would be better for you can someone elaborate with me also only been using gear for about a year but been researching for about 2 years still much of a noob but always been curious about that
 
Question why do people prefer grape seed based oils over mct, I have heard some people say mct gives them an “allergic” reaction I’ve only ever used mct so don’t know how grapeseed would be better for you can someone elaborate with me also only been using gear for about a year but been researching for about 2 years still much of a noob but always been curious about that
Majority of people prefer mct, Thinner and Longer shelf life.

Some people react better with gso though.
 
Question why do people prefer grape seed based oils over mct, I have heard some people say mct gives them an “allergic” reaction I’ve only ever used mct so don’t know how grapeseed would be better for you can someone elaborate with me also only been using gear for about a year but been researching for about 2 years still much of a noob but always been curious about that
You said it already, nothing really to explain. I have zero issues with either carrier oil, but some people have reactions to mct or gso. Its trial and error.
 
Question why do people prefer grape seed based oils over mct, I have heard some people say mct gives them an “allergic” reaction I’ve only ever used mct so don’t know how grapeseed would be better for you can someone elaborate with me also only been using gear for about a year but been researching for about 2 years still much of a noob but always been curious about that
Personally my blood levels are more stable on GSO than MCT I might also metabolize the test a lot faster so if anyone has any suggestions about that it would be greatly appreciated.
 
That vendor got called out before admitting he was reselling. There was no upfront, he sold all of it before getting called out. He didn't even bother refiltering the oil or etc..

Edit: don't think he sold out.
Are you talking about my call out and the vendor finally admitting to it on a thread in another forum?
If so, I wont say the name here.
It took him a while to respond but he finally did. I am glad he was at least transparent after the fact.
What bums me out was that I bought 40 vials from another vendor who never disclosed the fact. Jano reports show the stuff good. Also wont list this vendor. who i do like and use still btw.
But this primo deal really soured me to reselling china oil.
I just ordered some of this primal primo out of curiosity just to see what it is.
I am worried now that vendors will just rebottle the shit and no one will ever know because the only way i figured it out was the suspiciously same CN bottles of primo showing up on all the vendors web pages at the same time all having the same PIP issues.
 
Excited to try Primo. It’s been out of stock since I started dabbling in anabolics. I took advantage of the 20 percent discount and placed an order late last night. Got the shipping confirmation today. Another smooth transaction from the Amazon of the UGL market.
 
Is there any factual basis supporting the accusation that Primal is re-selling China oil other than the fact that Primal's Primo 200 tested close (in terms of concentration) to that of a China Oil vendor?

If it were me, and if I really wanted Primo, and if I didn't want to order international for a cheaper price, AND if I needed it now and had any suspicions, I would simply just filter it. I have used WWB Primo200 and it was one of the smoothest, least painful Primo 200's i've seen, AND it was overdosed. Again, I understand the issue is vendors being upfront and transparent about re-selling (and some folks cannot tolerate EO which is in most of the china oils), if that is in fact what's happening (not saying it is). But for the end user at the end of the day, just filter it (or don't).
 
Is there any factual basis supporting the accusation that Primal is re-selling China oil other than the fact that Primal's Primo 200 tested close (in terms of concentration) to that of a China Oil vendor?

If it were me, and if I really wanted Primo, and if I didn't want to order international for a cheaper price, AND if I needed it now and had any suspicions, I would simply just filter it. I have used WWB Primo200 and it was one of the smoothest, least painful Primo 200's i've seen, AND it was overdosed. Again, I understand the issue is vendors being upfront and transparent about re-selling (and some folks cannot tolerate EO which is in most of the china oils), if that is in fact what's happening (not saying it is). But for the end user at the end of the day, just filter it (or don't).
Yeah fr especially given how scare primo is right now, I could care less if it was resold from china - as long as it tests as primo200 I'm happy. If anyone did snag some right away, sending it to jano would be nice tho just to know if theres EO in it esp because Primal will reimburse.

About like a month? ago assraws put primo up for presale, and right after that was when primal announced they were going to have primo soon so I just assumed they struck a deal with aasraws. Obviously I could be wrong but I figured that could make sense, that they just jumped on aasraw's presale.
 
At least with Pharma grade MCT, certainly something highly purified like Miglyol 812, if you react to it you must be allergic to your own triglycerides too, because that’s what pure MCT essentially is. 812 is the gold standard pharma oil because there has never been a reported reaction.

If there’s a reaction, it’s from something else in the vial.

840 is even thinner, a more “premium” MCT, but it’s modified from natural MCT so carries a small risk of being incompatible with some people.
 
Yeah fr especially given how scare primo is right now, I could care less if it was resold from china - as long as it tests as primo200 I'm happy. If anyone did snag some right away, sending it to jano would be nice tho just to know if theres EO in it esp because Primal will reimburse.

About like a month? ago assraws put primo up for presale, and right after that was when primal announced they were going to have primo soon so I just assumed they struck a deal with aasraws. Obviously I could be wrong but I figured that could make sense, that they just jumped on aasraw's presale.
I agree - the sticking point is vendors lying about re-selling. Not accusing Primal of doing that AT ALL. And I would not give a FUCK if they were re-selling. But i would 100% want to know it was re-sold so I can get my filtration set up ready, and also decide if I want to pay an upcharge for what can be had at a fraction of the price.
 
I agree - the sticking point is vendors lying about re-selling. Not accusing Primal of doing that AT ALL. And I would not give a FUCK if they were re-selling. But i would 100% want to know it was re-sold so I can get my filtration set up ready, and also decide if I want to pay an upcharge for what can be had at a fraction of the price.
Seems like a simple yes or no from primal would put this to bed
 
Is there any factual basis supporting the accusation that Primal is re-selling China oil other than the fact that Primal's Primo 200 tested close (in terms of concentration) to that of a China Oil vendor?

If it were me, and if I really wanted Primo, and if I didn't want to order international for a cheaper price, AND if I needed it now and had any suspicions, I would simply just filter it. I have used WWB Primo200 and it was one of the smoothest, least painful Primo 200's i've seen, AND it was overdosed. Again, I understand the issue is vendors being upfront and transparent about re-selling (and some folks cannot tolerate EO which is in most of the china oils), if that is in fact what's happening (not saying it is). But for the end user at the end of the day, just filter it (or don't).
Can you filter EO out?

Also, I'm not accusing Primal of anything. I just bought some primo to try and it hasn't even landed yet.
 
I agree - the sticking point is vendors lying about re-selling. Not accusing Primal of doing that AT ALL. And I would not give a FUCK if they were re-selling. But i would 100% want to know it was re-sold so I can get my filtration set up ready, and also decide if I want to pay an upcharge for what can be had at a fraction of the price.
Yeah 100% I def agree - idk if any of you guys remember but a few months ago Axle did this with primo but I'm pretty sure they literally just reshipped the unlabeled Chinese vials out. They ended up admitting to it and cancelling/refunding all of their pending orders(which i was kinda pissed about because I ordered a ton from them and lowkey didn't really care if it was a chinese resell).

Ngl if a domestic vendor here were to throw out a "chinese special ediiton" and just refilter/rebottle chinese oils and sell those, I'd be all for that lmao. Especially with what those primo raws probably cost - aasraq quoted me $38/gram of primo, literally more expensive than what some of the chinese oils were selling foro_O
 
Yeah 100% I def agree - idk if any of you guys remember but a few months ago Axle did this with primo but I'm pretty sure they literally just reshipped the unlabeled Chinese vials out. They ended up admitting to it and cancelling/refunding all of their pending orders(which i was kinda pissed about because I ordered a ton from them and lowkey didn't really care if it was a chinese resell).

Ngl if a domestic vendor here were to throw out a "chinese special ediiton" and just refilter/rebottle chinese oils and sell those, I'd be all for that lmao. Especially with what those primo raws probably cost - aasraq quoted me $38/gram of primo, literally more expensive than what some of the chinese oils were selling foro_O
Yes, just tell us what it is and let us decide if we want to purchase it or not.
 

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