Should I cut first before my first cycle or do it straight away

[eskay144]

I'm 90 kg with around 23% body fat, I'm planning to do my first blast and cruise. Should I cut a few more kilos and then do it, or just do it straight away?
blasting 500mg of test e, 250mg 2x a week, Arimidex when needed, and cruising at 150mg of test e. I'm currently on retatrutide 2 mg, so I want to know if I should cut and stay on reta as I'm on now or hop off reta and hop on test straight away.

 

[djedo]

Start cutting on 150mg, up the reta until you lose most of the fat and then blast.

 

[stevosaurus]

I'm in a similar position to you mate. I started on 93 kg, about 30% body fat. Down to about 18% at the moment on Reta and TRT doses of test.

planning my first blast likely in the new year if I can shake off the last few kgs. I'd really like to minimise sides as much as possible so im trying to make sure I start in as good a position as I can. You will be doing the right thing if you do the same.

I just had to order some emergency reta from a more local source cause its stating to look like my China one has fecked me over.

 

[eskay144]

Start cutting on 150mg, up the reta until you lose most of the fat and then blast.

im also planning to do DNP, so should i run with 150mg test e?

 

[Thriso]

Definitely drop closer to 10% BF before jumping to 500mg a week or you'll likely need a good amount of that adex. Like Djedo said, 150mg a week with Reta is good for a cut.

Once you get that 500mg running you will want to be building muscle, but in a calorie deficit you aren't gonna get the most out of it.

 

[Maiandros88]

I'm 90 kg with around 23% body fat, I'm planning to do my first blast and cruise. Should I cut a few more kilos and then do it, or just do it straight away?
blasting 500mg of test e, 250mg 2x a week, Arimidex when needed, and cruising at 150mg of test e. I'm currently on retatrutide 2 mg, so I want to know if I should cut and stay on reta as I'm on now or hop off reta and hop on test straight away.

You need to be low fat as you can every time you go on a cycle, fat it’s not gonna help you specially with the side effects of the cycle

 

[djedo]

im also planning to do DNP, so should i run with 150mg test e?

yeah,if that's your cruise dose.

 

[Samwise777]

I'd personally cut down a bit first while you're already on the retatrutide. Maybe aim for around 10% body fat before starting the 500mg blast. Might save you from needing too much Arimidex later on. Just my two cents!

 

[W3ak]

Definitely get to 10% bodyfat or near before blasting, you do not need to use DNP for that purpose, simply be patient and continue with retatrutide

 

[CaptainRex501]

You don’t need 150mg test to cut, you don’t have excessive muscle mass you are trying to preserve or low test from past cycles - just keep cutting with Reta

 

[Elektrobot]

I'm 90 kg with around 23% body fat, I'm planning to do my first blast and cruise. Should I cut a few more kilos and then do it, or just do it straight away?
blasting 500mg of test e, 250mg 2x a week, Arimidex when needed, and cruising at 150mg of test e. I'm currently on retatrutide 2 mg, so I want to know if I should cut and stay on reta as I'm on now or hop off reta and hop on test straight away.

Why are you fat

How old are you?

How tall are you ?

How long have you been training

Why do you think you need test, reta and dnp to reach your goals

Why didn't you read the forum instructions and etiquette and tell us all these things in the new members section like you are supposed to?

 

[Slowww]

Cut first you don’t need steroids to keep whatever 65kg of muscle
I bet as a noob you are underestimating how fat you are like 99.9999% of beginners who are fatties

 

[Pronade]

You should cut first for multiple reasons. The first being that you are going to aromatize like a mother fucker when you are fat, and 23% bf is fat. The second being that you’re not leaving yourself much runway to actually gain. Get lean and your body will be incredibly efficient with its weight gain when you add PEDs. Starting out fat, your insulin sensitivity is gonna go to shit pretty quick.

 

[W3ak]

im also planning to do DNP, so should i run with 150mg test e?

Least obvious .org user

 

[nutcase6174]

im also planning to do DNP, so should i run with 150mg test e?

dont run fucking DNP if ur 23%. use a glp down to at least 10% then u can consider adding clen/dnp/t3 if you really do think you're stuck. but better option is just to count your calories.

 

[hexagonal]

"should i get not fat before I add a bunch of additional stress on my body that aggravates many of the same health risks that being fat does?"

I don't say this to fat shame, but to point out that this question is very basic. No, do not blast gear while being fat. Yes, if you are actually at 23% you are below the average for an american male, but the average american male isn't blasting gear and compounding their health risks. For gear using standards, you need to drop another 11-13% bf. You want to be in the 10-12 range.

 

[RockyP]

Most people are way too fat to be bulking. I know this because I used to be one of those people. If you listen to guys who know a lot more than we do, like Justin Harris, he has always advised certainly competitors but even just recreational lifters to get as lean as humanly possible before bulking. Why? Everything works better when you start lean. Your body processes food more efficiently. You can handle the gear better and get less / minimal side effects.

Simple advice. No abs? no bulk.