Very hard to measure volume accurately with a bathtub.
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This, I have no idea what actual dose I'm running, and I don't want to test multiple vials when I only have a few from each batch. Doesn't seem worth the effort.
I don't have a ton of experience here but I haven't seen a UGL with such variance between their own testing and third party.
@Primal_Pharma I don't think anyone is trying to tear you down. We're just trying to understand what is going on. You have gotten good at dodging the actual question and giving defensive boiler plate answers about all the good progress you have made.
...and supporting vendors who use the right equipment for the job.
Push for a higher standard and be willing to pay for it.
crispybacon!
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Same. So I’m tossing my remaining 3 vials and taking the “L”.
So you saw my response to you?
Earthworm Jim
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I like how solution minded you are readalot. Not depending on the source to come up with a solution but instead telling him exactly how to fix the variance. Very resourceful
1. HPLC raw testing before making batch. Request actual purity calculated value (mg API measured / mg sample measured). Not the XX%+ notation.
2. Accurate analytical balance
3. Volumetric flask for final volume on batch
All excipients can be added by mass.
Accurate densities are known as well for BA/BB. w/w vs v/v vs w/v. Avoids using density estimates for batch solution.
Accurate mg/ml on API concentration per batch.
2. Accurate analytical balance
3. Volumetric flask for final volume on batch
All excipients can be added by mass.
Accurate densities are known as well for BA/BB. w/w vs v/v vs w/v. Avoids using density estimates for batch solution.
Accurate mg/ml on API concentration per batch.
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Dial It In
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Well we don’t know the equipment. “Opsec” remember. Although 99 percent of the other sources posted theirs. Pretty sure LE can’t tell by a pic unless they have already been in your lab
if gcms shows it’s domestic primo I will send out one of my vials I received to see if dosage is consistent
We dont need to "know" the equipment or see a pic. Nice to have though.
We need sources to have the right equipment and know how to use it properly.
Dial It In
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What good is that when you take in the big picture? They have a vial sitting there already. I’m going to go ask Jano the turn around on a vial that’s already in possession. But the big picture. If we can’t get consistent dosage from vial to vial then it questions other aspects. What does this brewer know about sterilizing? What do they know about consistent brewing. Add all the beakers you want. Dose variance in small increments is one thing as we move from beaker to beaker. But large variance even in UGL is another. This isn’t a small issue. Fuck shipping speed and cost. Every source ships quick. If this can be cleaned up with more raw testing (look at how much there has been) and complete finished product testing I’d be all in on primal.
We hear you guys.
We’ve been reading through all the constructive criticism and feedback and we’re taking it seriously. We know we’re not perfect and there’s definitely room to tighten up how we do things, from communication to testing to how we present info.
@readalot made some great suggestions that we’ll be looking to follow through on moving forward. We appreciate the time and thought that goes into those posts, it helps us improve and holds us to a higher standard.
We’re here for the long haul and we’ll keep working to earn your trust every step of the way.
We’ve been reading through all the constructive criticism and feedback and we’re taking it seriously. We know we’re not perfect and there’s definitely room to tighten up how we do things, from communication to testing to how we present info.
@readalot made some great suggestions that we’ll be looking to follow through on moving forward. We appreciate the time and thought that goes into those posts, it helps us improve and holds us to a higher standard.
We’re here for the long haul and we’ll keep working to earn your trust every step of the way.
Trying my best. Thank you.
Dial It In
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Look at my post and please chime in Sir
SwolieGuacamole
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That’s the point. Why such large variances.
Covered above. Steps above remove significant sources of error in mg/ml.
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