Trt Test with microdosis Tren A

[Ghex]

Goodmorning!

Im now on a 10 weeks trt dosis test 125mg pw with 40mcg clen and reta 4mg.
Im trying to get a little bf down im now at 11/12%.
I want to add tren-a, not the first time im going to try it.

But now with the shortage of mast/primo, can i run 10mg tren-a per day, without an ai?
Does someone experience it befor?

 

[demal]

What? Why are you worried about an AI?

 

[ripper908]

Tren shouldn't require an AI

 

[demal]

Tren shouldn't require an AI

Technically, it could cause some e2 & prolactin related problems when paired with testosterone (unlikely at 70mg however). But given that he runs 125mg test at 11% body fat I completely agree here with you.

 

[RockyP]

70 mg of tren will give some nice benefits with minimal / no sides. What’s more important is finding out if you like low test or high test with your tren. Some guys feel awful on high test with tren. Some the opposite. Since you’re committed to low test (trt) you’ll find out how this agrees with you. In theory at least we shouldn’t need as much test with Tren since Tren binds so much more strongly to the AR than test does. But there are other reasons to run higher test.

Also, no need for AI with this combo. Tren doesn’t aromatize and the gyno it can cause is prolactin related. That being said, 19-Nors can sensitize us to the effects of estrogen, so say an E2 of 40 on Tren / nandrolone might lead to side effects whereas it wouldn’t otherwise. Only way to know is to track bloods. Personally I always make sure my E2 is on the low end, less than 40, when running nandrolone or Tren.

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

Idk how you guys manage to pin daily, has anyone tried microdosing say 70mg of tren weekly using Tren E. I've grown to hate pinning more than twice a week

 

[Ferhev]

Idk how you guys manage to pin daily, has anyone tried microdosing say 70mg of tren weekly using Tren E. I've grown to hate pinning more than twice a week

I prefer daily injections. Less side effects and less volume per injection. 3 injections Ventro Glute (MWF) and 4 injections delts (Tuesday,Thursday,Saturday and Sunday.) always rotating sides.

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

I envy you being able to do that, sounds absolutely miserable to me. Maybe im using the wrong pins, 25g, just is more than I can handle doing daily.

 

[Jaxino]

Goodmorning!

Im now on a 10 weeks trt dosis test 125mg pw with 40mcg clen and reta 4mg.
Im trying to get a little bf down im now at 11/12%.
I want to add tren-a, not the first time im going to try it.

But now with the shortage of mast/primo, can i run 10mg tren-a per day, without an ai?
Does someone experience it befor?

A very close friend of mine, after reaching 120 kg at 184 cm quite lean, decided to stop running high-dose PED cycles and just stay on a maintenance regimen.

He looks fantastic now at 106 kg , very muscles "lost", and he has been using the following for the past year and a half:

• 250 mg Test E (pharmaceutical, from Germany)
• 5 mg Tren A daily
• 5 IU generic HGH daily
• 100 mcg T4 daily

Bloods are perfect too.

If you think tren by itself is going to strip off body fat, you’re mistaken.

 

[Cyp180]

Clen, Reta and Tren first time user ?

 

[RockyP]

Goodmorning!

A very close friend of mine, after reaching 120 kg at 184 cm quite lean, decided to stop running high-dose PED cycles and just stay on a maintenance regimen.

He looks fantastic now at 106 kg , very muscles "lost", and he has been using the following for the past year and a half:

• 250 mg Test E (pharmaceutical, from Germany)
• 5 mg Tren A daily
• 5 IU generic HGH daily
• 100 mcg T4 daily

Bloods are perfect too.

If you think tren by itself is going to strip off body fat, you’re mistaken.

The devil is in the dosage with trenbolone. With some exceptions (personal tolerance, what other compounds are being run along side it and at what dosages), much of what you hear about the horrors of Tren is greatly exaggerated due to excessive dosing. Tren is so powerful that you simply do not need a lot of it. What’s a lot? I would say over 300 mg per week is a lot. Doesn’t mean you can’t or shouldn’t use more, but most people will get great results at less than 300. I find that guys want to “feel” it to be sure it’s working to be clear, getting the night sweats, hypertension, etc does not mean you’re getting a better effect than someone who has no side effects. It seem that people have adopted the idea that “its not working if I’m not getting horrible side effects.” That’s rubbish. And I know everyone says bodybuilders lie and they do. But for some reason every single bodybuilder from Dorian’s era who had access to pharma grade Parabolan said nobody ever took more than 3 amps per week, so 228 mg tren hex.

I’m currently cutting and have escalated my tren dosage to 20 mg daily with zero side effects. No blood pressure issues. No sexual sides. Other compounds are 60 mg test and 50 mg masteron daily. It’s possible the masteron is helping with some of the side effects. I prefer to always have a DHT on board when running a 19 nor. I could probably tolerate more tren but it’s doing the job so not much reason to adjust.

I plan to attempt something similar to your friend’s maintenance after a health phase. That is, something like 250 mg test and 35 mg Tren per week, perhaps with 150 mg of mast or so. Just to see how the bloodwork looks.

And while Tren definitely does not strip off body fat, there isn’t a better compound under the sun to run when in a big calorie deficit. My strength has been largely maintained since the beginning of the cut, which was about 20kg in bodyweight ago. And combined with masteron you get this incredibly full, hard, dry look to your physique, assuming bf is low enough.

 

[wells14]

Idk how you guys manage to pin daily, has anyone tried microdosing say 70mg of tren weekly using Tren E. I've grown to hate pinning more than twice a week

It's easy and takes 2mins

 

[RockyP]

It's easy and takes 2mins

MCT oil slightly warmed in an insulin pin. Very easy and quick. Loading the pins takes the most time.

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

I just don't like putting large needs in myself daily

 

[RockyP]

I just don't like putting large needs in myself daily

Insulin pin. The needle is so small you can barely see it.

 

[Liter O' Test]

if youre just a fat guy who hasnt ran steroids before then no

i can't tell if english isnt your first language or you are just a fatty that started TRT and reta and want to take more things instead of exercise and diet

 

[wells14]

I just don't like putting large needs in myself daily

Pinning ~0.2ml every day rather than, say, ~1.5ml, is so much more pleasant. I've done the multiple ML pins twice weekly before and switching back to daily was like a breath of fresh air. I'm on 5.2ml/wk currently and would hate to do that in 1 or 2 shots.

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

Insulin pin. The needle is so small you can barely see it.

I'm not really understanding how you manage to IM with an insulin pin. How is that not an issue with them being so small

 

[wells14]

I'm not really understanding how you manage to IM with an insulin pin. How is that not an issue with them being so small

They're half an inch long. If you have anywhere near half an inch of fat on your quad or delt you need ozempic not steroids.

 

[Ferhev]

I envy you being able to do that, sounds absolutely miserable to me. Maybe im using the wrong pins, 25g, just is more than I can handle doing daily.

I use 25g on ventro glute and 30g on delts