Post up your Natty IGF-1 Level

[hankreal]

Just got my igf back after running 2.5 iu nightly for two weeks. Igf was 308 and z score was 1.6 at 30 years old. I'm upping my dosage to 3.5 and gonna test again sometime. My natty was 205. Mainly upping my dosage to see if I can improve sleep. My sleep is slightly boosted now, but I'm greedy. I got some amazing naps and sleep on 4 iu, but I wanted to ease into it and not push without my igf data. Thanks to @Ghoul for all the info around igf and what not.

 

[Ghoul]

Just got my igf back after running 2.5 iu nightly for two weeks. Igf was 308 and z score was 1.6 at 30 years old. I'm upping my dosage to 3.5 and gonna test again sometime. My natty was 205. Mainly upping my dosage to see if I can improve sleep. My sleep is slightly boosted now, but I'm greedy. I got some amazing naps and sleep on 4 iu, but I wanted to ease into it and not push without my igf data. Thanks to @Ghoul for all the info around igf and what not.

Glad you found it useful.

I’m happy I was able to settle the question over minimizing risk with long term use in my mind too.

Acromegaly, the biggest risk from GH, and the same process that underlies the theoretical increased cancer risk, can only occur with supraphysiological systemic IGF-1.

If your liver was so messed up 20iu / day resulted in a IGF-1 of 100, you’ll never develop acromegaly. (Maybe diabetes lol, but not acromegaly or increased cancer risk).

And if anyone’s wondering, local IGF-1 production in muscle, which increases with rHGH dose, even with low levels of endocrine IGF-1 (liver produced / systemic), cannot cause acromegaly either. Not enough IGF-1 can “escape” muscle tissue to cause acromegaly.

 

[explodingHeart]

Glad you found it useful.

I’m happy I was able to settle the question over minimizing risk with long term use in my mind too.

Acromegaly, the biggest risk from GH, and the same process that underlies the theoretical increased cancer risk, can only occur with supraphysiological systemic IGF-1.

If your liver was so messed up 20iu / day resulted in a IGF-1 of 100, you’ll never develop acromegaly. (Maybe diabetes lol, but not acromegaly or increased cancer risk).

And if anyone’s wondering, local IGF-1 production in muscle, which increases with rHGH dose, even with low levels of endocrine IGF-1 (liver produced / systemic), cannot cause acromegaly either. Not enough IGF-1 can “escape” muscle tissue to cause acromegaly.

IGF output will be massively different for dieting down in single digits vs bulking or maintenance, right?

So we should keep context and mine and test under both conditions?

 

[Moose]

My labs came back with a number of 241. My labs reference range for a 54 year old male is 71-255. I was considering starting IGF-LR3 peptides. But since I'm at the upper range of my reference range, should I be concerned about my number being too high?

 

[screamingeagle]

I'm at 139. Going to start CJC/Ipa.

 

[brutalbuilt]

blood test only test for serum... igf in serum is useless you want igf in muscle

 

[screamingeagle]

blood test only test for serum... igf in serum is useless you want igf in muscle

Tell me more about this. Is intramuscular IGF test available? My goal is to avoid supraphysiological levels and the associated issues.

 

[Ghoul]

My labs came back with a number of 241. My labs reference range for a 54 year old male is 71-255. I was considering starting IGF-LR3 peptides. But since I'm at the upper range of my reference range, should I be concerned about my number being too high?

Increlex has acromegaly warnings. LR3 hits IGF-1 receptors too but it doesn’t get picked up very well on IGF-1 tests. So you’re flying blind. You have some leeway, another ~60 before you reach Z 3.

For a short term experiment it ought to be ok ,

 

[brutalbuilt]

Tell me more about this. Is intramuscular IGF test available? My goal is to avoid supraphysiological levels and the associated issues.

only way to test is if your willingly to get a biopsy and let them cut a piece of your muscle out to test