HGH first timer

[Savagen8v]

Alright boys I'm new to meso and appreciate the knowledge that all you old skools be passing on. I'm about 40 years old and have been in and out the gym most my life. I have ran a few cycles before and am currently on a small cycle of test E (600mgs/wk) and Deca (300mgs/wk). Have been researching a bit on HGH and I am wanting to add it into my current regimen. Reading online I read all sorts of recommendations on IU per day. So that I would bring it to yall. How many IU do yall reccomend?

 

[RoxasShadow]

Test your natural IGF1 and verify your z-score.
Depending on where you position, let's say you do average, you will want to start at around 3-4IU and check again after 2-3 weeks to see where you ended up with.

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Thread 'If you only lose as much as you are in a deficit, what’s the point of GH for fat loss?'

Nov 25, 2025

Thinking of incorporating some GH into my Reta + Cag stack during my PSMF. Would the benefits of adding it in be? I see that GH is mentioned a lot for fat loss, but you will only fat as big as your deficit, so what is the actual benefit here? Does it actually help preserve muscle mass, especially in a large deficit, therefore you lose more fat since less comes from muscle stores? Am I missing something here?

Appreciate any input.

• trenisbest
• Replies: 40
• Forum: Human Growth Hormone and Peptides

Look at Ghoul's message about Z-Score/SDS

 

[just some dude]

i’ll let the people with more knowledge talk about the health side of things, you know, how high your growth factors actually are, and how good your insulin health / sensitivity is, etc.

but i will say this and this helped me a lot to figure out HGH a bit more coming from AAS only

and it’s very over simplified but still helps:

AAS = bigger existing muscle cells
HGH = get more / new muscle cells

 

[just some dude]

Test your natural IGF1 and verify your z-score.
Depending on where you position, let's say you do average, you will want to start at around 3-4IU and check again after 2-3 weeks to see where you ended up with.

T

Thread 'If you only lose as much as you are in a deficit, what’s the point of GH for fat loss?'

Nov 25, 2025

Thinking of incorporating some GH into my Reta + Cag stack during my PSMF. Would the benefits of adding it in be? I see that GH is mentioned a lot for fat loss, but you will only fat as big as your deficit, so what is the actual benefit here? Does it actually help preserve muscle mass, especially in a large deficit, therefore you lose more fat since less comes from muscle stores? Am I missing something here?

Appreciate any input.

• trenisbest
• Replies: 40
• Forum: Human Growth Hormone and Peptides

Look at Ghoul's message about Z-Score/SDS

yes ghoul brought up a very important side of the health aspect of it because for many years guys always recommended to start at ___ but the reality is that it is extremely individual by genetics alone

 

[Ukuser188]

My advice is watch your blood sugars. I am lucky, 35iu a week does nothing to me. However, a mate of mine saw increasing resting BG from 15iu a week. Remarkable how some folks can be majorly sensitive to it.