Catteni
New Member
Not your dose sorry. I was talking about AIs being pushed and treating numbers not the symptoms.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Is NPP a good first Steroid to use for a blast?
- Thread starter MaxPayne09
- Start date
RockyP
Member
The first job for any PED user is to (over time, not out of the gate) find out how much test they can tolerate without using an AI or a secondary anabolic that functions as an AI (primo, EQ). Then, and there’s debate on this, I’d say the next task is to try to obtain your short term goals using nothing but test (and an AI as needed). I think Kurt havens is right when he says that way too many guys are reaching for secondary compounds when they haven’t even ran 500 of test. Even less have run 750 or 1000 of test alone. Trust me, that is a lot of gear and if you can control your E2 and don’t have any other sides like hair loss etc, it’s the best way to go imo.
Now once that’s all established and / or if you run into a road block while running up the test dosage, NPP isn’t a terrible option. Nandrolone is fantastic if you can tolerate it. And the only way to know is to try. Biggest side effects are gyno from prolactin increase, sexual side effects, and mental issues. If none of those come around, it might be a good choice. There’s lots of literature about nandrolone and cardiac toxicity, different topic and area under the curve matters. That is, you’re prob not gonna run 600+ of NPP for half the year for years on end.
Another option could be masteron. It won’t crash your E2 like primo or EQ, and it does add a different look to your physique. People say it’s not anabolic and that’s kind of silly. You need to be eating enough and most of us use mast for cutting. But even in a cut I notice increased strength and neural drive when mast is added. Sides include hair loss (can happen with any drug) and lipid issues. Some guys get BPH symptoms. As someone stated above the best drug is the one you can tolerate. Hence why we should spend most of our journey maxing out test.
Now once that’s all established and / or if you run into a road block while running up the test dosage, NPP isn’t a terrible option. Nandrolone is fantastic if you can tolerate it. And the only way to know is to try. Biggest side effects are gyno from prolactin increase, sexual side effects, and mental issues. If none of those come around, it might be a good choice. There’s lots of literature about nandrolone and cardiac toxicity, different topic and area under the curve matters. That is, you’re prob not gonna run 600+ of NPP for half the year for years on end.
Another option could be masteron. It won’t crash your E2 like primo or EQ, and it does add a different look to your physique. People say it’s not anabolic and that’s kind of silly. You need to be eating enough and most of us use mast for cutting. But even in a cut I notice increased strength and neural drive when mast is added. Sides include hair loss (can happen with any drug) and lipid issues. Some guys get BPH symptoms. As someone stated above the best drug is the one you can tolerate. Hence why we should spend most of our journey maxing out test.
MaxPayne09
New Member
Thank you for this thoughtful response. Very helpful. TBH I only got the idea of blasting and using npp as a first one was from grok LLM as I was conversing my goals with it. (Silly I know hence I found this forum and validating it with folks who have done this before)
adrenalytic
Member
Yeah, ashtray face lol. I kid I kid...sorta. If Todd Lee is the result of too much mast Imma pass on that one.
Elektrobot
Member
.... You've gained 14 pounds of water
Has your blood pressure gone up? What is it?
Pick one an optimize for it
Don't waste an anabolic cycle on being in a deficit to loose fat
And don't try to loose fat while being in a surplus to take advantage of an anabolic cycle.
Get lean
Then reprogram for growth
If you want PED's for that, use Reta, and HGH at night fasted- then do morning fasted cardio. Stay in the deficit until the goal is reached.
adrenalytic
Member
100%
Being lean opens so many doors for you in the PED world. And you will never be fat again (if you're smart). Steroids do not get you lean but they sure can keep you lean.
MaxPayne09
New Member
It wasn't just water - the body had recomped and no bp issues. Thanks for the other tips, though; they are definitely helpful. I will prioritize getting lean first, as most have suggested. Reta and GH are on the way!
adrenalytic
Member
You got this. Reta and Gh are exactly how I dropped 45 lbs in 3 months (full disclosure: lots of cardio too). But it need not be that severe. Lose the weight slower to avoid loose skin.
Elektrobot
Member
.... you did not grow 15 pounds of contractile tissue in 6 months after starting trt. You have to be honest with yourself. That would be like slapping 30 8oz sirloin steaks on your body.
You look fuller because your muscles started holding more water after you started test.
What is your blood pressure? Its important to check it daily. Don't let it get above 120/70
Have you done your lipid panels and lpa and all that stuff?
Before you start GH, it is important to check your natty IGF-1
That is what you will base your dosing from, and it is important to recheck. Search for Z Score, and read the HGH topics here. Lots of good info.
HGH can really make a difference.
MaxPayne09
New Member
Fair point, maybe I am just being naive that I put on 15lbs of muscle. Yes been regular with blood work and lipids have been good.
I do need to get a igf-1 labs done though and will before starting on GH. Thanks again!
I do need to get a igf-1 labs done though and will before starting on GH. Thanks again!
Oh grow up you absolute melt
