First cycle

[Slowww]

Same man, I like to think I'm an insensitive ass at times, but some how these kids today going through trials of daily life put me in my place. Dad Life.

For sure, being at an age where they are still very easily persuaded and swayed with such an extreme social media/internet environment is something we didnt go through, couple that with the recent lock downs during formative ages and probably severe lack of socialization and development and we get this stuff on a regular basis. Sure we also had our fair share of weird stuff on the internet, also had 4chan and whatever else but the lengths people go and the internet culture that is prevalent with the youth today is a lot more extreme + normal issues. Tough

 

[Arvidzh]

Also - maybe I'm dense,.but you have your face blocked out in 1 photo but not the other one..at least ask the mods to fix that (though they will presumably torch this whole thread given your age)

Edit: also make sure you have been evaluated for pectus excavatum. At minimum chest X-rays but probably full spine would be a great idea.

I have been actually, light scoliosis

 

[Arvidzh]

Same man, I like to think I'm an insensitive ass at times, but some how these kids today going through trials of daily life put me in my place. Dad Life.

@Arvidzh hit me up in DMs kid, let's talk more in depth. I'm not going to condone nor promote anything related to AAS. So if that's your goal don't ask. But if you don't have anyone as stated above family wise, reach out and let's get down to how things are going in life. Insecure is no way to live and I'm on here at least once a day or every few days. Like you I was 16 once, 6'2" and 145lbs, I don't sugar coat things.

I dont know how to dm

 

[Arvidzh]

For sure, being at an age where they are still very easily persuaded and swayed with such an extreme social media/internet environment is something we didnt go through, couple that with the recent lock downs during formative ages and probably severe lack of socialization and development and we get this stuff on a regular basis. Sure we also had our fair share of weird stuff on the internet, also had 4chan and whatever else but the lengths people go and the internet culture that is prevalent with the youth today is a lot more extreme + normal issues. Tough

If consider myself pretty social, lots of friends, straight as sometimes bs, but alot of people take stuff esp mt2, reta, and cjc no dac and ipamorelin, it feels almost normalised in my social circle

 

[thejumpingsheep]

Is this one of those catfish attempts all the little kids are trying to do? Or is it just one of those looksmaxer morons?

Cant really take this post seriously at all. I rate it

75% catfishing
25% looksmaxer moron

 

[Arvidzh]

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Dude - if you have parents that care, talk to them.
If not, older siblings? Uncle? Grandparents?
Still no? Coach? Counselor? Clergy? Someone??

I'm not sure what you are hoping to do with this "stack." I don't have a clue what possessed you to start all this shit...but has any of the stuff you have already used made a difference?

I assume you don't really have anyone in your life paying attention. I can't fathom how you have access to all this shit and no one to question it?

If you NEED this stuff then you need to
1.) START with a comprehensive medical evaluation

2.) and ask them to add on a psychological evaluation.

3.) Comprehensive baseline lab work - you can't order it on your own based on your age. Honestly, no doctor is going to add on the things we routinely check here to get an idea of what cycles are doing to our system.

4.) DIET: hell,.see if you can meet with a nutritionist?

5.) Trainer?? Do you have a coach or someone? I security probably keeping you from seeking out these resources but at least where I am there are even medical referrals to work with a trainer for like 10 sessions. If you have the cash for all this dope then you must have cash for other ancillary things

There are far better ways to deal with anxiety and insecurity..I'm sympathetic to your plight. I mean shit, I have a kid your age and the catty bullshit he doesn't want to deal with from teenagers on sports teams and in the gym is just sad...no idea what your situation is but these compounds are not "safe",."clean", or "harmless."

You are going to be far more prone to the psychological side effects of gear, your endocrine system is going through plenty at your age...not to mention horrible acne, hair loss, and Lord knows what facial transfigurations with HGH.

Your stack is just throwing darts at a board. I'm not making fun of you. You have zero idea what you are doing....and zero medical supervision to track the harm you are doing. I'm not just grandpa shaking his fist at the clouds.

Ultimately you are going to do what you are going to do. But Jesus dude...take a step back. Brainstorm some better ideas for your life...I mean shit,.even ChatGPT may help you with this aspect of things. There has got to be another way for you.

Good luck.

I'm not a puritan. As a compromise, try dropping all the other shit and just starting with Test C? To be honest I don't have a fucking clue what dose to tell you to start at because your natural levels are probably already at 1000 anyway...adding 200 mg is probably just gonna shut your natural production down.

Im hoping to finally like myself, i like my body right now but thats mostly due to genetical clavicles and my waist, yet no mass and im scared of facial fat because to be honest i do evaluate my worth as a person on my looks so i can basically not bulk, self worth issues, and yeah i just wanna get easy mass as pussy as that sounds

 

[Arvidzh]

Is this one of those catfish attempts all the little kids are trying to do? Or is it just one of those looksmaxer morons?

Cant really take this post seriously at all. I rate it

75% catfishing
25% looksmaxer moron

Catfish what, this is me, and i yes i have gotten into this because of looksmaxing but that happened back in 2023 im off that shit now

 

[Arvidzh]

Go see a therapist

I could never, what would my parents think lol

 

[Arvidzh]

If your already on a bunch of shit and still 141lbs then you seriously need a diet overhaul.

My 16 year old kid is that weight at 5' 9" and hes never stepped foot in a gym before

Track what you eat and keep bumping up calories until you see weight gain, when you stall out bump it up etc.

If you have issues eating alot then make some mass gain shakes like oats, protein powder, peanut butter, bananas, Greek yogurt etc etc and drink it.

More drugs won't make you grow if you cant grow now. The issue here is food and thats it

I overdosed on retatrutide for the past few months to get hollow cheeks, barely ate 1000kcal and 100g of protein a day for the past month, my peak was 67-68kg, im also off of cjc dac and ipamorelin (as in the cjcs half life is over by two days now) so water renention is was lower, added with how reta acts on the gcgr its even lower now

 

[thejumpingsheep]

I could never, what would my parents think lol

Bud you are 16. Your brain isnt even fully formed yet. Dont make long term decisions especially if you are not insanely bright (high achiever academic or otherwise) and even then always question your choices. A human brain isnt fully developed till well into the 20s. So its not just you, its everyone who was 16 at some point.

You are 16 and intent on hurting yourself just to look a certain way. Does this sound sane to you? Why are you doing it again? For someone else to look at you? Why the fuck do you even care? To get some ass? Again does this sound sane?

Girls are so varried in their taste there is no way to predict what they like and what they dont. Dont even bother trying. Some dont like big muscular men (actually that seems to be rather the majority). Some prefer athletic looks or just average look. Some just want someone who can speak intelligently and that turns them on. Some hate big dicks because it hurts them. Some get horny over money and others could care less about material things. Some want a mopey drama queen for a boyfriend. They are not as predictable as boys/men.

What you are doing is no different than young anorexic girls who make themselves throw up to avoid getting fat (aka bulimia). If you dont want help fine, its your life after all, but at least question what you are doing.

I still think this is an attempt to catfish (lol).

 

[Cman90]

Bro what the fuck. High school kids used to smoke cigarettes and drink beer. Now they're shooting them selves up with Chinese research chemicals for hollow cheeks to boost their "PSL". What has this world come to

 

[Slowww]

If consider myself pretty social, lots of friends, straight as sometimes bs, but alot of people take stuff esp mt2, reta, and cjc no dac and ipamorelin, it feels almost normalised in my social circle

Im not talking about whether youre social or a shut in. Building self confidence and developing self worth is not just about talking to others. especially if they are also suffering from the same problems and abusing the same things. When I was in high school I had several friends who freebased dog food but that doesn’t mean it’s normal or good for you. Yes of course they liked it, they were addicts and felt good because they filled the cracks in their psychology with that— but that didnt fix it. It’s the same way that you’re addressing a symptom and expecting the illness to be treated. You might get bigger (might—because you said you can’t bulk anyways) but that’s not going to fix the issue. You could make real progress, address your character flaws, and really develop as a man, or you can try and use a drug cocktail bandaid to feel better for a moment like the other kids. you could totally achieve your body goals by learning self respect, discipline, motivation, a little patience and actually working to accomplish some goals. Guarantee you will feel a lot more proud of yourself and develop some real self esteem that way.

 

[tweek]

I overdosed on retatrutide for the past few months to get hollow cheeks, barely ate 1000kcal and 100g of protein a day for the past month, my peak was 67-68kg, im also off of cjc dac and ipamorelin (as in the cjcs half life is over by two days now) so water renention is was lower, added with how reta acts on the gcgr its even lower now

Man wtf are you doing to yourself. This is sad

 

[Arvidzh]

Bud you are 16. Your brain isnt even fully formed yet. Dont make long term decisions especially if you are not insanely bright (high achiever academic or otherwise) and even then always question your choices. A human brain isnt fully developed till well into the 20s. So its not just you, its everyone who was 16 at some point.

You are 16 and intent on hurting yourself just to look a certain way. Does this sound sane to you? Why are you doing it again? For someone else to look at you? Why the fuck do you even care? To get some ass? Again does this sound sane?

Girls are so varried in their taste there is no way to predict what they like and what they dont. Dont even bother trying. Some dont like big muscular men (actually that seems to be rather the majority). Some prefer athletic looks or just average look. Some just want someone who can speak intelligently and that turns them on. Some hate big dicks because it hurts them. Some get horny over money and others could care less about material things. Some want a mopey drama queen for a boyfriend. They are not as predictable as boys/men.

What you are doing is no different than young anorexic girls who make themselves throw up to avoid getting fat (aka bulimia). If you dont want help fine, its your life after all, but at least question what you are doing.

I still think this is an attempt to catfish (lol).

Its not a catfish, i dont know how much proof you want, still all i want is to know what to optimize about the cycle and what the chances of recovery are, aswell as the gains (in 4 months) and how much id lose during pct

 

[Arvidzh]

Bro what the fuck. High school kids used to smoke cigarettes and drink beer. Now they're shooting them selves up with Chinese research chemicals for hollow cheeks to boost their "PSL". What has this world come to

Why not both, seriously tho, i do put looks (and height) above most other things, considering i get substantially more girls than basically any guy i know, i just wanna make me feel better sbout myself and do that with validation from girls and guys, girls arent an issue, guys are though, i need to be heavier but still remain lean in a short time, roids are indeed the lnly way

 

[AllbrandNew]

i like my body right now but thats mostly due to genetical clavicles and my waist, yet no mass and im scared of facial fat because to be honest i do evaluate my worth as a person on my looks so i can basically not bulk, self worth issues

Fix that first, become an adult, and reevaluate when your brain is fully developed. Your perspective is so skewed it's silly, and whether or not you realize that now doesn't change the need to get your mental shit in order LOOONNGGG before you consider anything else, let alone AAS.

Oh, and reporting the underage bit since you didn't read the forum rules.

 

[Isrrike]

You don’t need drugs you need food.your natural igf is already higher than what hgh will give you.

 

[wells14]

Tick tock has ruined these kids

 

[trtbuilder]

Just do whatever you want, kid. It's clear you aren't going to listen to anyone on here. You'll regret your decisions in a decade.

 

[Arvidzh]

Im not talking about whether youre social or a shut in. Building self confidence and developing self worth is not just about talking to others. especially if they are also suffering from the same problems and abusing the same things. When I was in high school I had several friends who freebased dog food but that doesn’t mean it’s normal or good for you. Yes of course they liked it, they were addicts and felt good because they filled the cracks in their psychology with that— but that didnt fix it. It’s the same way that you’re addressing a symptom and expecting the illness to be treated. You might get bigger (might—because you said you can’t bulk anyways) but that’s not going to fix the issue. You could make real progress, address your character flaws, and really develop as a man, or you can try and use a drug cocktail bandaid to feel better for a moment like the other kids. you could totally achieve your body goals by learning self respect, discipline, motivation, a little patience and actually working to accomplish some goals. Guarantee you will feel a lot more proud of yourself and develop some real self esteem that way.

Never had much self esteem im cocky not confident and as you probably noticed not the most comfortable in my body, i wish it was different i wish all of this was but it isnt and now i face either being skinny with an alright face, or leanbulk and risk face fat, or lean bulk with roids, few months ugly then back to normal but with more dimoprhism and hopefully slight acromegaly, like josh mcgregor