Cycle question

[DazDillinger]

I’ll be wrapping up this cycle 700 test 400 primo anywhere from 6-12 iu hgh great results no issues assuming my next bloodwork comes out decent. I’ll be cruising for about 6-8 weeks to fool the doctor which unfortunately I have to do. After that I’ll be ramping up again for another 20 weeks. I have been eating in a surplus and going to maintenance for the cruise. I plan on cutting around April my question is what should I do nutritionally for the 8 weeks before? Think it’s beneficial to eat in a surplus again for those 8 weeks or should I just stay around maintenance. I was very lean when I started I’ve gone from about 190 to 225 and not fat yet just thicker. Thanks for any input.

 

[adrenalytic]

If you're still on cycle why are you dropping to maintenance calories now? It'll take about 4 weeks for esters to drop off. You could still make gains in that period. Which begs the question why cruise for 6-8 weeks? You don't need that long to get normal for the doc unless you're running long esters and ridiculous doses (are you?).

 

[Slowww]

Eat the same amount (whatever is required to hold new muscle) as long as possible before you cut. Imo we shouldn’t go directly from peak weight in bulk into a cut but need to hold the tissue one month minimum, but more is better. A period thats not necessarily “growth” but allowing the body to adjust to it and want to keep it

 

[DazDillinger]

Makes alot of sense thanks

 

[DazDillinger]

If you're still on cycle why are you dropping to maintenance calories now? It'll take about 4 weeks for esters to drop off. You could still make gains in that period. Which begs the question why cruise for 6-8 weeks? You don't need that long to get normal for the doc unless you're running long esters and ridiculous doses (are you?).

Thought it would be a good idea just because I’m sick of eating but would be willing to keep shoveling it in for the greater good. Appointment is 2/7 just wanted to be safe just doing test cyp and primo didn’t want my levels too high and he’s like wtf

 

[adrenalytic]

Thought it would be a good idea just because I’m sick of eating but would be willing to keep shoveling it in for the greater good. Appointment is 2/7 just wanted to be safe just doing test cyp and primo didn’t want my levels too high and he’s like wtf

You'll be fine if you stop injections 3 weeks before your test. So it works like this: You stop test injections and after 1 half life (~8 days with cyp), you get 50% clearance (350 mg), after 2 half lives, another 25% (175 mg) and it continues like this in a slower declining manner.

Long story short, you'll be in physiological range by week 3 at your dose. Shoot for week 4 to be safe. Any longer and you will look deficient. And it's highly unlikely that your doc is going to test you on the spot. He'll order the labs which might take a week or two to get an appointment so take that into consideration as well.

No need to cut your cycle shorter than it needs to be. Time is our enemy in this game. I am a believer that we have a finite number of cycles in us to get it done before damage becomes irreversible. Don't rob yourself.

 

[DazDillinger]

You'll be fine if you stop injections 3 weeks before your test. So it works like this: You stop test injections and after 1 half life (~8 days with cyp), you get 50% clearance (350 mg), after 2 half lives, another 25% (175 mg) and it continues like this in a slower declining manner.

Long story short, you'll be in physiological range by week 3 at your dose. Shoot for week 4 to be safe. Any longer and you will look deficient. And it's highly unlikely that your doc is going to test you on the spot. He'll order the labs which might take a week or two to get an appointment so take that into consideration as well.

No need to cut your cycle shorter than it needs to be. Time is our enemy in this game. I am a believer that we have a finite number of cycles in us to get it done before damage becomes irreversible. Don't rob yourself.

Sounds good brother much appreciated. You’re right it’s a shame because I’m relatively new to higher doses of gear and I fucking love it lol but also don’t wanna croak too early im
Willing to shave some years off but not 20 lol

 

[adrenalytic]

Ya man, make every blast count. Pull back when bloodwork and BP start trending in the wrong direction. In the future, I would try to plan blasts around doctor visits. Like start a cycle the day after a visit so you won't have to see him for at least 4-6 months.

 

[DazDillinger]

Ya man, make every blast count. Pull back when bloodwork and BP start trending in the wrong direction. In the future, I would try to plan blasts around doctor visits. Like start a cycle the day after a visit so you won't have to see him for at least 4-6 months.

Yeah dude definitely agree I always bump the dose after the visit but this last go around i waited 2 2 1/2 months too long to go full blast. Won’t happen next time I might have fully loaded syringes in the car when I walk out the door lol