low dose tren ace experiment

[dudemos]

Man, this is a fun experiment! I'm also curious about Tren but scared shitless at the same time. Seeing your methodical approach makes it seem less like playing Russian roulette with my sanity. I'm definitely following along to see if you turn into a raging psycho or a ripped god... or maybe just stay the same, haha! Keep us updated!

 

[BigDadd7]

Well I am past 100mg/week now- 35x7=245mg/week. The original plan was to stop at 300, not thinking I’d even get close. Maybe it is altering my brain chemistry more than I realize because 50/day seems like a really nice round number that’s easy to measure dunno if I’ll go to 350 or not.

At this point I’m kind of transitioning from expecting immediate nasty sides. I’m now wondering if I’ll see discomfort creep in as the poison builds up, and if there will be time to back off if I do before the 4-6 week planned max run ends and see if that cures them or if it’s the buildup that brings them on.

I can say that today was the first day I felt different in the gym. It was leg day and my lifts had a strange quality. It wasn’t like I went to squat like my normal and threw the barbell through the roof by mistake. It was more like I did the weights I usually lift, and felt the reps slow down as failure approached like normal.

I’d grind out that last one that I could get with good form, but then instead of being done my brain was like “fuck that bitch ass weight. You can lift it like five more times.” Then I did. And confidently like almost if I took 90 sec break not 3 sec.

So despite only having strung together a few years dedicated lifting recently after a long stretch I’m like an intermediate lifter I think. I do know how to lift hard and while I don’t try to kill myself to the point where I need extra rest days I’m also not a ‘reps in reserve’ guy. I try to get to failure around 6-12 on most moves. Some leg stuff 15-20 but I also like drop sets to finish sometimes.

The reason I’m saying all that is to provide context. On an NPP cycle I get stronger and recover faster and can sometimes double my recoverable stimulus. That feels different than this though- NPP the strength was just there, like an old 5 rep max turns into 8 and easy work.

I’ve read that tren has a strength component but also a cns or mind/muscle thing, or maybe it just makes you dumb and aggressive enough to just believe you can do it then you do it.

Leg day last week felt normal and I was the normal slightly crippled with doms for a few days. I’m really curious to see if these extra reps were just my drug addled brain pushing me super hard, or if the drug addled body will actually brush it off and want to do it again in a day or two? Or will I be skipping accessory hammies & calves on arm day because I destroyed them today?

Anyway, no godlike feeling, no irritability or short fuse, bedroom is lively, meal prep is done for the week and my chicken & beef jerky came out bangin.

I'm glad it's working out for you. I was good at 350, until everything fell apart.

 

[Mfras]

Man, this is a fun experiment! I'm also curious about Tren but scared shitless at the same time. Seeing your methodical approach makes it seem less like playing Russian roulette with my sanity. I'm definitely following along to see if you turn into a raging psycho or a ripped god... or maybe just stay the same, haha! Keep us updated!

Well I’m a large dude 6’ 3” and dexa has me at 210 lean mass and 17% fat these days. I’m not convinced it’ll work out to be true but for now the goal is to lose the last 25lbs to hit 10% on the dexa then maintain for a bit. 253 right now, goal weight at or below 230lbs.

But between being thick my whole life, then crossing the line to super fat but not morbidly obese because of my large frame at 355 before I started lifting and cutting, and having an overdeveloped lower body and atrophied upper and arms from fucked up skeletal motorcycle wreck injuries I’ll never be a ripped god.

And I’m the first one to say that I’m too fat to be blasting right now- this is just supposed to be an experiment to assess my tolerance to the nastiest compound I never tried and always wanted to. Right now it’s looking so far like I could play with tren again in the future. My plan though is to finish leaning out, enjoy the summer on TRT, and throw a couple blasts in next year to fill some loose skin back out some. I like NPP and know I can blast it modestly with good results and minimal damage. If I run into bad discomfort and drop the tren in the next couple weeks I might not bother with bloodwork but if I go a full 4-6 weeks and feel pretty good I’ll get a full panel and see how bad my health markers got.

But yeah this feels less like russian roulette with a revolver and more like the game where you spread your hand on the table then start ramping up the speed of stabbing between your fingers.

 

[Cyp180]

Howdy mate, Enjoy this exp.

 

[atruse]

I think we’re past the “low dose” part of the experiment lol

Tread lightly from here you’re only 3 weeks on…..

 

[Guzmanus]

Jumping in to say, this tren talk is wild! I'm loving the slow and steady approach some of you guys are taking. All those horror stories had me scared stiff, but hearing about manageable doses and careful increases makes it sound almost…reasonable? Still probably won't touch it anytime soon, but it's good to know there's a way to experiment without going completely off the rails. Keep us posted on those updates!

 

[Mfras]

Current “physique”. And one at my fattest a few years ago. Benching 225, 52” chest above the titty fat. 20” calves lean & vascular, 16.5” biceps. Belly almost gone but spare tire still there.

I’m proud of how far I’ve come but other than tightly controlling my diet and training I have nothing in common physically with an aesthetic bodybuilder.

But yeah- full disclosure, honesty, harm reduction. Nothing to hide and no bragging just ugly truth

Kinda curious if I do end up staying on the tren long enough for visual changes. My recomp progress in the past couple years has averaged 1lb fat or a little more per week and around 0.15 lbs lean tissue gain per week- newby gains and 2-300T cruise.

 

[Mfras]

I think we’re past the “low dose” part of the experiment lol

Tread lightly from here you’re only 3 weeks on…..

Yes sir. I really was convinced that bad things would happen fast. Kind of actually more nervous now that I’ll have a reeeeaaly good time on it- don’t want to lean on it heavy in the future even if it ends up feeling like not a big deal.

I look at all this PED stuff like swimming in the ocean. I’m a strong swimmer and know how to be safe & smart, but also lost a dear friend to a riptide. Respect and caution.

 

[Cyp180]

You are not a youngster anymore, so watch out with higher dosing/ sides and recovery mate

 

[Mfras]

You are not a youngster anymore, so watch out with higher dosing/ sides and recovery mate

Nope I had premature gray but 50 is around the corner. My PED career will be short but TRT is a commitment. I honestly expected to tap out way before now on this experiment but also have zero interest in ever running tren high. Might not ever play with it again, but so far there isn’t anything to report except vague feelings that I might get heartburn that never really ends up showing up.

 

[Mfras]

I'm glad it's working out for you. I was good at 350, until everything fell apart.

Hi Bigdadd7

Always enjoy your content here. I tried to be a big boy and searched threads with the word “tren” posted by you instead of asking for a spoon feed. Found a bunch of times you said “100mg/week no sides decent results” type stuff, some stuff in early Nov when you were maybe pinning 50mg primal tren E with no pip? and a few comedy jabs when you were on tren about hot mustachioed thick girls.

But now I’m reading your post here and wondering if I didn’t dig deep enough- was “jealousy and rage” the demon that popped up on your shoulder?

Not looking to dig into your personal life, more like curious what ester, dose, and duration summoned the demons for you.

Cheers and honestly appreciate the warning- I’m not over here with a labcoat and a clipboard, and none of this shit is safe, but I’m not on team YOLO.

 

[Burly]

I did 76mg Hex EOD with no sides. Success old and grey as myself soon to be grey addonis

 

[BigDadd7]

Hi Bigdadd7

Always enjoy your content here. I tried to be a big boy and searched threads with the word “tren” posted by you instead of asking for a spoon feed. Found a bunch of times you said “100mg/week no sides decent results” type stuff, some stuff in early Nov when you were maybe pinning 50mg primal tren E with no pip? and a few comedy jabs when you were on tren about hot mustachioed thick girls.

But now I’m reading your post here and wondering if I didn’t dig deep enough- was “jealousy and rage” the demon that popped up on your shoulder?

Not looking to dig into your personal life, more like curious what ester, dose, and duration summoned the demons for you.

Cheers and honestly appreciate the warning- I’m not over here with a labcoat and a clipboard, and none of this shit is safe, but I’m not on team YOLO.

Yes, jealousy and rage, along with paranoia, at 350 E. I didn't realize it until it was already a problem. I really blew it with a good woman back then. Almost ten years later, I'm now running 2x50 E with none of the negatives.

Still nothing wrong with a thick girl, but I'll skip the mustache.

 

[hellerhiwater]

Yes, jealousy and rage, along with paranoia, at 350 E. I didn't realize it until it was already a problem. I really blew it with a good woman back then. Almost ten years later, I'm now running 2x50 E with none of the negatives.

Still nothing wrong with a thick girl, but I'll skip the mustache.

ive seen this tren jealousy referenced a bajillion times, and i dont fully understand it.

is it related to the paranoia and you just think your lady is like secretly cheating? or is it more like "hey pal dont breathe the same air as her!"

or i guess does it apply to like all things? like you feel jealous someone else is using your favorite gym machine?

genuine questions, not trying to be facetious

 

[BigDadd7]

ive seen this tren jealousy referenced a bajillion times, and i dont fully understand it.

is it related to the paranoia and you just think your lady is like secretly cheating? or is it more like "hey pal dont breathe the same air as her!"

or i guess does it apply to like all things? like you feel jealous someone else is using your favorite gym machine?

genuine questions, not trying to be facetious

A little bit of everything.

 

[RockyP]

19-nor’s are particularly psychoactive substances. Important not to forget that.