A cry for help - Extreme pip after using test propionate 200mg/ml

[SeriosReborn]

Complete newbie here, started my first cycle 4 days ago. Have been doing everyday injections 0.2 ml which is 40 mg of Test prop 200mg/ml vial. First few hours it does not hurt at all but the next day, it feels as if someone stabbed me or shot me with a gun in that muscle. How do I deal with this pip? Is it common?

 

[BendigoShafter]

Where are you injecting and what size needle?

 

[SeriosReborn]

Where are you injecting and what size needle?

27g, 1 inch. delts IM , IM Vg and stomach subq

 

[trtchin]

Dont use high concentration gear subq. And yes test p @ 200 is high concentration.

Try with IM you may still get pip. Otherwise just use regular test p 100.

Also read the site rules and make an intro post.

 

[cousinmuscles]

Dilute to 50mg/ml or even 40mg/ml and inject a full ml instead.

Propionate hurts, I believe when the ester gets dissolved you have propionic acid as a byproduct, which causes a lot of pain.

Also, unless you really need it, don't use propionate.

 

[Burly]

Why these high dose per ml ?
Pharma is 100mg/ml. Best is to use what pharma grade makes. (Cyp200-E250-U250-Prop 100)

 

[SeriosReborn]

Dilute to 50mg/ml or even 40mg/ml and inject a full ml instead.

Propionate hurts, I believe when the ester gets dissolved you have propionic acid as a byproduct, which causes a lot of pain.

Also, unless you really need it, don't use propionate.

I do not really mind a simple pip that is sore, but this pip is crippling. I dont really know where to find a supplier with such dilutions, the only supplier I know has 100ml/mg dilution. I moght try that.

Dont use high concentration gear subq. And yes test p @ 200 is high concentration.

Try with IM you may still get pip. Otherwise just use regular test p 100.

Also read the site rules and make an intro post.

I hope regular test p 100 helps me. Should I order it in mct or gso

 

[SeriosReborn]

Why these high dose per ml ?
Pharma is 100mg/ml. Best is to use what pharma grade makes. (Cyp200-E250-U250-Prop 100)

I am a complete newbie and I thought i am getting more bang for my buck..

 

[cousinmuscles]

I do not really mind a simple pip that is sore, but this pip is crippling. I dont really know where to find a supplier with such dilutions, the only supplier I know has 100ml/mg dilution. I moght try that.

I hope regular test p 100 helps me. Should I order it in mct or gso

You can buy the carrier oil itself, some syringes and syringe filters. Draw up the oil in a syringe, attach syringe to .22 micron syringe filter and syringe filter to needle, and inject into presealed sterile vials. Fill vial with the correct proportions of your 200mg/ml prop and oil, e.g. 25% test prop oil and 75% carrier oil to get 50mg/ml. Put new vial on a heater to help it mix well.

MCT or GSO, up to your preference. GSO is thicker and may help lessen the pain because it will dissolve a little slower. Some have bad reactions to MCT. Try and see.

 

[Zebedee]

Why these high dose per ml ?
Pharma is 100mg/ml. Best is to use what pharma grade makes. (Cyp200-E250-U250-Prop 100)

Genuine pharma prop intended for medicinal use is 50mg/ml. Given its half-life, it makes no sense for it to be made higher than that for TRT.

 

[BP_6]

Test prop 200mg/ml<----- That is your problem right there. Nothing else needs to be said.

 

[Photon]

Complete newbie here, started my first cycle 4 days ago.

Lesson learnt, you don't start with high concentration gear for your first cycle.

For first cycle i usually recommend TC 200/250.

Which country?
You can get pharma MCT to dilute it but it seems like medlabsupply (USA) is completely sold out.

 

[thejumpingsheep]

Lesson here is be sure you know what you are doing before you start. Nothing anyone can do for you at this point. Only a doctor with medical grade pain killers can help.

Lots of newbie mistakes:

1 - Test-P, even at lower concentration, is well known to give PIP. Plenty of folks here have said so.
2- No idea what normal test-p concentrations are.
3 - Test-P is rather potent. Going from 0.2mL to 1.0mL without gradual increase is asinine.
4 - Not knowing how to dilute is a big red flag that you aren't ready.
5 - No stats on you and no idea what your history is.

Though this forum is brutal on low effort newbies, some of those idiots post for help BEFORE they pin. They get roasted, but at least they get an honest opinion which may prevent what happened to you here.

Live and learn. I know plenty of folks who have to do everything in life the hard way.

 

[SeriosReborn]

Test prop 200mg/ml<----- That is your problem right there. Nothing else needs to be said.

Lesson learnt, you don't start with high concentration gear for your first cycle.

For first cycle i usually recommend TC 200/250.

Which country?
You can get pharma MCT to dilute it but it seems like medlabsupply (USA) is completely sold out.

Lesson here is be sure you know what you are doing before you start. Nothing anyone can do for you at this point. Only a doctor with medical grade pain killers can help.

Lots of newbie mistakes:

1 - Test-P, even at lower concentration, is well known to give PIP. Plenty of folks here have said so.
2- No idea what normal test-p concentrations are.
3 - Test-P is rather potent. Going from 0.2mL to 1.0mL without gradual increase is asinine.
4 - Not knowing how to dilute is a big red flag that you aren't ready.
5 - No stats on you and no idea what your history is.

Though this forum is brutal on low effort newbies, some of those idiots post for help BEFORE they pin. They get roasted, but at least they get an honest opinion which may prevent what happened to you here.

Live and learn. I know plenty of folks who have to do everything in life the hard way.

Lesson learned , m not going high concentration again.

I placed an order for test p 100mg/ml and test c 250mg/ml. They might arrive in 3/4 days.

My question is, i stopped using the test p 200mg/ml yday on my 4th pin, do you think my natural test production has shut down and I will feel like shit till the new stuff arrives? Or am i okay?

 

[Photon]

Lesson learned , m not going high concentration again.

I placed an order for test p 100mg/ml and test c 250mg/ml. They might arrive in 3/4 days.

My question is, i stopped using the test p 200mg/ml yday on my 4th pin, do you think my natural test production has shut down and I will feel like shit till the new stuff arrives? Or am i okay?

Shut down yes, probably on your first pin.
Feel like shit, maybe on day 4 or 5.

Half life is 1d, so 1x5=5 days.
It'll be (almost)completely out of your body by day 5.

 

[thejumpingsheep]

Lesson learned , m not going high concentration again.

I placed an order for test p 100mg/ml and test c 250mg/ml. They might arrive in 3/4 days.

My question is, i stopped using the test p 200mg/ml yday on my 4th pin, do you think my natural test production has shut down and I will feel like shit till the new stuff arrives? Or am i okay?

Shut down? Yes. But I think you are more worried about whether or not this is long term and needs chemical PCT? Highly unlikely. Odds are if you just stop things should go back to normal in a short time given short half life.

 

[Matsauce6]

Lol no you wont be shut down from 4 shots

 

[SeriosReborn]

Lol no you wont be shut down from 4 shots

Thats what i think… i dont think 4 shots of barely 140 mg total test will shut me doen

 

[delay3s]

I'd keep pinning until your new oils get in. Whenever I have something with bad pip gotta pin it in the glutes. I usually pin there anyways but if I pin something with bad pip in my delts or lats everything gets fucked and it severely effects my workouts. With a painful glute I can get by fine

 

[Matsauce6]

Bro… just stop pinning until you get your test e or cyp or whatever you will be perfectly fuckin fine… its ruining your fucking life the pip stop playing around