HGH cloudy or good?

[Getleanordie]

Hello! Would appreciate for some input here? There is so much knowledge on these forums.

Just reconstituted first time hgh and I am not sure if it went bad or not. I used pharma sterile water 2ml for 41iu hgh from QSC. Then I added 30min later one more ml when I read here about this from @Ghoul. I added the first 2ml with 30g needle and the pressure might have been too high. Little bit went first straight to powder.

Post in thread 'Chinese HGH - Clear or Cloudy'

Oct 28, 2025

And just to be completely open
This is a 36ui with 3.6ml
Received at the same time
Perfectly clear
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To be fair, a small enough amount of water to peptide ratio will always cause aggregation. No commercial pharma formulation is higher than 15iu/ml without special anti-aggregation ingredients (like polyaxamer 188), to prevent that from happening, allowing high concentrations of rHGH to be used:



It’s often those ingredients that prevent degradation in reconstituted form (like pens), that make it falsely appear to have a lower “purity” than UGL, btw...

• Ghoul

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So the ready recon hgh kinda looks ok in basic lighting but when look straight into light you can see its not perfectly clear. The vial with little less water is chinese bac (have not used it) for reference and the other is recon IPA. Vial with some bubbles on top is the HGH.Thinking that maybe the problem was the pressure? Or has there been some issues with hgh from QSC?

 

[Getleanordie]

I made a new batch this time using 25g needle and putting air in the hgh vial before adding sterile water. Injected the water super slow one drop at a time. Result is the same. There are these bits floating in it. Like white small strings or something when looked at a better angle.

 

[hard_gains]

I'm a nobody so don't listen to me. But pretty sure there's been complaints about cloudy gh. Pretty sure qsc, hyb, and wbb have had cloudy gh at one point. Especially h36 yellow caps. Lots of speculation that it's old stock from when all the busts went down in China. Also some people think the Chinese bac water is garbage and that could cause it. Poor mixing habits perhaps.

If you mixed up a few vials and they turned out clear I would assume you properly mixed them and the back is okay. But like you said the pressure could of caused the issue.

There are a lot of rabbit holes for what caused it.

Options
Send it for testing to yano.

Filter it and pin it. And do some blood work to test your igf 1.

Throw it away and do better research so that way you have better odds of getting a more solid product.

 

[DeodatoFulci]

I would personally add 3ml of bac water to a 41iu vial.

 

[Getleanordie]

I'm a nobody so don't listen to me. But pretty sure there's been complaints about cloudy gh. Pretty sure qsc, hyb, and wbb have had cloudy gh at one point. Especially h36 yellow caps. Lots of speculation that it's old stock from when all the busts went down in China. Also some people think the Chinese bac water is garbage and that could cause it. Poor mixing habits perhaps.

If you mixed up a few vials and they turned out clear I would assume you properly mixed them and the back is okay. But like you said the pressure could of caused the issue.

There are a lot of rabbit holes for what caused it.

Options
Send it for testing to yano.

Filter it and pin it. And do some blood work to test your igf 1.

Throw it away and do better research so that way you have better odds of getting a more solid product.

Yeah it was the purple cap batch.
I didnt use chinese bac. I mixed with pharma sterile water that is meant for injection use for humans. So my water is not the problem. And it seems also that the pressure wasn’t either.
I just got some 0,22um pes filters from a friend and used it for one of them. But its weird that it didn’t filter everything from the hgh vial. Still white flings in it. Maybe they were bad quality filter or something?

I took some new pics with filtered on the right and then on the second picture there is for reference chinese bac.
In normal light you would even notice there is something wrong with them. Only wheb you put light through underneath. Don’t know how many others do that to their hgh and dont maybe notice.

 

[V.primal]

It should be clear after filtering.
What brand of filter is it?
If you plan on using it within one day, sterile water is fine, any longer than a day you should use bac water

 

[Getleanordie]

It should be clear after filtering.
What brand of filter is it?
If you plan on using it within one day, sterile water is fine, any longer than a day you should use bac water

Not sure what brand but here is pictures if you can tell?
Is there a technique to pushing through? Did watch some videos and did the same.

Yeah I know the BAC discussion. I’ll go with the Janoshik version and I am super carefull when drawing. In Europe BAC is very difficult or impossible to get and I dont trust the chinese BAC.
I use peptides with sterile water and have not gotten any reaction after 3 weeks. Thats usually the max period I keep peptides. That said I on a weekly basis try to find ways of buying Hospira. I used to have a source, but it went down.

 

[Ghoul]

Let’s not forget what the significance of “cloudy” is. Reduced efficacy is the least of it, and less than you might expect. Perhaps a few percent, low single digits,

And plenty of degradation can take place that reconstitutes perfectly clear, to the eye.

That’s important, The eye is no reliable way to detect aggregates. Depending on conditions, aggregates tend to form to a certain size range and stabilize. Cloudy means they 100um+. But the VAST majority of rHGH aggregates are typically much smaller and give that “clear” vial everyone’s hoping for, when in reality it could be much worse than the cloudiest vial you’ve ever seen.

So with that in mind, along with the high rate of bacterial contamination and particulates from trash vials**, cloudy or not, just filter it, and get on with your life. There’s no reason to believe clear UGL vials are any safer than cloudy. A filtered cloudy vial is arguably far lower risk than a clear vial that isn’t.

Once filtered, they’re essentially equal.


**the “strings” aka fibrils, indicate the presence of zinc contamination. Either from the stopper or the glass (zinc is used as a lubricant in glass molds). Pharma grade vials would never allow this. Just one example of what’s probably a soup of chem contamination.

 

[Getleanordie]

Let’s not forget what the significance of “cloudy” is. Reduced efficacy is the least of it, and less than you might expect. Perhaps a few percent, low single digits,

And plenty of degradation can take place that reconstitutes perfectly clear, to the eye.

That’s important, The eye is no reliable way to detect aggregates. Depending on conditions, aggregates tend to form to a certain size range and stabilize. Cloudy means they 100um+. But the VAST majority of rHGH aggregates are typically much smaller and give that “clear” vial everyone’s hoping for, when in reality it could be much worse than the cloudiest vial you’ve ever seen.

So with that in mind, along with the high rate of bacterial contamination and particulates from trash vials**, cloudy or not, just filter it, and get on with your life. There’s no reason to believe clear UGL vials are any safer than cloudy. A filtered cloudy vial is arguably far lower risk than a clear vial that isn’t.

Once filtered, they’re essentially equal.


**the “strings” aka fibrils, indicate the presence of zinc contamination. Either from the stopper or the glass (zinc is used as a lubricant in glass molds). Pharma grade vials would never allow this. Just one example of what’s probably a soup of chem contamination.

Thanks and interesting about the looks not making a big differance.

I decided to filter it a second time. This time i pushed even slower. All of the white stings went away. Now its pretty clear of those at least.

I guess HGH can withstand 2 filtrations without it taken too much of a hit?

 

[Ghoul]

Thanks and interesting about the looks not making a big differance.

I decided to filter it a second time. This time i pushed even slower. All of the white stings went away. Now its pretty clear of those at least.

I guess HGH can withstand 2 filtrations without it taken too much of a hit?
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This was carefully studied by the scientist who’s one of the pioneers in pharma protein drug development.

As he points out in the excerpt below, rHGH is filtered multiple times during manufacture (same .22um pore size). After filtering with common syringe filters, there was no damage and no meaningful loss of protein to the filter. (Other than holdup volume, the liquid trapped in the filter housing you can purge with air. Only May be worth the effort with 25mm, not 13mm filters.

For reference, a single pore in a .22um filter membrane is 2700 times the size of a rHGH molecule.

 

[Thriso]

Thanks and interesting about the looks not making a big differance.

I decided to filter it a second time. This time i pushed even slower. All of the white stings went away. Now its pretty clear of those at least.

I guess HGH can withstand 2 filtrations without it taken too much of a hit?
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I just got 3 kits of GH and so far 6 vials have looked exactly like yours before and after filtering. I also tried filtering twice on one of the vials. I don’t feel great about it, but I have been using it with no issues. If I do even 1iu too much I get the hand tingles so I don’t think it’s lost potency.