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[RockyP]

Same here. But opposite results. I ran Mast around 200-225mg along with 300T for about 16 weeks and it did fuck all for me. Literally the only compound I’ve ever tried that had zero noticeable effects. Meanwhile I can run Primo at 100-200mgs with same amount of Test and see incredible strength gains.

Do you recall your Body composition? The urban legend on mast is true, meaning that the hardening / drying out look is totally lost unless you’re down at 10-12% bf or less.

 

[Volmp9]

Do you recall your Body composition? The urban legend on mast is true, meaning that the hardening / drying out look is totally lost unless you’re down at 10-12% bf or less.

I was on a cut and went from 17% down to 10% currently

 

[RockyP]

I was on a cut and went from 17% down to 10% currently

And you didn’t experience increased vascularity / muscle hardness / density from the mast? Perhaps the dosage was too low for you? But I get those effects, albeit not as strongly, when I’ve added 200 mast to a 200 test cruise. Much more prominent at twice the dosage

 

[New2theGame!!]

And you didn’t experience increased vascularity / muscle hardness / density from the mast? Perhaps the dosage was too low for you? But I get those effects, albeit not as strongly, when I’ve added 200 mast to a 200 test cruise. Much more prominent at twice the dosage

The vascularity def happens, even if not at extremely low bf%

 

[Volmp9]

I was on a cut and went from 17% down to 10% current

And you didn’t experience increased vascularity / muscle hardness / density from the mast? Perhaps the dosage was too low for you? But I get those effects, albeit not as strongly, when I’ve added 200 mast to a 200 test cruise. Much more prominent at twice the dosage

i‘m sorry Rocky, I was just waking up when I posted and didn’t realize that I answered a question that you had asked someone else

 

[Oldhand]

Same here. But opposite results. I ran Mast around 200-225mg along with 300T for about 16 weeks and it did fuck all for me. Literally the only compound I’ve ever tried that had zero noticeable effects. Meanwhile I can run Primo at 100-200mgs with same amount of Test and see incredible strength gains.

Crazy how one things work differently in everyone. For me Mast does great things cosmetically, so I save it for cuts. I don’t use it for any other purpose, but man…. Nothing I’ve found gives the same look mast can achieve

 

[RockyP]

FWIW I believe the clinical dose of mast for females when it was used for breast cancer was 400/week. I don’t know if that has an applicability to those of us using it for our purposes, but it’s a (potentially useless) data point nonetheless

 

[Yonith]

This is taking the following from @Primal_Pharma

Test E 250 MCT - .3mL x2 weekly (150mg)
Deca 250 MCT - .1ml x2 weekly (50mg)

I was very surprised to see Total Test that high but I’m not complaining.

 

[Volmp9]

This is taking the following from @Primal_Pharma

Test E 250 MCT - .3mL x2 weekly (150mg)
Deca 250 MCT - .1ml x2 weekly (50mg)

I was very surprised to see Total Test that high but I’m not complaining.

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When were your bloods taken versus your last injection? 150 mg putting you over 1500 is pretty amazing. Estradiol looks in a good range also for that test level, are you taking any AI

 

[Rawnjohnson]

This is taking the following from @Primal_Pharma

Test E 250 MCT - .3mL x2 weekly (150mg)
Deca 250 MCT - .1ml x2 weekly (50mg)

I was very surprised to see Total Test that high but I’m not complaining.

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I’d be more concerned with that egfr and LDL than the test. Time to get on astragalus and pita.

 

[FatDan]

This is taking the following from @Primal_Pharma

Test E 250 MCT - .3mL x2 weekly (150mg)
Deca 250 MCT - .1ml x2 weekly (50mg)

I was very surprised to see Total Test that high but I’m not complaining.

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Nandrolone inflates Testosterone on standard tests. Much like Tren inflates E2 on non ultra sensitive tests

 

[New2theGame!!]

Should be a memo that when posting blood results to tell when blood was drawn and when last pin was. Makes a big difference.

 

[Dial It In]

Should be a memo that when posting blood results to tell when blood was drawn and when last pin was. Makes a big difference.

They would if they’d take the time to look around and see how it’s been done by a many members

 

[New2theGame!!]

They would if they’d take the time to look around and see how it’s been done by a many members

Like “thumbs up”

 

[RockyP]

This is taking the following from @Primal_Pharma

Test E 250 MCT - .3mL x2 weekly (150mg)
Deca 250 MCT - .1ml x2 weekly (50mg)

I was very surprised to see Total Test that high but I’m not complaining.

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What’s the diet like? That A1c is a little higher than you’d like. And the LDL has to come way down. These are low dosages.

 

[Yonith]

Should have noted that last shot was on the 18th (Thurs) with blood drawn on the 22nd (Mon).

I have a family history of type 2 diabetes, and I definitely enjoy more sweets than I should. Improving my egfr, a1c, and LDL are my new focus.

 

[Dial It In]

Should have noted that last shot was on the 18th (Thurs) with blood drawn on the 22nd (Mon).

I have a family history of type 2 diabetes, and I definitely enjoy more sweets than I should. Improving my egfr, a1c, and LDL are my new focus.

Then get off gear. If your test is shot then TRT only. You obviously need to learn how to get more disciplined considering you already have a family history of issues. Get your diet correct then try again. Everyone wants to run gear but it doesnt overcome crap diet and just makes things worse.

 

[Yonith]

Then get off gear. If your test is shot then TRT only. You obviously need to learn how to get more disciplined considering you already have a family history of issues. Get your diet correct then try again. Everyone wants to run gear but it doesnt overcome crap diet and just makes things worse.

 

[Dial It In]

Not sure if that’s sarcasm or not but if it is then good luck and I’ll let you be. But it also tells everyone else giving you advice they are wasting their time.

 

[Ghoul]

Should have noted that last shot was on the 18th (Thurs) with blood drawn on the 22nd (Mon).

I have a family history of type 2 diabetes, and I definitely enjoy more sweets than I should. Improving my egfr, a1c, and LDL are my new focus.

It’s never too late to turn that stuff around, but the sooner the better the long term benefits will be, like compound interest.

Cardiovascular disease is the reaper that’s stalking you, like it is for most people, and between that LDL, family history of diabetes, and gear use you’re squarely in the “high risk” category that even conservative guidelines would advise targeting <55 LDL.

Exercise is important, but you’ve obviously got that covered.

Diet matters, but I’m going to go against the grain here and point out genetics plays the largest role in both diabetes and cardiovascular disease, by far.

Even if you kept doing exactly what you’re doing, the optimal modern pharma protocol is capable of nearly disconnecting diet from cardiovascular and to a lesser extent diabetes risk. It may offend someone’s sensibilities, but it’s objectively true.

So don’t wait until your diet is dialed in to start on compounds to optimize your lipids, BP, and get that A1C down. Each will have a positive crossover impact.

In other words, take advantage of modern pharmaceutical science to “cheat” your way to a longer, healthier life.

Also, next test get Lp(A) and HS-CRP checked.