PUBLIC HEALTH & FRAUD ALERT PRIMAL PHARMA US DOMESTIC: A Stanford Chemist's Scientific Autopsy of Primal Pharma's Contaminated & Counterfeit Products

[gainslol]

He won silver, not gold and isn’t American

Got it, so that makes it even less likely to be him then.

 

[Whistles77]

Got it, so that makes it even less likely to be him then.

Why not? He's also not a chemist at Stanford now, but a theoretical physicist. Everything i see is consistent with mental illness and saying whatever is convenient to his narrative.

 

[jan912]

This was edited with a swelling tool and some kind of photo editor I can see that instantaneously


Now I'm not going to lie and say you didn't get an infection because I unironically I also got an infection from primla pharma tren E 400 ( likely too high of a concentration from me but it came from the time when it was proven that there was some kind of weird leeching crap in it)

Not doubting you got something wrong but I will say you're being a little bit dishonest and it's kind of taken away your credibility ...... I could zoom in on this instantly and see the artifacts of the swelling too...


Weird way to say I just want my money back bro





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Just a reference this is a picture I took months ago or I forgot how long ago when I bought his tren e I have nothing against him. But it did put me in the hospital a little and I had to take anti biotics. I'm only saying this with zero bias this is just what I experience but I am going to call you out when I see it and I can zoom in on that and know that's been f****** altered with.



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Yeah I got a pale ass butt sue me


But yeah why is this chatgpt to hell and back and why did you swell up your bumb with what appears to be liquify tool?


Just ask for your money back and wait till he has the time to give it to you. This is illegal drugs and he's not obligated to refund you right then and there. He will get to you. He probably got super busy. These vendors are often busting their ass getting packs out and working overtime on products. This is a cringe post .

What did you tell the hospital and what antibiotics did they have you on? Similar situation has happened to me and I foolishly avoided treatment due to the medical professionals being judgemental pricks.

 

[The Answ3r]

Alright, tinfoil hat on, purely for entertainment… or maybe not.

If you squint a little, OP and @Walter Hype have suspiciously similar builds. Same proportions, same posture, same “I lift but also spend too much time arguing on forums” physique. And somehow both have crossed paths with Primal. Coincidence? Maybe. A funny one, though.

Especially considering Walter Hype has openly mentioned he wants to become a vendor here at some point. Which makes the timing, the passion, and the target choice at least… interesting.

Theory #1: controlled opposition. Spin up a “random guy” account, stir some drama around the biggest vendor, let the thread explode, then quietly observe the chaos.

Theory #2: future vendor soft launch. Test the waters, read the room, see who panics, who defends, and who simps.

Theory #3: classic misdirection. Everyone arguing about contamination while something else is being lined up offstage.

And if you really zoom in… maybe a mole added here, one removed there, just enough Photoshop to stay low-key. Smart. Very smart.

Same build, different account. Totally unrelated, obviously. Just one of those classic forum coincidences…

 

[Walter Hype]

Alright, tinfoil hat on, purely for entertainment… or maybe not.

If you squint a little, OP and @Walter Hype have suspiciously similar builds. Same proportions, same posture, same “I lift but also spend too much time arguing on forums” physique. And somehow both have crossed paths with Primal. Coincidence? Maybe. A funny one, though.

Especially considering Walter Hype has openly mentioned he wants to become a vendor here at some point. Which makes the timing, the passion, and the target choice at least… interesting.

Theory #1: controlled opposition. Spin up a “random guy” account, stir some drama around the biggest vendor, let the thread explode, then quietly observe the chaos.

Theory #2: future vendor soft launch. Test the waters, read the room, see who panics, who defends, and who simps.

Theory #3: classic misdirection. Everyone arguing about contamination while something else is being lined up offstage.

And if you really zoom in… maybe a mole added here, one removed there, just enough Photoshop to stay low-key. Smart. Very smart.

Same build, different account. Totally unrelated, obviously. Just one of those classic forum coincidences…

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Shut yo sctizo ass up I'm jacked as fuck and that's my job to be sctizo and crazy in this place. Why you stealing my style.

 

[Walter Hype]

Alright, tinfoil hat on, purely for entertainment… or maybe not.

If you squint a little, OP and @Walter Hype have suspiciously similar builds. Same proportions, same posture, same “I lift but also spend too much time arguing on forums” physique. And somehow both have crossed paths with Primal. Coincidence? Maybe. A funny one, though.

Especially considering Walter Hype has openly mentioned he wants to become a vendor here at some point. Which makes the timing, the passion, and the target choice at least… interesting.

Theory #1: controlled opposition. Spin up a “random guy” account, stir some drama around the biggest vendor, let the thread explode, then quietly observe the chaos.

Theory #2: future vendor soft launch. Test the waters, read the room, see who panics, who defends, and who simps.

Theory #3: classic misdirection. Everyone arguing about contamination while something else is being lined up offstage.

And if you really zoom in… maybe a mole added here, one removed there, just enough Photoshop to stay low-key. Smart. Very smart.

Same build, different account. Totally unrelated, obviously. Just one of those classic forum coincidences…

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Me with the suspicious body in question


Also let admin check for ip and all that jazz. You can't have alts in this place for long. Also I got an account here I got zero reasons to make a thread like this weirdo did. His ass looks fucking like herpes and disease. Kinda nasty.

I'm just pasty and white. He's like.....burnt and white. Big difference.

 

[The Answ3r]

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Me with the suspicious body in question


Also let admin check for ip and all that jazz. You can't have alts in this place for long. Also I got an account here I got zero reasons to make a thread like this weirdo did. His ass looks fucking like herpes and disease. Kinda nasty.

I'm just pasty and white. He's like.....burnt and white. Big difference.

 

[The Answ3r]

Shut yo sctizo ass up I'm jacked as fuck and that's my job to be sctizo and crazy in this place. Why you stealing my style.

All love, man. You’re doing your thing, I’m doing mine. Plenty of room in here for different flavors of crazy. Consider it mutual entertainment, not competition.

 

[Walter Hype]

All love, man. You’re doing your thing, I’m doing mine. Plenty of room in here for different flavors of crazy. Consider it mutual entertainment, not competition.

Watch your back youngblood


I might be clear Pharma but the Walter hype is always inside me

 

[MindlessWork]

Watch your back youngblood


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You are just pure hype.

 

[RocketSurge0n]

Someone show this man where the ventroglute is FFS.

I’ve had huge knots, really bad sub-Q leaks and pain so rough I couldn’t walk but I have never blamed anyone but myself. Just warm the gear up and pin a different site next time.

 

[pipo]

I didn't get it. So he injected crashed gear? Like what he showed in those pics with the vial? He actually drew from that vial looking like that, and he didn't question why it looked like that? Why didn't the other 8 vials look like that, or why don't any other vials I've seen normally look like that?

What exactly is supposed to be in the vial?

 

[Isrrike]

Why are you taking steroids when you have the Gunt of an 80 year old woman?

 

[trynagains]

I didn't get it. So he injected crashed gear? Like what he showed in those pics with the vial? He actually drew from that vial looking like that, and he didn't question why it looked like that? Why didn't the other 8 vials look like that, or why don't any other vials I've seen normally look like that?

What exactly is supposed to be in the vial?

this is one of two things, likely the latter:
1. just some moron who injected a bit of crashed gear and got booboo. Now he’s really ornery and wants Primal to pay. So he’s pretending to be a chemist. Which I mean I work with a lot of Engineers who are basically retarded. So maybe he is a retarded chemist. But still now he came up with this very bad scam and is getting shit on in the thread.

2. He is just a scammer. His entire post reads like corporate scam spam. I see it everyday. This wasn’t very well done. Looks like maybe a foreigner using ChatGPT to build a shitty story then injecting some random chemists name into the thing.

TLDR: He’s either a retarded chemist scammer or just a regular shitty scammer.

 

[Thorshammer]

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Me with the suspicious body in question


Also let admin check for ip and all that jazz. You can't have alts in this place for long. Also I got an account here I got zero reasons to make a thread like this weirdo did. His ass looks fucking like herpes and disease. Kinda nasty.

I'm just pasty and white. He's like.....burnt and white. Big difference.

Bro delete this. There are ways to remove that from your face not safe homie. Just looking out.always put on a actually mask or something digital cover ups can be removed

 

[Pounds23]

IV used a ton of primals gear I literally get zero pip from everything unused I literally can't even tell where I pinned the next day. Maybe a cpl times I was a lil sore the next day but that's on me moving the pin all around. Plus u can literally get gear out of the pharmacy that's crashed warm it up doesn't mean it's bad or a bad formulation. I'm hearing alot of bitching it's fucking winter outside and freezing expect some shit to be crashed. You can literally do everything right clean pin alc whips and still get a infection. Looks like he injected some crystals and got hella pip.

I want whatever walter is taking

 

[mikeyt84]

Brothers,


My name is Paul Haidu Gerea. I am not an anonymous poster. I am attaching my name to this analysis because the public health crisis I will detail is too severe for ambiguity.

Before I begin, let me address the obvious question: 'Why is a Stanford-trained chemist with IChO medals involved in this space?' The answer is simple: I believe in the science of human optimization, but I am deeply disillusioned with the gatekeeping and hypocrisy of the mainstream. This community exists because of a shared, rational pursuit of an edge. That pursuit is built on a fragile foundation of trust and a code of honor. We accept certain risks, but we do not accept the risk of being poisoned by incompetence or defrauded by malice. Primal Pharma has catastrophically violated that code.

This is not a customer service complaint. This is a scientific audit of a failed and dangerous operation.


PART I: ANALYSIS OF INJECTABLE CONTAMINATION & RESULTING MEDICAL EMERGENCY

Observation: An order of Testosterone and Masteron oils consistently produced severe, anomalous Post-Injection Pain (PIP), culminating in a medical crisis.

Chemical Analysis:
The Masteron vials arrived with severe crystallization (precipitation) of the drostanolone propionate ester. From a first-principles chemistry perspective, this "crashing" is an undeniable hallmark of a failed formulation. It indicates a supersaturated solution where the solute (the hormone) exceeds the carrying capacity of the solvent/oil matrix. This is typically caused by:

1. Improper Solvent Ratios: Insufficient benzyl alcohol (BA) or benzyl benzoate (BB) used to maintain the hormone's solubility.
2. Impure Raw Materials: The use of low-purity hormone powder, which has poorer solubility characteristics.
3. Carrier Oil Failure: Use of a low-quality or inappropriate carrier oil that cannot properly hold the compound in suspension.

Medical Consequence:
The injection of these unstable, contaminated solutions resulted in a predictable, severe inflammatory response. This was not standard PIP. It was characterized by extreme induration, erythema, and pyrexia, progressing to a well-defined sterile abscess with clear signs of central necrosis. This occurred systematically across all eight (8) vials and multiple, rotated injection sites (gluteal & ventrogluteal), using a flawless, single-use sterile protocol. This rules out "user error" and points directly to a high load of inflammatory contaminants (likely un-dissolved hormone micro-crystals and/or bacterial endotoxins) within the product itself.

Evidence:

• Fig. 1: High-resolution photograph of the precipitated Masteron vial.
• Fig. 2: Clinical photograph of the resulting sterile abscess. (WARNING: GRAPHIC)

PART II: ANALYSIS OF ORAL ADULTERATION & FRAUD


The systemic failure extended to the oral compounds.

• Anavar (Oxandrolone): The product was demonstrably counterfeit. It produced significant edema (water retention), a pharmacological effect antithetical to Oxandrolone. This effect is the classic signature of substitution with a cheaper, easily synthesized, and estrogenic oral steroid, likely Dianabol (Methandrostenolone). This is verifiable via a standard sulfuric acid reagent test, where Dianabol produces a characteristic deep reddish-brown color, while pure Oxandrolone yields a pale yellow or no change.
• Clenbuterol: The product was inert. The lack of any beta-2 agonist activity (no thermogenic effect, no increase in heart rate, no tremors) even at doses escalating to 120mcg/day, indicates the product contained little to no active Clenbuterol Hydrochloride. Verifying this compound requires HPLC/MS, a test that any serious lab should be conducting on every batch. Their failure to do so is an act of gross negligence.

PART III: THE COMPANY'S RESPONSE & THE FINAL LIE


When I presented this mountain of evidence to Primal Pharma privately, I was met with insults and baseless accusations. However, in their rage, they made a critical error: they capitulated and agreed to issue a full refund.

(See Fig 3-6, in particular Fig 5: Screenshot of their email, where they state "We'll issue you a full refund... send me your BTC address so I get you taken care of.")

I provided my information as requested. That was over 72 hours ago.

No refund has been sent (one can check on the blockchain that there are no transaction to the given address).

They did not just sell me a dangerous and fraudulent product. They looked me in the eye, gave me their word that they would make it right, and then they lied. Their contempt for their customers is absolute.


CONCLUSION


The evidence is overwhelming and points to a single, terrifying conclusion: Primal Pharma is a dangerous, fraudulent, and dishonorable operator. Their injectables are contaminated, their orals are counterfeit, their business practices are reprehensible, and their word is worthless.

I was fortunate that my background in science allowed me to manage my own medical crisis. The next victim may not be so lucky.

This is my analysis. This is my evidence. I am attaching my name to this warning.


Paul Haidu Gerea
LakeMerritt13@proton.me

Mwahahaha.....
Gear isn't for you.
That isn't even a proper injection site...

 

[Rido]

It's a UGL, just because they added "Pharma" to it doesn't mean it's a Phamaceutical company. Especially if it's here in the USA. They wouldn't be on here.

but the label says so,

why would anyone on the internet lie?

 

[Walter Hype]

You are just pure hupe

Certified COPE

I am the slowing climbing to be the most high quality source on the planet bar none

You don't need to trust me

It's just reality is showing me my growth is rapid and I'm growing a fan base of super fans who's addicted to the difference in my quality. This is what reality is showing me directly one to one.

This is why I have this conclusion and money is good. Orders are coming in waves. It's like a snow ball. This is my reality and I'll impose that reality to everyone. Once I make my splash here it's game over for domestic. I take notes. I adapt and I'm going to never repeat the flaws my poor fellow competitors have

 

[k710]

Surprised this thread is still here... The title needs an update

"Clown's Public Health and Fraud alert: I tried extorting money from Primal Pharma but got caught instantly. My mental health is as poor as my attempts at being a scammer."