No sides/feeling 8 IU

[iloveblondes666]

Hello, somebody already posted a similar thing in december, having no sides when starting GH at 6IU from tracy QSC, same thing here.

As a reference, I've did a few vials of GH 36 for a brief period last summer bought from SSA, I started on 4 IU and it hit like a train, next day I was sleepy and tired, and had water retention all over my body especially face and hands so I titrated down to 2 IU and still had the water retention and slight hand disconfort for a few weeks, diet was on point. Consistent PERCEIVABLE effects and side effects I had:
-really good sleep and easy to fall asleep immediately after pinning
-water retention, puffy face and hands
-forearm small hair follicle pimples
-improved mood (less anxiety)
-no more DOMS

Now, when trying the GH from QSC I decided to start on 6 IU just because I wanted to feel it strong again and to my surprise absolutely none of the effects above have appeared. Neither the good nor the bad. I've pinned 4 times now (8 IU once), from 2 different vacuumed and clear vials, carefully reconstituted. I used medical grade saline 0.9%.

I did a GH blood test today after pinning and waiting for the results, but in the meantime I still can't explain why I don't feel anything and I know your opinions, not saying it's bunk or a bad batch, just wanna know why.

I also wanna ask you guys, even if the blood test will show elevated GH levels, is it still possible my body is not utilising it properly for some reason? Or can the GH from QSC show good on a jano test but something about it be wrong, not usable? I don't know much about chemistry or making accusations this is purely a question to rule out anything and come with an aswer, cheers.

 

[Jeff nipped]

post your bloods when get it

 

[Canadianuser]

I have had the same observation. No sides on 6IU of qsc. Albeit, I never got sides from the first vendor I used either. I have gone as high has 8 IU for 3 consecutive nights and nothing. Decent sleep, but that’s it. No water, no CTS, nothing. I think some people are just lucky to not get any sides?

 

[Elektrobot]

Hello, somebody already posted a similar thing in december, having no sides when starting GH at 6IU from tracy QSC, same thing here.

As a reference, I've did a few vials of GH 36 for a brief period last summer bought from SSA, I started on 4 IU and it hit like a train, next day I was sleepy and tired, and had water retention all over my body especially face and hands so I titrated down to 2 IU and still had the water retention and slight hand disconfort for a few weeks, diet was on point. Consistent PERCEIVABLE effects and side effects I had:
-really good sleep and easy to fall asleep immediately after pinning
-water retention, puffy face and hands
-forearm small hair follicle pimples
-improved mood (less anxiety)
-no more DOMS

Now, when trying the GH from QSC I decided to start on 6 IU just because I wanted to feel it strong again and to my surprise absolutely none of the effects above have appeared. Neither the good nor the bad. I've pinned 4 times now (8 IU once), from 2 different vacuumed and clear vials, carefully reconstituted. I used medical grade saline 0.9%.

I did a GH blood test today after pinning and waiting for the results, but in the meantime I still can't explain why I don't feel anything and I know your opinions, not saying it's bunk or a bad batch, just wanna know why.

I also wanna ask you guys, even if the blood test will show elevated GH levels, is it still possible my body is not utilising it properly for some reason? Or can the GH from QSC show good on a jano test but something about it be wrong, not usable? I don't know much about chemistry or making accusations this is purely a question to rule out anything and come with an aswer, cheers.

The hgh doesn't start working until you read the new member rules and etiquette and post your new member introduction like you're supposed to

In your introduction, tell us about your self, your age, height, weight, bodyfat, your goals, your training, your food plan..........

After you do that, your hgh will start working

 

[iloveblondes666]

The hgh doesn't start working until you read the new member rules and etiquette and post your new member introduction like you're supposed to

In your introduction, tell us about your self, your age, height, weight, bodyfat, your goals, your training, your food plan..........

After you do that, your hgh will start working

25, 183 cm, 90KG, 18ish %, training daily personal split, I don't count calories and only eat whole meals made at home, get about 160+ g of protein a day, lots of healthy fats and carbs also, GH goals: mainly joint health and sleep, and will also start a cut soon.

 

[Elektrobot]

Well, you did it wrong. But what you wrote helps me understand why you couldn't figure out how to do it right.

I don't count calories

This is the dumbest thing you could have written.

lots of healthy fats

Why are you eating lots of fats? What specifically do you think a "healthy fat" is?

25

GH goals: mainly joint health and sleep.

Using GH at 25 is about as smart as your food plan.

What was your natty IGF-1?

and will also start a cut soon

So you are using GH at 25, are fat, don't have a food plan, and want to cut

You have some learning to do

The GH is a waste. You don't need anything other than a better understanding of nutrition, a food scale, tracking app or log book and discipline to achieve your goal.

GH is an old man drug, unless for some reason your natty igf and z-score were low.

 

[iloveblondes666]

Well, you did it wrong. But what you wrote helps me understand why you couldn't figure out how to do it right.




This is the dumbest thing you could have written.


Why are you eating lots of fats? What specifically do you think a "healthy fat" is?




Using GH at 25 is about as smart as your food plan.

What was your natty IGF-1?



So you are using GH at 25, are fat, don't have a food plan, and want to cut

You have some learning to do

The GH is a waste. You don't need anything other than a better understanding of nutrition, a food scale, tracking app or log book and discipline to achieve your goal.

GH is an old man drug, unless for some reason your natty igf and z-score were low.

nobdoy asked you for a lecture, how to achieve my goals or how to workout and what or not to take or how to eat, I sincerely and respectfully don't gaf about your life advice since you got so patronising with this reply,

my question was pharmacology related aimed at somebody who understands how GH works and how it's made, to help theorise why my body reacted paradoxically different on 2 vastly different dosages, and also to imply the difference in quality of the compound between the sources if it's ruled out (by somebody knowledgeable on the subject) that my body is reacting different and it's the compound at fault. Thanks

 

[Elektrobot]

nobdoy asked you for a lecture, how to achieve my goals or how to workout and what or not to take or how to eat, I sincerely and respectfully don't gaf about your life advice since you got so patronising with this reply,

my question was aimed at somebody who understands how GH works and how it's made to help theorise why my body reacted paradoxically different on 2 different dosages, and also to imply the difference in quality of the compound between the sources if it's ruled out (by somebody knowledge on the subject) that my body is reacting different and it's the compound at fault. Thanks

You don't even understand food but you are worried about the potency of your gh........

Spend your efforts on improving things that will actually make a difference for you. Food and training.

You are wasting your time worrying about GH

 

[hellerhiwater]

The hgh doesn't start working until you read the new member rules and etiquette and post your new member introduction like you're supposed to

In your introduction, tell us about your self, your age, height, weight, bodyfat, your goals, your training, your food plan..........

After you do that, your hgh will start working

you should start linking your own introduction as an example for the many new members you help out. or maybe linking the documentation of your own log, bf%, eating/training plan, etc just so we can all have an idea of what we're working towards or how to lay it out.

 

[iloveblondes666]

You don't even understand food but you are worried about the potency of your gh........

Spend your efforts on improving things that will actually make a difference for you. Food and training.

You are wasting your time worrying about GH

spend your efforts of trying to appear superior in other threads, not even gonna give in to your bait I don't like arguing, which is what you're trying to do

 

[Elektrobot]

spend your efforts of trying to appear superior in other threads, not even gonna give in to your bait I don't like arguing, which is what you're trying to do

Saying that you should learn how to eat and train before worrying about the contents of a GH vial at 25 isn't a superior stance

Its just legit solid advice man

First things first. You are worried about step 100 before mastering step 1

 

[hellerhiwater]

spend your efforts of trying to appear superior in other threads, not even gonna give in to your bait I don't like arguing, which is what you're trying to do

look, they're saying it in a mega weird way and def are consistently weird about hwo they communicate, but they're not completely off base.

you 100% have a point about not needing the lectures and your post being about something specific, and imo you should get a legit answer for that question at some point, if only for the sake of maintaining the value of the forum at-large.

but it is also fair to be curious about why you're interested in that particular answer, and why you're doing what you're doing. humans are constantly making assumptions and thinking down the line to anticipate needs/actions, its a very normal behavior. and when we add the context of a ped forum, its a very safe bet that someone is looking to optimize either their health or appearance. so giving advice that is relevant to that pursuit is never completely out of left field.

as far as utilization; the notion that young people dont need gh is not based on nothing. there is a non zero chance that you could be shutting down your natural production of gh only to replace it with a smaller amount (maybe not on 4iu, but def still possible). response is very individual, and accounting for variance in manufacturing/storage practices it becomes incredibly difficult to make sweeping comparisons between different regimens in the way you're asking.

there is also some relatively rare effect that certain contaminants or byproducts in exogenous gh can have that makes your body either much less responsive to, or completely unresponsive to exogenous GH.

as this forum is full of old dudes, GH discussion is kind of an unofficial second value of the forum (first being harm reduction). so i know this is mega annoying, but if you search around for gh posts, youre likely to find a ton of info to either come to an answer yourself, or get one directly.

ill brb with a link to a big stickied gh post thats been mentioned a bunch

here it is: GH sticky

 

[iloveblondes666]

look, they're saying it in a mega weird way and def are consistently weird about hwo they communicate, but they're not completely off base.

nope, not only this dude is totally patronising his assumption are erroneous, telling me I don't know anything about how food works on the premise that I don't count calories and knowing nothing else about me and not giving 1 single reply related to my original question, literally came in here to hijack this thread to try to inflate his ego

you 100% have a point about not needing the lectures and your post being about something specific, and imo you should get a legit answer for that question at some point, if only for the sake of maintaining the value of the forum at-large.

yes which is why I made this thread, to talk about pharmacology and experience with this source, as somebody also mentioned experienced similar things, not made this thread to argue

but it is also fair to be curious about why you're interested in that particular answer, and why you're doing what you're doing. humans are constantly making assumptions and thinking down the line to anticipate needs/actions, its a very normal behavior. and when we add the context of a ped forum, its a very safe bet that someone is looking to optimize either their health or appearance. so giving advice that is relevant to that pursuit is never completely out of left field.

I guess it s fair to expect people to be curious and even give their 2 cents on life advice which I fully welcome, but not in a fully patronising disrespectful way like this dude

as far as utilization; the notion that young people dont need gh is not based on nothing. there is a non zero chance that you could be shutting down your natural production of gh only to replace it with a smaller amount (maybe not on 4iu, but def still possible). response is very individual, and accounting for variance in manufacturing/storage practices it becomes incredibly difficult to make sweeping comparisons between different regimens in the way you're asking.

again I didn't ask if I should take or not take GH, anybody can respectfully ask me why I do it and I would gladly conversate, telling me I don't know what I am doing and shouldn't take it is not a conversation or advice.

there is also some relatively rare effect that certain contaminants or byproducts in exogenous gh can have that makes your body either much less responsive to, or completely unresponsive to exogenous GH.

true, not my case clearly tho unless 3-4 weeks of 2-4 IU a day would cause permanent lasting GH antibodies which is very unlikely

as this forum is full of old dudes, GH discussion is kind of an unofficial second value of the forum (first being harm reduction). so i know this is mega annoying, but if you search around for gh posts, youre likely to find a ton of info to either come to an answer yourself, or get one directly.

being old doesn't make you automatically right; i also searched around before posting this which is how I started this thread, is why I am stressing the source.

ill brb with a link to a big stickied gh post thats been mentioned a bunch

here it is: GH sticky

thanks

 

[Realrobinhood]

nope, not only this dude is totally patronising his assumption are erroneous, telling me I don't know anything about how food works on the premise that I don't count calories and knowing nothing else about me and not giving 1 single reply related to my original question, literally came in here to hijack this thread to try to inflate his ego

yes which is why I made this thread, to talk about pharmacology and experience with this source, as somebody also mentioned experienced similar things, not made this thread to argue

I guess it s fair to expect people to be curious and even give their 2 cents on life advice which I fully welcome, but not in a fully patronising disrespectful way like this dude

again I didn't ask if I should take or not take GH, anybody can respectfully ask me why I do it and I would gladly conversate, telling me I don't know what I am doing and shouldn't take it is not a conversation or advice.

true, not my case clearly tho unless 3-4 weeks of 2-4 IU a day would cause permanent lasting GH antibodies which is very unlikely

being old doesn't make you automatically right; i also searched around before posting this which is how I started this thread, is why I am stressing the source.

thanks

So what batch from QSC you talking about? I got some 3d party results just tell me what batch top color.

 

[iloveblondes666]

So what batch from QSC you talking about? I got some 3d party results just tell me what batch top color.

Order placed on 29th december, eu warehouse, came in this package; A023H36

 

[Realrobinhood]

Order placed on 29th december, eu warehouse, came in this package; A023H36

Also placed same time, weird i got purple same paper box. I think yours good to go, it has been tested thourougly and its overdosed 3iu.

 

[iloveblondes666]

Order placed on 29th december, eu warehouse, came in this package; A023H36

sorry are your tops purple or the paper box, thanks

 

[Cyp180]

25, 183 cm, 90KG, 18ish %, training daily personal split, I don't count calories and only eat whole meals made at home, get about 160+ g of protein a day, lots of healthy fats and carbs also, GH goals: mainly joint health and sleep, and will also start a cut soon.

With thse goals you start on 8iu out of the blue

 

[iloveblondes666]

With thse goals you start on 8iu out of the blue

if you would read I started 6 IU with the expectation that it will be a lot, previously only doing 2-4, and went up to 8 because I didn't feel anything, man please stop replying to these threads if you don't tackle the question or don't read properly, I m saying this as respectfully as possible as I was already contacted by the admin to not do these childish arguments anymore,

be like @Realrobinhood this dude is genuinely answering my question and also helping; the question is about the quality of the GH not my goals

 

[DeJa1991]

Hello, somebody already posted a similar thing in december, having no sides when starting GH at 6IU from tracy QSC, same thing here.

As a reference, I've did a few vials of GH 36 for a brief period last summer bought from SSA, I started on 4 IU and it hit like a train, next day I was sleepy and tired, and had water retention all over my body especially face and hands so I titrated down to 2 IU and still had the water retention and slight hand disconfort for a few weeks, diet was on point. Consistent PERCEIVABLE effects and side effects I had:
-really good sleep and easy to fall asleep immediately after pinning
-water retention, puffy face and hands
-forearm small hair follicle pimples
-improved mood (less anxiety)
-no more DOMS

Now, when trying the GH from QSC I decided to start on 6 IU just because I wanted to feel it strong again and to my surprise absolutely none of the effects above have appeared. Neither the good nor the bad. I've pinned 4 times now (8 IU once), from 2 different vacuumed and clear vials, carefully reconstituted. I used medical grade saline 0.9%.

I did a GH blood test today after pinning and waiting for the results, but in the meantime I still can't explain why I don't feel anything and I know your opinions, not saying it's bunk or a bad batch, just wanna know why.

I also wanna ask you guys, even if the blood test will show elevated GH levels, is it still possible my body is not utilising it properly for some reason? Or can the GH from QSC show good on a jano test but something about it be wrong, not usable? I don't know much about chemistry or making accusations this is purely a question to rule out anything and come with an aswer, cheers.

First thing: sides ≠ quality. Water retention, carpal tunnel, sleepiness etc. are individual responses, not proof something is “working” or “not working.” Some people get hammered by 4 IU, others feel nothing at 6–8 IU. Genetics, sodium intake, carbs, sleep, stress, bodyfat and even injection timing all play a role.

You also have a reference bias from your first run. You expect to feel something now, so when it doesn’t happen it stands out more. First exposure to GH could hit harder.