cousinmuscles
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Seen this but that is for 1ml syringes and 13mm pins. I need something for a 3ml barrel.
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IM needle sizes and common practices
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I got one off ebay for the 3mm… expensive and wonky… but it works when u make a slight adjustment: the top plastic cover requires u to put a piece of foam or something on top of the syringe when the lid is closed or that bastard will slam the needle into the inside wall of the device…
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explodingHeart
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Nipro 30g in your glute is great if you're lean and the oil is warm.
not all oils do get easy through such a tiny needle.
For long timer user, and different oil use I advise 27g 19mm IM and 13mm Subq.
3ml syringe do make it harder to get your gear through a tiny needle. 2–1ml is fine.
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cousinmuscles
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Thanks. Does it have enough strength to push GSO through a 27g? How does it feel having the needle slammed into the flesh (lol)? I saw the injector guns but they were mostly for those who can't pierce the needle, not for help pushing the plunger when injecting e.g. lats-I got one off ebay for the 3mm… expensive and wonky… but it works when u make a slight adjustment: the top plastic cover requires u to put a piece of foam or something on top of the syringe when the lid is closed or that bastard will slam the needle into the inside wall of the device…
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These syringes are available in every pharmacy. You can use syringes from other manufacturers, but consider the information below. Syringes from different manufacturers may differ slightly in size.ebay.us
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The thing has a bunch of force… donkey punchy id say haha… but u can walk it off… slams the needle in pretty quickly…
I use mct.. but pharm test maybe gso… ill give it a go and let u know how it is
Photon
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I got one off ebay for the 3mm… expensive and wonky… but it works when u make a slight adjustment: the top plastic cover requires u to put a piece of foam or something on top of the syringe when the lid is closed or that bastard will slam the needle into the inside wall of the device…
SPASILEN Automatic ENGLISH ver., Easy to do an injection yourself+GIFT | eBay
These syringes are available in every pharmacy. You can use syringes from other manufacturers, but consider the information below. Syringes from different manufacturers may differ slightly in size.ebay.us
Or
Dinamika Auto Injector Gun for Easy Self-Administering Shots - Fast Shipping | eBay
Explore the Dinamika Auto Injector Gun for efficient self-injection. Ideal for Anesthesiology, Oncology, and more. Fast shipping available.ebay.us
Komarik Automatic Syringe Injector Easy self shot administration | eBay
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What needle length do you use with this?
Eddie.
Member
I use 25G 1 inch for every site, side delts, rear delts, lats and sometimes i add pecs in rotation.
I've no problem with thin needles but i strongly believe on going deep with IM. I'm pretty sure many dudes that use half inch insulin pins for IM rotation, they're just doing shallow IM/subc and fool themselves. Even at 7-8% bodyfat with enough muscle mass a half inch may be good for delts but even pecs or lats i wouldn't be comfortable doing them with short needles, it's funny some guys doing glutes and ventroglutes with slins and think they're reaching muscle when they're +10% bodyfat.
Also, i believe that scar tissue of unfrequent shots with a 25G versus a scar tissue of a 29G and daily shots would be pretty similar. Piercing the muscle with a somewhat thicker needle 2-3 times a week vs piercing the muscle with a thinner needle everyday is close IMO.
So i don't agree at all with those who end up doing every day shots just to avoid a thicker needle in order to not create scar tissue. If you want to avoid scar tissue you can do subc and call it a day.
The perfect scenario for me is doing 3 IM shots a week with a thin needle like 27G or 29G and 1 inch long. Unfortunately i can't find anywhere here in my country a gauge like this so i'm doing 25G. I wouldn't mind wait another 10 seconds for the oil to come out.
I've no problem with thin needles but i strongly believe on going deep with IM. I'm pretty sure many dudes that use half inch insulin pins for IM rotation, they're just doing shallow IM/subc and fool themselves. Even at 7-8% bodyfat with enough muscle mass a half inch may be good for delts but even pecs or lats i wouldn't be comfortable doing them with short needles, it's funny some guys doing glutes and ventroglutes with slins and think they're reaching muscle when they're +10% bodyfat.
Also, i believe that scar tissue of unfrequent shots with a 25G versus a scar tissue of a 29G and daily shots would be pretty similar. Piercing the muscle with a somewhat thicker needle 2-3 times a week vs piercing the muscle with a thinner needle everyday is close IMO.
So i don't agree at all with those who end up doing every day shots just to avoid a thicker needle in order to not create scar tissue. If you want to avoid scar tissue you can do subc and call it a day.
The perfect scenario for me is doing 3 IM shots a week with a thin needle like 27G or 29G and 1 inch long. Unfortunately i can't find anywhere here in my country a gauge like this so i'm doing 25G. I wouldn't mind wait another 10 seconds for the oil to come out.
I’m pretty much still a novice going on 5 yrs of ped use and I’m learning as I go …..started with 21g now at 25g guess 30 g is next
I rotate quads glutes and delts but I see lats can be a viable option….btw I have developed scar tissue already on right quad don’t know if my age has anything to do with it (57) but I have learned Nipro brand needles are far better than the generic stuff from amazon
apollotrance
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I been using nipro 25g 1.5" for IM oil. For certain locations like the delt I just dont push it in all the way. Most everything else gets 30g 1/2" . Works perfectly for me. I still have a full box of easy touch 27g 5/8" that I ordered by accident. But I'm sure they will get used up for the delts
Any size u want i think if i remember correctly the few times i used it, 27-28- 1”
BeardedGuy
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I use 27g 1-1/2” for GV and glutes for water based compounds like L-Carn, and 25g 1-1/2” for oil based.
Medicale shop has 27ga 1-1/2”
Medicale shop has 27ga 1-1/2”
New here, been reading for a couple of yrs. Been on pharma test cyp for at least 7 yrs, started im thighs, arm for a few yrs then switched to the ass w a 23g 1".
For past 3 yrs after a 2 week fight w the wife who stopped doing my shots in the butt I switched over to a 27g 1\2" for sq abdomen 2x a week and never looked back after my numbers stayed the same. Have small belly roll to hit and for a person who hates needles it's essentially zero indication of a needle going in me w the 27g. and it's quick and simple since it's so visual. Jm2c. Thnx
For past 3 yrs after a 2 week fight w the wife who stopped doing my shots in the butt I switched over to a 27g 1\2" for sq abdomen 2x a week and never looked back after my numbers stayed the same. Have small belly roll to hit and for a person who hates needles it's essentially zero indication of a needle going in me w the 27g. and it's quick and simple since it's so visual. Jm2c. Thnx
hellerhiwater
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30g works fine for subq and im if you want an even smaller needle
adrenalytic
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But but site enhancement!!1 jk but so many guys believe in this that it's a meme.
Survivalism
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I’ve been using 25 ga 1 inch Amazon generics rotating between vg and glute with every day dosing (right vg, right glute, left glute, left vg). Was not concerned about scar tissue before but now after reading this thread I think I may be fucking up.
I am not bothered at all by the injection itself so my only real concern here is long term viability.
Is 27 ga rotating between 6 sites (probably adding delts) enough for every day or do I need to consider more sites in rotation or maybe 30 ga?
Also does the brand / quality really make that big a difference in scar tissue? I have no problem spending the money if it’s going to put me on the right side of caution.
I am not bothered at all by the injection itself so my only real concern here is long term viability.
Is 27 ga rotating between 6 sites (probably adding delts) enough for every day or do I need to consider more sites in rotation or maybe 30 ga?
Also does the brand / quality really make that big a difference in scar tissue? I have no problem spending the money if it’s going to put me on the right side of caution.
