Best Sub Q testosterone ester?

[Mr.AAJR]

Vigorous Steve is a proponent of subq injections. But I'll probably just defer to a bunch of randoms on an internet forum. They probably know better.

*flamesuiton*

 

[johnjay06]

My doc encouraged it because there is literature stating it helps with high hemoglobin. So I'm gonna trust my doc on it and continue doing my trt subq. Now if I was blasting, maybe I'd reconsider subq but on TRT+ it's the only way I'll do it.

 

[toofy]

How do you know what type of oil is in the test? I don’t see it listed on the vendor websites.

And why oil in the first place? I’ve seen water based test.

 

[frofrank]

How do you know what type of oil is in the test? I don’t see it listed on the vendor websites.

And why oil in the first place? I’ve seen water based test.

You need to go make a new member post my brother.

Great vendors will show whats in there via tests, good vendors will have it listed, okay vendors will have it upon request. If they don't say at all, good luck to you.

 

[toofy]

You need to go make a new member post my brother.

Great vendors will show whats in there via tests, good vendors will have it listed, okay vendors will have it upon request. If they don't say at all, good luck to you.

Thanks I'll have to just look into it deeper.

Here's my new member post from last week:

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Post in thread 'Breach in etiquette!'

Yesterday at 11:42 PM

Welcome. Your test is very good for your age. I would not get on TRT if you don't want it for life. As far as secretagogues (Tesa/Ipam) they are only worth it for the very young. It is a multiplier, somewhere in the 30-40% range. So with your baseline IGF-1 of 90 you would get maybe 30-40 more IGF-1 whereas 2 IUs of HGH will easily put you over 200+. But I guess we all have to learn the hard way.

Thanks, that's what I am learning. I got some HGH to move over to probably soon but I'm waiting until I get my IGF-1 this week just out of curiousity.

Looking back, my PCP drew...

• toofy

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[strixsir]

Who knows, new generation trying to reinvent the wheel. Unless it's micro dosing .10 to .25 or less your going to develope lumps, it has to be some unreasonable fear. Either way subq is proven to absorb and be beneficial. I equate it to PIP though. Now launch shitty quality propionate or the like and it's not just PIP, it's debilitating burning soreness and unnecessary entirely.

Apart from Sheer convenience factor, Daily or every 2 day frequency is objectively a better protocol for pinning for most esters,

Significantly Less aromatization, Side effects from concentration are negligible or diminished.

Long term Game ? Pin at higher frequency, make it part of skincare routine or something idk

 

[frofrank]

Thanks I'll have to just look into it deeper.

Here's my new member post from last week:

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Post in thread 'Breach in etiquette!'

Yesterday at 11:42 PM

Welcome. Your test is very good for your age. I would not get on TRT if you don't want it for life. As far as secretagogues (Tesa/Ipam) they are only worth it for the very young. It is a multiplier, somewhere in the 30-40% range. So with your baseline IGF-1 of 90 you would get maybe 30-40 more IGF-1 whereas 2 IUs of HGH will easily put you over 200+. But I guess we all have to learn the hard way.

Thanks, that's what I am learning. I got some HGH to move over to probably soon but I'm waiting until I get my IGF-1 this week just out of curiousity.

Looking back, my PCP drew...

• toofy

• 

Looks good! Sorry about that missed it somehow.

My belief is water based crashes easier, more pip, likely some other solvents in there to compensate. Really only see it was sustanon and TNE. C and E are almost always oil based.

 

[aromatizer]

You need to go make a new member post my brother.

Great vendors will show whats in there via tests, good vendors will have it listed, okay vendors will have it upon request. If they don't say at all, good luck to you.

"It's the same quality you have come to expect!"

 

[Adi18]

Vigorous Steve is a proponent of subq injections. But I'll probably just defer to a bunch of randoms on an internet forum. They probably know better.

*flamesuiton*

Vigorous Steve is just a social media influencer who's made a living from clicks from you. He literally has no medical or scientific qualifications other than reading a bunch of stuff, much like these randoms on an internet forum, he just made a way to profit off it. Sub-q was unheard of until recently. I stopped using 30g 1/2 inch for my im's because it felt wierd and like it wasnt getting deep enough in the muscle, I think because the needle is so thin it wiggles around while injecting. I like 25 gauge 5/8 the best. Its all personal preference but IM has been the standard for years, its just recently people using insulin needles for it. 1.5 inch is way overkill as in harpoons, but im sure they have their place too. I think its more getting people that are scared of needles to do their own trt. If it works for you and your body tolerates go for it. But I've never subq an oil before and dont plan on it.

 

[Mr.AAJR]

Vigorous Steve is just a social media influencer who's made a living from clicks from you. He literally has no medical or scientific qualifications other than reading a bunch of stuff, much like these randoms on an internet forum, he just made a way to profit off it.

Not at all "much like these randoms." 99.9% of the people here have never read a single study in their entire life. Much less understood what it was saying. Everything is bro-science and anecdote. Some of them even argue with the studies because it is not what they have "experienced."

Sub-q was unheard of until recently.

You know what was also unheard of until semi-recently? Longevity. Giving a fuck about your health after you were done doing steroids. Guess that makes it a bad thing. You make it seem like just because something is recent, it is somehow bad or not efficacious. This is part of the problem of the bodybuilding world. The "well, this is how we have always done it" mentality. As if someone is a pussy for doing sub-q injections because they have done it a different way for years. Fucking stupid.

But I've never subq an oil before and dont plan on it.

You make it seem like some badge of honor that you have never done a sub-q injection. Good for you bro.

 

[adrenalytic]

As if someone is a pussy for doing sub-q