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Ya they retested my deca 3 times and came up with the same bs wrong data each time. Not sure why you think retesting maies a difference when the testing is wrong in the first place lol They did the same for squat and we each sent samples from the same batch. 25% variance between the two. Again all this was covered in the jano thread already so its pointless to go over it again. He even admitted that without mixing first his raw testing struggles. It sounds like he will start adding this to his raw prep checklist before its mailed in so that was good on him and I hope he follows through. My entire point...that i have to keep repeating...is that i wont trust janos raw testing by itself and anyone that wants to down play it or make up excuses for it isnt going ti erase my experiences nor help anyone expand their horizons. Use more then just one tester and make sure the results are accurate.

80% mast e is trash but if you are comfortable making that work thats your decision.. Even photon got rid of his tren e at what 84%?

We dont have to argue about testing everytime someone warns about inaccurate testing. Geezus. Its better to have more testing sources then just one anyway....keeps them all honest.
Yes and that deca sample looked like shit, I would throw it without the janoshik test.

That thread was a great read btw, janoshik is the only one who stepped in to talk among testers too.

Photons tren also looked weird, crumbly stuff, correct me if I am wrong but he also mentioned an off smell, he posted about it in the recrystallization thread that he managed to improve it a little bit but gave up anyway.

If I received one test result at 80% when the product looks fine, melts at correct temp et.c., I would not dump it instantly. And if retesting at the same lab didn't give any other result, try another lab. What I meant to say is, I wouldn't freak out over one test result and dump 1kg of an exotic raw. But as I said, if it looked like shit like that deca or smelled very weird, even with an average test result would make me think twice if I'd ever use it for myself.
 
Yes and that deca sample looked like shit, I would throw it without the janoshik test.

That thread was a great read btw, janoshik is the only one who stepped in to talk among testers too.

Photons tren also looked weird, crumbly stuff, correct me if I am wrong but he also mentioned an off smell, he posted about it in the recrystallization thread that he managed to improve it a little bit but gave up anyway.

If I received one test result at 80% when the product looks fine, melts at correct temp et.c., I would not dump it instantly. And if retesting at the same lab didn't give any other result, try another lab. What I meant to say is, I wouldn't freak out over one test result and dump 1kg of an exotic raw. But as I said, if it looked like shit like that deca or smelled very weird, even with an average test result would make me think twice if I'd ever use it for myself.

Its been shown via multiple tests that if you sent to AB or MzBioLabs you'd get way higher %, in that case, maybe its better to just save money and just use it lol.

I think AB gave that 94%. An extra 10%.

I bought new TRE raws elsewhere but i think it got seized :rolleyes:
 
Its been shown via multiple tests that if you sent to AB or MzBioLabs you'd get way higher %, in that case, maybe its better to just save money and just use it lol.

I think AB gave that 94%. An extra 10%.

I bought new TRE raws elsewhere but i think it got seized :rolleyes:
Yes I saw the posts in that other thread. I really curious as to why, not a chemist but the explanation that there can be unbound hormone/unbound ester, maybe the other labs are catching it as the same? and the rest of the impurity being solvents/residues of the process. Just a guess.
 
Yes and that deca sample looked like shit, I would throw it without the janoshik test.

That thread was a great read btw, janoshik is the only one who stepped in to talk among testers too.

Photons tren also looked weird, crumbly stuff, correct me if I am wrong but he also mentioned an off smell, he posted about it in the recrystallization thread that he managed to improve it a little bit but gave up anyway.

If I received one test result at 80% when the product looks fine, melts at correct temp et.c., I would not dump it instantly. And if retesting at the same lab didn't give any other result, try another lab. What I meant to say is, I wouldn't freak out over one test result and dump 1kg of an exotic raw. But as I said, if it looked like shit like that deca or smelled very weird, even with an average test result would make me think twice if I'd ever use it for myself.
The deca didnt look as good as other batches Ive had but it didnt look bad enough to toss. That trem e photon had didnt look bad enough to toss either. Was there black shit in the raws? No. Just cause it looks a little clumsy or wet doesnt mean shit. Whats it look like brewed? Whats the testing look like? Thats what I go off of. Raws can vary in looks. After 15 years of this I've seen all types of ways raws can look. But lets not argue that 89% mast e is trash lmfao its 80%!!! Like I said if you wamt to use that or sell that , thats your choice but I have higher standards. 89% eq is one thing...80% mast is a whole other thing. I guess we agree to disagree lol
 
The deca didnt look as good as other batches Ive had but it didnt look bad enough to toss. That trem e photon had didnt look bad enough to toss either. Was there black shit in the raws? No. Just cause it looks a little clumsy or wet doesnt mean shit. Whats it look like brewed? Whats the testing look like? Thats what I go off of. Raws can vary in looks. After 15 years of this I've seen all types of ways raws can look. But lets not argue that 89% mast e is trash lmfao its 80%!!! Like I said if you wamt to use that or sell that , thats your choice but I have higher standards. 89% eq is one thing...80% mast is a whole other thing. I guess we agree to disagree lol
Never said I would use it just because it looks good, I said I would not trash it based on one test result.
 
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