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[Photon]

Ok so with that being said then that means all the raw/finished oil testing isnt accurate and its pointless to do. So your 86% trem e test wasnt accurate either. Why did you even bother getting a raw test done?

Without testing, how do you even know what you received?
Baking soda?

The labs, as you can see, report different figures.
If you better understand what each means, you get a better idea of what you have.

I already mentioned, if you err on the side of caution, you take the lowest purity results. If the raws are truly pure, there will be consensus between all 3 labs and clearly, the tren raws i received, is not pure. There is no consensus. a 10% difference.

 

[dinfar1337]

Are you just going to talk shit or are you going to contribute something? Im asking photon a question....not you.

hello cob, i wanna invite you out to eat pølse with remoulade

pølse with remoulade is a danish delicacy

 

[IndividualMan]

Are you just going to talk shit or are you going to contribute something? Im asking photon a question....not you.

he has repeatedly supplied you with extremely detailed answers to your question.
Answers which anyone who is interested in actually understanding how testing works would be able to comprehend after about 12 years of school and 2-3 hours of reading testing threads + another 2-3 hours of watching youtube videos on different methods of analysis.

You repeatedly got your answers, dumbed down a bit more each time, and you still act as if you make a valid, revolutionary point no one has answered or ever even thought of. You are so incredibly incapable of understanding, it amazes me.

Your mind is so simple, I wonder if you have trouble percieving the three dimensional space you are moving in every day of your life.



So I wil ltry one last time, because even though @Photon supplied you with one final, beautiful answer to your question, I do believe you are still missing the point:

If all lab say raw good, raw likely good. Happy.

If all lab say raw bad, raw probably bad. sad. mad at vendor.

if lab say raw good, other lab say raw bad, ask why?
No want risk miss something because lab work sloppy. think be careful be good for be healthy for long time.
ask vendor why raw bad maybe? if vendor no answer, be mad at vendor for no answer.

Have to think big if some say good and some say bad, but think big worth. only say stupid question again and again no think big, is think small. think small no good. think small annoying for others.

 

[Cob]

Without testing, how do you even know what you received?
Baking soda?

The labs, as you can see, report different figures.
If you better understand what each means, you get a better idea of what you have.

I already mentioned, if you err on the side of caution, you take the lowest purity results. If the raws are truly pure, there will be consensus between all 3 labs and clearly, the tren raws i received, is not pure. There is no consensus. a 10% difference.

So based on what you are saying, the only reason we should get purity testing is to prove what we have is what we ordered. At rhe same time the actual purity test is not accurate because of impurities. You cant say the lower purity test is safer then the higher purity test because actual purity testing is not accurate. The only way to prove anything is by getting a purity test, a mg test to check the purity percentage and then also get the gcms/lcms/heavy metals tests to verify the purities vs the impurities...but then you have impurities that can be counted as purities i.e. false positives.

The only reason any source would provide a purity test then is to not show purity but to show that the hormone is the actual hormone.

Do you see what im saying? If you sum up what you are saying then no testing is accurate and you cant claim anything to a source from a purity test. Your 86% tren e purity test only shows there is tren e there...it doesn't accurately show the purity

Saying to take the lower purity is also wrong. If you have multiple tests that show different purifies then you would take the average not the lowest. But then again what does it matter when all the purity percentages are not accurate anyway. You can't have this kne way or another. Its either all testing is inaccurate or its not.

 

[Cob]

he has repeatedly supplied you with extremely detailed answers to your question.
Answers which anyone who is interested in actually understanding how testing works would be able to comprehend after about 12 years of school and 2-3 hours of reading testing threads + another 2-3 hours of watching youtube videos on different methods of analysis.

You repeatedly got your answers, dumbed down a bit more each time, and you still act as if you make a valid, revolutionary point no one has answered or ever even thought of. You are so incredibly incapable of understanding, it amazes me.

Your mind is so simple, I wonder if you have trouble percieving the three dimensional space you are moving in every day of your life.



So I wil ltry one last time, because even though @Photon supplied you with one final, beautiful answer to your question, I do believe you are still missing the point:

If all lab say raw good, raw likely good. Happy.

If all lab say raw bad, raw probably bad. sad. mad at vendor.

if lab say raw good, other lab say raw bad, ask why?
No want risk miss something because lab work sloppy. think be careful be good for be healthy for long time.
ask vendor why raw bad maybe? if vendor no answer, be mad at vendor for no answer.

Have to think big if some say good and some say bad, but think big worth. only say stupid question again and again no think big, is think small. think small no good. think small annoying for others.

Your comprehension of what photon is saying is less the a 5th grade level. Please stop trying to act like you know what your talking about. All you are able to contribute is talking shit. You provide literally nothing of substance.

 

[IndividualMan]

So based on what you are saying, the only reason we should get purity testing is to prove what we have is what we ordered. At rhe same time the actual purity test is not accurate because of impurities. You cant say the lower purity test is safer then the higher purity test because actual purity testing is not accurate. The only way to prove anything is by getting a purity test, a mg test to check the purity percentage and then also get the gcms/lcms/heavy metals tests to verify the purities vs the impurities...but then you have impurities that can be counted as purities i.e. false positives.

The only reason any source would provide a purity test then is to not show purity but to show that the hormone is the actual hormone.

Do you see what im saying? If you sum up what you are saying then no testing is accurate and you cant claim anything to a source from a purity test. Your 86% tren e purity test only shows there is tren e there...it doesn't accurately show the purity

Saying to take the lower purity is also wrong. If you have multiple tests that show different purifies then you would take the average not the lowest. But then again what does it matter when all the purity percentages are not accurate anyway. You can't have this kne way or another. Its either all testing is inaccurate or its not.

you are so outrageously uneducated/ cognitively impaired I am genuinely losing hope. this has either been the most successful despairbait of all time or you are truly profoundly developmentally delayed.

goodbye.

 

[IndividualMan]

Your comprehension of what photon is saying is less the a 5th grade level. Please stop trying to act like you know what your talking about. All you are able to contribute is talking shit. You provide literally nothing of substance.

There is a reason why photon, bless his patient soul, keeps replying to you and trying to explain the aspects of testing you are clearly missing.

If someone keeps trying to explain something to you, it is because the things you are saying gives them the impression you have not understood it.

In other, less kind words, you are so unintelligent and hard of understanding I would consider a full lobotomy if I was in your position, and most other people reading your post get a similar impression of your "extraordinary" ability.

 

[Cob]

you are so outrageously uneducated/ cognitively impaired I am genuinely losing hope. this has either been the most successful despairbait of all time or you are truly profoundly developmentally delayed.

goodbye.

Geezus are you this blind? You can't say purity testing is inaccurate but then proceed to bash aasraw over a single 86% purity test. Did you eat paint chips when you were a kid. I cant say this any more dumbed down for you. Please just do us all a favor and shut up.

 

[IndividualMan]

Geezus are you this blind? You can't say purity testing is inaccurate but then proceed to bash aasraw over a single 86% purity test. Did you eat paint chips when you were a kid. I cant say this any more dumbed down for you. Please just do us all a favor and shut up.

"A single test" and its half of all test done on their raws since they returned with AAS stock. Ragebait used to be beliavable.

Nowadays people trying it just cause despair and anguish.

So stop acting retarded to run cover for this vendor or lowkenuinely end your stint as a dckrider on meso and as an AAS user in the real world. It has been a good run, you can let others take over for you now.
Wont be missed.

Edit: holy cortisol spike. Ignored.

 

[Cob]

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"A single test" and its half of all test done on their raws since they returned with AAS stock. Ragebait used to be beliavable.

Nowadays people trying it just cause despair and anguish.

So stop acting retarded to run cover for this vendor or lowkenuinely end your stint as a dckrider on meso and as an AAS user in the real world. It has been a good run, you can let others take over for you now.
Wont be missed.

Edit: holy cortisol spike. Ignored.

If you cant see where my line of questioning is going then I dont know what to tell you. All you are doing is being a troll. You are bringing absolutely ZERO substance to this thread. Your small brain cant even understand where this conversation is going because you can only focus on being a troll.You are so dense you cant even see a simple contradiction. Seriously....just shut up. You are polluting the discussion.

 

[cousinmuscles]

If all lab say raw good, raw likely good. Happy.

If all lab say raw bad, raw probably bad. sad. mad at vendor.

if lab say raw good, other lab say raw bad, ask why?
No want risk miss something because lab work sloppy. think be careful be good for be healthy for long time.
ask vendor why raw bad maybe? if vendor no answer, be mad at vendor for no answer.

Have to think big if some say good and some say bad, but think big worth. only say stupid question again and again no think big, is think small. think small no good. think small annoying for others.

This reminded me of this

View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQiJj6XE9nV/?igsh=NDh0Z3VncjM5Ym96


It is pointless to try and argue when Cob is repeating the same tactic, it's called moving the goalpost, ad hominem attacks and straw man fallacies.

Also don't forget that these repeated arguments of whether it is janoshiks testing being bad are burying the other complaints, not directly about purity and testing but of straight unusable raws.

 

[Cob]

This reminded me of this

View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQiJj6XE9nV/?igsh=NDh0Z3VncjM5Ym96


It is pointless to try and argue when Cob is repeating the same tactic, it's called moving the goalpost, ad hominem attacks and straw man fallacies.

Also don't forget that these repeated arguments of whether it is janoshiks testing being bad are burying the other complaints, not directly about purity and testing but of straight unusable raws.

Im not the one who started the ad hominem attacks. You people are insufferable. Who are you to speak after telling a guy to melt raws before adding liquid? Are the peoole here this fkn dense?,

What do you not understand about a guy who uses a purity test to repeatedly bash a source but then explains that purity tests are not accurate? Also by saying purity tests are not accurate he is saying jano and AB ate not accurate. Hes literally sending a sample to be tested by AB as we speak but why when purity tests are not accurate? Just to see if there is the correct hormone in it? You all cant see a fkn contradiction when it smashes you in the face with a baseball bat. Yall sit here and act like I'm wrong but im loterally just questioning photons answers because they contradicti every thing about testing that is being done. If you spend money on purity testing or base any kind of judgement off of purity testing dont you want to know why you continue to do that when photon is sitting here saying its all inaccurate?

Then yall want to bring up impurities but nit a single person here is having impurity testing done. Not a single person here can speak on impurity testing when they are not doing it. Thats what they call a hypocrite. Ya we can sit here and know about impurities and how certain testing can create flase positives or not read them at all but that doesnt prove a dam thing until you have a fkn test on it.

I don't deal with bullshit liberal strawman arguments. Bring some proof or shut the hell up. And if you dont like straight forward no bs discussion then go cry me a river. I am not going to bow down to people's attacks that have.no fkn merit to them except to try to .ake me look a certain way. Yall the ones ignoring what photon is saying...hell even he is ignoring his own answers. Cant use purity tedting for accuracy but lets use it to bash a source....cant use ab purity tedting cause who knows what theor processes are. Its all just bs here. What is it....is purity testing a joke or is it not? Pick one. My god this is not that difficult.

 

[dinfar1337]

testing is inaccurate but then proceed to bash aasraw over a single 86% purity test

whats your argument?

its inaaccurate the other way around? means it can be even lower than 86%, jano on raws rd is between 2%

 

[Photon]

So based on what you are saying, the only reason we should get purity testing is to prove what we have is what we ordered.

That is in fact, not what i said at all.
What is Jano reporting?
What is AB reporting?
What is Lab4Tox reporting?

At rhe same time the actual purity test is not accurate because of impurities. You cant say the lower purity test is safer then the higher purity test because actual purity testing is not accurate. The only way to prove anything is by getting a purity test, a mg test to check the purity percentage and then also get the gcms/lcms/heavy metals tests to verify the purities vs the impurities...but then you have impurities that can be counted as purities i.e. false positives.

And that again is not right.
What are impurities?
Once again, what are the labs reporting?
1 - Purity = Impurity

How do you match gcms and heavy metals to purity %?
You cant.
What do those tests measure and what do those results mean?

The only reason any source would provide a purity test then is to not show purity but to show that the hormone is the actual hormone.

Do you see what im saying? If you sum up what you are saying then no testing is accurate and you cant claim anything to a source from a purity test. Your 86% tren e purity test only shows there is tren e there...it doesn't accurately show the purity

Saying to take the lower purity is also wrong. If you have multiple tests that show different purifies then you would take the average not the lowest. But then again what does it matter when all the purity percentages are not accurate anyway. You can't have this kne way or another. Its either all testing is inaccurate or its not.

This is UGL.
You do not know if that is the real raw purity.
But if you err on the side of caution, you take the lowest.

Once again, you keep saying that results are inaccurate.
What do you understand is being reported?
Why are they inaccurate?
Without even knowing what the number means, you say its inaccurate?

Why am i bashing them for 86% Tren?
Because it is a Jano report and they advertise using Jano reports.
I told them upfront, if they do not accept poor Jano reports, then stop using Jano reports at all. Stop accepting Jano reports and i'll stop bashing them for it.

You don't seem to get what I'm saying..I'm not sure if its worth carrying on..

 

[Cob]

whats your argument?

its inaaccurate the other way around? means it can be even lower than 86%, jano on raws rd is between 2%

Whats my argument? How many times do I have to repeat it? I just laid it out. Photon said that purity tests are not accurate due to impurities in the raws and the purity tests dont pick those impurities up. So how can you consider 86% tren e purity test accurate enough to bash a source? No other testing was done. No other lab was used. Impurity testing was not done. Impurities can also be false positives in a purity test. So how can anyone use a purity test and believe it? You cant just say oh the percent is low so we know its bad. Then another lab is 10% higher and well they must hlhave a different process cause thats not right. What? I refuse to accept that opinion. That means everyone thats ever complained of purity to a source has an innacurate test. That means every sourxe thats provided a purity test is providing an innacurate test. You cant have it both ways...either your saying the purity testing is all innacurate or your saying its accurate. The only way photon can justify bashing aasraw is by admitting he is wrong about purity testing being innacurate or he has to admit he is wrong about bashing aasraw becauae purity testing is accurate. Thats the argument and this all stemmed off of him saying we cant use mg testing with purity testing to prove a lab is accurate because of impurities not picked up in purity testing, yet him and everyone else is getting purity testing done and the entire community is using purity testing as fact...including him.. To many contradictions in his stated opinions and thats why im questioning him. As should everyone. You dont get to say one thing and do another in my book.

 

[dinfar1337]

So how can you consider 86% tren e purity test accurate enough to bash a source

because its either 86% or lower, do you have a brain fart?

thats all i read from your message, write less when you write poop you dont even understand what you read or write and are giving everyone who was involved in discovering this a headache

 

[Photon]

Photon said that purity tests are not accurate due to impurities in the raws and the purity tests dont pick those impurities up.

im outa here
do you even know what you're saying
lol

what do you think the remaining % are, if not impurities?
magic dust?

 

[Photon]

@Cob

You are paying good money for each test..might be good to get more info on each test that you pay for and what it means..

 

[dinfar1337]

You are paying good money for each test..might be good to get more info on each test that you pay for and what it means..

just give up man the quality of new members XD

 

[cousinmuscles]

Im not the one who started the ad hominem attacks. You people are insufferable. Who are you to speak after telling a guy to melt raws before adding liquid? Are the peoole here this fkn dense?

No problem with melting a raw, it will not degrade. The way you do it matters. Who are you to speak about my method when I posted like 8 different compounds brewed this way with no issues? Argue with one point at a time, don't switch subject, don't move the goal post, don't insult, and answer to the replies you get, don't repeat the same argument.