jitterbug128
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Yeah not so much concerned as just curious about the intricacies, is that bit in the red actually distinguishable from standard mct?
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Kinda. We need more gcms data from sources. It's actually more rare to get a source to openly post gcms than it is not as it exposes the source to more criticism. We need more sources to post gcms to get that kinda of data your wanting answers to. I got nothing to compare myself to......I did use mig 812 but what if it has zero difference? Would be a shocker to me to say the least but I'll keep using it as it does indeed filter smoother than any oil I've used so far. That pays for itself
@dinfar1337 how many gcms on MCT based testing results for test cyp exist publicly I can look over. Better yet any with sources claiming to use mig 812??
Photon
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There's no difference in GCMS 812 vs MCT.
It's C8 C10.
Unfortunately, also means any vendor can claim it, as long as they use pure MCT.
You can compare against this if you want.
There's probably a test for Mig812 but I'm not sure if its necessary.
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jitterbug128
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If the gcms is identical, how is mig 812 even different in applicaton? Is the ratio of c8/c10 just different in mig 812
Photon
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That's not really the purpose of GCMS, which is why you don't see any difference. The testing that we mainly use right now focuses on dosage (most common - mg/ml) and contamination (rarely done - GCMS). Nobody actually talks about about testing oil quality.
jitterbug128
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Ah, that makes sense i suppose i misunderstood gcms in general, what would actually test for oil quality?
Interesting indeed. So even gcms can't determine mig vs MCT ...wow....so it's literally just trust me bro at this point. Hella sketch as I'm seeing lots of vendors claim mig and we have no way to hold people accountable for claiming it and charging accordingly. All I know is 299 for a gallon isn't cheap. If there's a test I can do to at least confirm to my customers I am indeed using the oil I claim to use I'd pay for it. However seeing that gcms you sent above kinda shows the vast difference between mine and whatever sample that was. Def a huge clean difference
Photon
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That's how it kinda works out there lol
You have so many vendors just randomly claim USP on Amazon..
The oil GCMS you see is China oil, veg oil + mct + eo. The mct components do match the MIG, but everything else is "extra", some cheap mix.
You can get it tested by finding the MIG specs, then finding a lab to test according to it. I'd say don't bother, spend your money on better equipment etc whatever instead.
E.g
Tested based off USP.
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If you really want to test something, I'd find one that simply tests for oil oxidation (peroxide) then may do that for every batch. I don't think people care as much as long as it's pure MCT + no oxidation.
Yes true. It's a lot of work for very little customer care in the end. I still want to use good ingredients for safety and less risk. In the end as long as the GCMS is relatively simple to organize I think it's clean. That china one is confusing ....mine you can kinda group and understand where fatty acid is. And where solvent is. Not so much with China
dinfar1337
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migoyl is extremely smooth, both in injection and drawing up, it just feels different. i could defiently tell difference from migoyl 812n vs mct from injecting it and then i would put a vendor on blast.
its funny i even saw my fav german donkey @Blitzschnell say the same thing
this is a problem not fixed with science but user feedback. and we all know the state of meso rn XD
Well at least I got the smooth feedback response so far. I'm good there
Photon
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They always seem to bundle 810 and 812
I would think 810 is thinner, if only they sold that separately.
Maybe we can source it? Surely it's extractable
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im not even sure how im going to finish these oils
one day i'll start frying chicken with it..
dinfar1337
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German Donkey? Dont break my heart like this.
But its true. Actually i had some people that hat problems with MCT and had 0 problems with Mig812N. Guess its the extra filtration, higher neutrality. And yes, this stuff is just magic. None of the many users ive sent the new batches too, had any problems and actually the MCT topic was one of the reasons many wanted EO. But so far i guess i will keep my brand Mig812N only. Not a single complaint, quite the opposite.
And from personal experience, yes. Just yes. I bet you can inject that with Insulin needles.
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