First Cycle, Looking for Advice

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(1) Labs, pull these
GoodLabs (Quest)
Search this website for a 20% off coupon code.
Should end up ~$170.
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(2) Dont use testP for first cycle, use test C
(3) Recommend you use easytouch 29/30g needles
(4) Don't use AI till you get mid cycle labwork, have Ralox on hand, use if needed.
(4) Personally i'd avoid daily pins for fist cycle, 2x a week is gtg, but you do you.
1) You made me laugh, yeah that's pretty much my labs
2) Made the switch a few minutes ago
3) Switching to 29g, got it
4) I'll have my ai on hand, already was planning to get my labs done a month in
5) I'm going to start off with daily pins and if it's a pain in the ass (no pun intended) I'll switch to 2x a week
Thanks for the help.
 
1) You made me laugh, yeah that's pretty much my labs
2) Made the switch a few minutes ago
3) Switching to 29g, got it
4) I'll have my ai on hand, already was planning to get my labs done a month in
5) I'm going to start off with daily pins and if it's a pain in the ass (no pun intended) I'll switch to 2x a week
Thanks for the help.

MWF works too. I usually do that when on blast to break up the larger amounts of oil.
 
1) You made me laugh, yeah that's pretty much my labs
2) Made the switch a few minutes ago
3) Switching to 29g, got it
4) I'll have my ai on hand, already was planning to get my labs done a month in
5) I'm going to start off with daily pins and if it's a pain in the ass (no pun intended) I'll switch to 2x a week
Thanks for the help.
Pretty good cycle design though to be honest though bro in terms of ancillaries, getting bloodwork and going into it with a plan. Good luck enjoy it and take advantage of the gains
 
Hey guys, I'm extraz, relatively new to the forum but I've been doing plenty of research for the past few months and want to begin my first cycle. I'm definitely less educated than most of the users on here, so I'm looking for some constructive criticism on what my next steps should be.

Before I start all of this I'm going to get bloodwork to see my:
T, Free T, E2, SHBG, T3, T4, Liver Panel (AST,ALT,ALP) Lipid Panel (Cholesterol, HDL,LDL,Triglycerides, C/HDL Ratio, Non-HDL Cholesterol) Basic Metabolic Panel + Blood Counts and my CBC.
Surprisingly for all of this its like $170, I found a great site.

My Cycle Plan:
490 mg Test P (70 mg daily injections - morning) for 12 weeks. Side Note: I saw a story on someone using 200mg/ml concentration of Test P and having a really rough time with PIP, I'm personally going to go with 100mg/ml.
6 iu gh - daily at night (6 iu is probably the most I'll go up to)
250 iu HCG 3x a week - morning (seen a lot on HCG, 250 iu doesn't effect e2 as much as higher doses do and keeps the testes alive)
12.5 mg aromasin 3x a week on hand (will decide to use after I get my bloodwork done 4-6 weeks on cycle, depends how I aromatize)
After 12 weeks I'm going to just chill on 280mg (40mg daily - morning) for the next few months

Going to be injecting with this since I'm doing relatively small injections due to the half life Test P has (a friend uses this, he highly suggested it):
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Ancillaries + Supplements (with a short explanation on why I'm taking it + sources)

Morning (upon waking)​

Telmisartan 40 mg – Empty stomach
ARB that lowers blood pressure and improves insulin sensitivity to counter androgen-induced hypertension
source

Morning (with/after breakfast)​

Ezetimibe 10 mg – With food
Blocks intestinal cholesterol absorption to reduce LDL by 15–25%, protecting cardiovascular health
source
Fish oil 2 g EPA+DHA – With fatty meal
Lowers triglycerides and provides anti-inflammatory omega-3s to support heart health on cycle
source
TUDCA 250 mg – First dose with breakfast
Reduces ER stress and liver enzyme elevation from hormones/meds, supporting liver regeneration
source
CoQ10 100 mg – With fatty meal
Mitochondrial antioxidant that supports energy production and counters statin-like lipid effects
source

Evening (with/after dinner)​

TUDCA 250 mg – Second dose with dinner
Maintains steady hepatoprotection throughout day, split dosing prevents GI upset
source
Isotretinoin 10 mg – With fatty meal
Low-dose acne control
source

Night (30–60 min before bed)​

Melatonin 100 mg – Right before bed
Regulates sleep-wake cycle and provides antioxidant support (megadose, monitor side effects)
100mg is a lot but I saw multiple studies that found great benefits. If it's not for me I'll throw it out.
source

Right now I'm running Upper Lower (Upper Monday, Lower Wednesday, Upper Friday) and on my off days (Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday) I do an hour of cardio. I have a clean diet consisting of mainly milk, eggs, cheese, meat (chicken/steak, fish as well) and sometimes rice + avocado (probably 3x a week).
My diet + cardio should keep my health in check and the ancillaries + supplements would help as well.
I'm getting my test + HCG from WWB, ancillaries from indiamart, and supplements from amazon. The HGH market recently has been concerning but I'll probably get WWB's 36 iu kits. If anyone wants to suggest a different source your welcome to, the purity of WWB's test I saw was insanely low (75%).
If I'm doing anything wrong, please let me know. I'm definitely open to learning and taking advice.
your other post about test p 200mg/ml, was that from wwb? can you confirm it's not bunk? it's like their only ester that doesn't have testing
 
your other post about test p 200mg/ml, was that from wwb? can you confirm it's not bunk? it's like their only ester that doesn't have testing
havent seen a test. not gonna buy it just gonna go with test c since its tested and not bunk
 
Hey guys, I'm extraz, relatively new to the forum but I've been doing plenty of research for the past few months and want to begin my first cycle. I'm definitely less educated than most of the users on here, so I'm looking for some constructive criticism on what my next steps should be.


Hey,
Seems Like you did good Research but in my opinion you should start lower an maybe titrate with the time….
Use enanthat or cypionat ester and inject every second day.

Lower your test Dose to about 250 to 300 mg of Long Ester Testo per Week and See what Happens. If it is your First cycle, you will Wonder.

Same with GH. Start at 2IU and titrate 1IU up every Week or Even every second Week Till you reach your Highest Dose. This will minimize your Side effects.

And then you can run your cycle much longer than 12 weeks, since the cycle i describe is your Planned Cruise After the cycle

And if you really Go for GH in your First cycle, you should know, that it will do Not mich for you in 12 weeks. GH is for long Term Abusement

So my clear advise After about 15 years of Experience: start with your Cruise and after 20 weeks, think again if you Need to do bigger dosage.
 
Hey guys, I'm extraz, relatively new to the forum but I've been doing plenty of research for the past few months and want to begin my first cycle. I'm definitely less educated than most of the users on here, so I'm looking for some constructive criticism on what my next steps should be.

Before I start all of this I'm going to get bloodwork to see my:
T, Free T, E2, SHBG, T3, T4, Liver Panel (AST,ALT,ALP) Lipid Panel (Cholesterol, HDL,LDL,Triglycerides, C/HDL Ratio, Non-HDL Cholesterol) Basic Metabolic Panel + Blood Counts and my CBC.
Surprisingly for all of this its like $170, I found a great site.

My Cycle Plan:
490 mg Test P (70 mg daily injections - morning) for 12 weeks. Side Note: I saw a story on someone using 200mg/ml concentration of Test P and having a really rough time with PIP, I'm personally going to go with 100mg/ml.
6 iu gh - daily at night (6 iu is probably the most I'll go up to)
250 iu HCG 3x a week - morning (seen a lot on HCG, 250 iu doesn't effect e2 as much as higher doses do and keeps the testes alive)
12.5 mg aromasin 3x a week on hand (will decide to use after I get my bloodwork done 4-6 weeks on cycle, depends how I aromatize)
After 12 weeks I'm going to just chill on 280mg (40mg daily - morning) for the next few months

Going to be injecting with this since I'm doing relatively small injections due to the half life Test P has (a friend uses this, he highly suggested it):
View attachment 374085

Ancillaries + Supplements (with a short explanation on why I'm taking it + sources)

Morning (upon waking)​

Telmisartan 40 mg – Empty stomach
ARB that lowers blood pressure and improves insulin sensitivity to counter androgen-induced hypertension
source

Morning (with/after breakfast)​

Ezetimibe 10 mg – With food
Blocks intestinal cholesterol absorption to reduce LDL by 15–25%, protecting cardiovascular health
source
Fish oil 2 g EPA+DHA – With fatty meal
Lowers triglycerides and provides anti-inflammatory omega-3s to support heart health on cycle
source
TUDCA 250 mg – First dose with breakfast
Reduces ER stress and liver enzyme elevation from hormones/meds, supporting liver regeneration
source
CoQ10 100 mg – With fatty meal
Mitochondrial antioxidant that supports energy production and counters statin-like lipid effects
source

Evening (with/after dinner)​

TUDCA 250 mg – Second dose with dinner
Maintains steady hepatoprotection throughout day, split dosing prevents GI upset
source
Isotretinoin 10 mg – With fatty meal
Low-dose acne control
source

Night (30–60 min before bed)​

Melatonin 100 mg – Right before bed
Regulates sleep-wake cycle and provides antioxidant support (megadose, monitor side effects)
100mg is a lot but I saw multiple studies that found great benefits. If it's not for me I'll throw it out.
source

Right now I'm running Upper Lower (Upper Monday, Lower Wednesday, Upper Friday) and on my off days (Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday) I do an hour of cardio. I have a clean diet consisting of mainly milk, eggs, cheese, meat (chicken/steak, fish as well) and sometimes rice + avocado (probably 3x a week).
My diet + cardio should keep my health in check and the ancillaries + supplements would help as well.
I'm getting my test + HCG from WWB, ancillaries from indiamart, and supplements from amazon. The HGH market recently has been concerning but I'll probably get WWB's 36 iu kits. If anyone wants to suggest a different source your welcome to, the purity of WWB's test I saw was insanely low (75%).
If I'm doing anything wrong, please let me know. I'm definitely open to learning and taking advice.
In my opinion you are overcomplicating things.

Im not really a big fan of Test P because in my experience the big peaks will result in more aromatization and mental sides (at low dosages meaning TRT its superior though).
Also i would pin HCG everyday because again it reduces aromatization.
On top of that i would take a shittone of bioavaible zinc and hope to get away withoit an AI
 
also, if you are not trully lean and wanna cruise after, start at 200-250mg or whatever cruise dose you choose and cut hard first.
ive made a mistake that i thought that i was lean (i was not) and started bulking. ended up with hba1c at 5.7 and fat fat.

you will respond to drugs and food much much better when you start with low bf%.
Plus hcg during the cruising
 
the guy wants wo add isotretinoin, ezetimibe and telmisartan with just test and gh, YOU DONT NEED THEM IF U DONT HAVE SIDE EFFETCS THAT CANT BE CONTROLLED WITH SUPPS, DIET AND ROUTINE CHANGES! also put the ai in low dose and the go for bloods with 500mg test for 95% of population u need ai, dont wait to skyrocket ur estrogen get the side effects and then try to get it in range. i would add proviron too. diet should be 200% aw sleep as traiing and u will get better. for acne prevention lets get isotret, ohh my g00dddd rtd looksmaxxing kid
 
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