SmallTitsIRL
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I get your point, but if on a cruise your LDL is 60 without a statin, why would you keep the statin in? That's my way of thought. Do not use drugs unnecessarily, this is my recommendation, not what I do to be precise.
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Who here is on a statin?
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Billbo98
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Most have an LDL of 60 only because of the use of a statin. My point being is we pump our bodies with bath tub brew regularly we shouldn’t be afraid of running a statin indefinitely. I get your point I’m just saying I wouldn’t say it applies to statins per se.
SmallTitsIRL
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You do have a point there. Hmm and knowing that there's no lower-limit on LDL, running it during a cruise a cruise may actually be better long term. You're right.
What studies show ie from large trials (like IMPROVE-IT, FOURIER, and others) consistently show:
So the difference between 60 and 40 for example ≈ 10–12% relative reduction in major cardiovascular events.
For me the risk return ratio is in the get ldl as low as possible camp
- Every ~39 mg/dL (1 mmol/L) drop in LDL leads to a ~20–25% relative reduction in major CV events
- The benefit continues even below 70 mg/dL
- No clear “harm threshold” has been seen down to ~20–30 mg/dL in trials
So the difference between 60 and 40 for example ≈ 10–12% relative reduction in major cardiovascular events.
For me the risk return ratio is in the get ldl as low as possible camp
newguy2
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Anyone splitting Pita pills themselves in half? I think I bought the 4mg and don’t want to start there.
Could also just take it EOD without splitting.
newguy2
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Just got home and the ones I have are actually scored.
frofrank
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I don't see a reason to take them out if you're not getting sides, however my thought process has always been is your cruise should be your health phase and your health phase should be dropping everything enough that brings your numbers into range. Shouldn't need all the extras to bring them down if on true TRT.
See all these guys with 300+mg cruises but still needing meds to keep them in range, not doing themselves any favors IMO.
Innocent Bystander
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Damn. I take the rosuvastatin and ezetimibe, but repatha is freaking expensive. Nice job crushing LDL that low. No ASCVD for you.
Innocent Bystander
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Not covering apob is bullshit. Numerous trials have shown it to be more predictive than LDL-C.
What about Astaxanthin, it's 100x stronger than vitamin E at preventing lipid oxidation and lowers inflammation
just some dude
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I’m crushing LDL all the way, yet I think this:
Astaxanthin is the cherry on top. I know it’s very powerful, but it becomes much more powerful when you address the root cause of the inflammation.
Ghoul mentioned that the rotting LDL can be extremely inflammatory, like visceral fat can be. He also said that Pitavastatin can lower inflammation by 50% by dissolving LDL.
Who knows for certain, but in terms of inflammation improvement, I would definitely choose both sups + meds, instead of one or the other.
With just Astaxanthin, it felt like constantly blasting a high pressure hose onto a fire. But with these “sprinkler systems” installed (addressing root causes of the inflammation), I feel like it’s much more predictable to stabilize your inflammation, plaque, etc, rather than to play whack-a-mole with it.
BendigoShafter
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Probably. One year of atorvastatin cost $10 from India.
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So the real question is if India was cheaper on something that's not preferred by insurance and requires a special authorization/ step therapy to get... like pitavastin or ezitimide?
One year supply of atorvastatin from Mark Cubans Pharmacy would be less than $30 plus the $5 shipping fee...so then India would be cheaper...except my insurance would pay for atorvastatin or rosuvastatin which would make legit american pharmacies free...
So the real question is if India was cheaper on something that's not preferred by insurance and requires a special authorization/ step therapy to get... like pitavastin or ezitimide?
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That's what is was thinking adding astaxanthin...not a replacement lol
BendigoShafter
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It's going to be cheaper from India in almost all cases. Ezetimibe is $6 per 100 pills. Pita 4mg is $28 per 100 pills.
