Joejoebaggin's HRT Log

[joejoebaggins]

Yep, as I thought so. The skinny frame and pouch/belly handles, lack of body hair, lack of acne, smaller frame(145 at 5'11?) Joey you have probably always had low androgenic hormones from day one.

Don't put much stock in the hand/wrist thing - you might just have smaller hands. Or well developed forearms/wrists(common in guitar players)

Just stick with it and keep educating yourself. Get an E2 number ASAP.

Please for the love of god don't tell me you wear a studded belt and tight jeans [)]

Band influences?

It makes total sense...

I'm awaiting my doctor to call me back with whether or not they can do Rhein labs or not, but I might just go in this week and get blood done because I'm sick of waiting.

Plymouth, i want to have a solid game plan next time I go visit my doc. I'm going to push really hard for 1g ED of topical Preg especially since that should help my body make hormones correct?

The fork in the road is whether or not to stick with injections knowing damn well that I will not be able to continue HCG or to get on compounded T cream. I don't mind injections, but would i be able to get a high enough dose to effectively raise my DHT?

Hmm influences... The bands influences are mainly Journey, Jimmy Eat World, and big melodic rock bands.

I'm personally really into Interpol, Cursive, and Tool.

No studded belts here my friend

 

[JanSz]

It makes total sense...

I'm awaiting my doctor to call me back with whether or not they can do Rhein labs or not, but I might just go in this week and get blood done because I'm sick of waiting.

Plymouth, i want to have a solid game plan next time I go visit my doc. I'm going to push really hard for 1g ED of topical Preg especially since that should help my body make hormones correct?

The fork in the road is whether or not to stick with injections knowing damn well that I will not be able to continue HCG or to get on compounded T cream. I don't mind injections, but would i be able to get a high enough dose to effectively raise my DHT?

Hmm influences... The bands influences are mainly Journey, Jimmy Eat World, and big melodic rock bands.

I'm personally really into Interpol, Cursive, and Tool.

No studded belts here my friend

I use Genova labs rather than Rhein labs.
I am waiting for results of
Estroessence
and
(GDX - Metabolic Analysis Profile) including (GDX - Cellular Energy Profile)
check my post #44
https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/66268-jans-bloodtest-april13-2.html
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only transdermals raise DHT, androgel does the best job at it

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After my lattest test, post #62
I increased from 1 to 2 grams of prescription pregnenolone cream, 100mg/1gram.
I suggest that you start with 2 grams and adjust latter.

 

[joejoebaggins]

I use Genova labs rather than Rhein labs.
I am waiting for results of
Estroessence
and
(GDX - Metabolic Analysis Profile) including (GDX - Cellular Energy Profile)
check my post #44
https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/66268-jans-bloodtest-april13-2.html
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only transdermals raise DHT, androgel does the best job at it

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After my lattest test, post #62
I increased from 1 to 2 grams of prescription pregnenolone cream, 100mg/1gram.
I suggest that you start with 2 grams and adjust latter.

For the most part I'm paying a huge chunk of the urine/blood tests as well as any meds. How much more expensive is Genova compared to a standard blood/urine test? My doctor does use Genova so I could get this done pretty soon.

Isn't the full Estroessence assay pretty pricey?

The problem with androgel is it's also expensive and i dont think my insurance will pay for that either (i have a huge deductible). I know compounded T cream is cheaper...but not as strong.

I would love to start off at 2g, the problem is more my doctor, he wouldnt even let me get one gram much less 2.

 

[joejoebaggins]

Also

I was experienceing EXTREMELY dry skin from my dose of .25mg Arimidex EOD. It snuck up on me and BAM... really dry skin. I have decided to take .25mg E4D.

Now this completely screws things up. Should i stop taking arimidex, wait two weeks and get E2 tested. Or keep taking Arimidex and wait two weeks and get tested?

 

[pmgamer18]

Also

I was experienceing EXTREMELY dry skin from my dose of .25mg Arimidex EOD. It snuck up on me and BAM... really dry skin. I have decided to take .25mg E4D.

Now this completely screws things up. Should i stop taking arimidex, wait two weeks and get E2 tested. Or keep taking Arimidex and wait two weeks and get tested?

Try some Fish OIl it helps with dry skin, Depression, heart, sore joints and muscles. Dry skin can be your Thyroid changing. I take 3 of this brand it does not come up on you.
Costco - Kirkland Signature™ Enteric Coated Fish Oil Concentrate 200 Softgels

I would stay on Arimidex unless your morning and night time wood stoped.

 

[joejoebaggins]

Thanks PM.

I'm currently taking 3g a day of Carlson's Finest Cod Liver Oil so no problem there. I think i just went too low on my E2. Apparently I'm ultra sensitive to Arimidex.

My doctor currently has me on 50mg of ORAL preg. When i see him i want to get a script for "compounded pregnenolone cream 100mg/1gram" is this 100mg of cream... or 1g?

When i told him 1g over the phone he seemed to think i was insane.

 

[JanSz]

For the most part I'm paying a huge chunk of the urine/blood tests as well as any meds. How much more expensive is Genova compared to a standard blood/urine test? My doctor does use Genova so I could get this done pretty soon.

Isn't the full Estroessence assay pretty pricey?

The problem with androgel is it's also expensive and i dont think my insurance will pay for that either (i have a huge deductible). I know compounded T cream is cheaper...but not as strong.

I would love to start off at 2g, the problem is more my doctor, he wouldnt even let me get one gram much less 2.

Instead of androgel use compounded cream or gel.
I was using originally 10grams of Androgel.
Replaced it with 1gram og 100mg/1gram cream (equal amount of testosterone)
My TotalT dropped to less than half of previous level.
My DHT also dropped almost proportionately.
Tcreme is inexpensive when coparing to Androgel.
Try 2grams first, adjust as you go.
Spread over the largest possible area.
Use 5% cream or gel so you have some volume of product to spread.
Start with genitals plus anal area.
Not sure, but possibly arm pit area is also good, just shave first.

(We are talking about increasing DHT)

 

[joejoebaggins]

Jansz, I just wrote all of that down and will request it this doctors visit. Thank you.

I'm going to call my doc shortly to request blood/urine tests.

This is what I was planning on

E2 (Genova Urine)
Free T3 (Blood)
DHT (Blood)


Do I need anything else?

 

[JanSz]

Jansz, I just wrote all of that down and will request it this doctors visit. Thank you.

I'm going to call my doc shortly to request blood/urine tests.

This is what I was planning on

E2 (Genova Urine)
Free T3 (Blood)
DHT (Blood)


Do I need anything else?

Save money, do your testing 3 weeks after you settle on routine with Tcream or T gel.

Then (if you want short test)
do only blood test at Quest

Estradiol, Free, LC/MS/MS (36169X)
Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)
Dihydrotestosterone, Free, Serum (36168X)
FreeT3
FreeT4

as you know, even on my short tests I check more than that.

 

[joejoebaggins]

Thanks for the help Jansz.

Would i notice a boost with 50mg of Preg Cream? I don't think he's going to budge on the dose.

Jansz, where do you apply the preg cream, arms?

 

[JanSz]

Thanks for the help Jansz.

Would i notice a boost with 50mg of Preg Cream? I don't think he's going to budge on the dose.

Jansz, where do you apply the preg cream, arms?

I apply the preg cream to my thigh then spread it with the other thigh.

100mg was not enough for me.
I am using 200mg now.
That is I am applying 2grams of 100mg/1gram cream.

 

[joejoebaggins]

I apply the preg cream to my thigh then spread it with the other thigh.

100mg was not enough for me.
I am using 200mg now.
That is I am applying 2grams of 100mg/1gram cream.

I can't thank you guys enough for you help. I'll give everyone an update after i get back from my doctor's office later this week.

 

[JanSz]

I can't thank you guys enough for you help. I'll give everyone an update after i get back from my doctor's office later this week.

Sorry, I have mis spoken.
Change thigh to calf.
I apply cream to my calfs.

Do not wait long, keep us posted on your progress.

 

[jaydee]

What are you going to do about your DHT?

 

[JanSz]

What are you going to do about your DHT?

Not sure who you ask that question.
My DHT was 3x over the top range while on transdermals.
My DHT went back to normal after I went on injectable Testosterone.
My Aug30/07 results are on post #62, April/07 on post #1
https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/66268-jans-bloodtest-april13-3.html

 

[jaydee]

Sorry Jansz it was meant for Joebaggins. Im wondering what he plans to do about his very low DHT level.

 

[JanSz]

Sorry Jansz it was meant for Joebaggins. Im wondering what he plans to do about his very low DHT level.

I also wonder.
The best would be Androgel applied directly on scrotal area.
Second best, any other transdermal, due to cost of Androgel.
The more diluted the better because he would have to use larger skin area.

 

[joejoebaggins]

Sorry Jansz it was meant for Joebaggins. Im wondering what he plans to do about his very low DHT level.

Hey Jaydee,

My plan right now is to ask my doctor for 5% compounded testosterone cream 100mg/1g and use 2g a day. I will apply it all over my body, but specifically my genitals and anal area.

I'm going to get the T cream from Womans International.

 

[jaydee]

So how much T is that?....it sounds like a lot to start on. The T cream on the nuts is a good idea, but didnt work for me.

 

[plymouth city]

I apply the preg cream to my thigh then spread it with the other thigh.

100mg was not enough for me.
I am using 200mg now.
That is I am applying 2grams of 100mg/1gram cream.

Please note -
JansZ does this because he totes a toddler around all day

It is always best to apply androgenic hormones to the upper body. You want to specifically target your forearms, specifically the underside where the skin is thin.

Apply cream to inside forearm, use other forearm to rub in.

Hopefully you dont have any sleeve tatoos [)]