Firct Cycle Log: Test Cyp w/ Tren Ace

[LifeSize]

At 1pm today I injected 1.5cc into my Upper Left Quad (left-center). It was 1cc of Tren Ace and 0.5cc of Test Cyp. I also took 200mg of DNP this early morning, but I won't be taking anymore the remainder of the cycle.

I sucked 1ml out of my ace vail, 0.5ml out of my cyp vail, recapped, and the damn needle unscrewed, put the same needle back on, and made sure no air was in the needle, lost maybe a drop or two at most of the cyp since the ace was sitting at the bottom.. I decided on my upper left quad, since I'm a righty. I put the needle in till about half-to-quarter inch was still out of me, I aspirated which was hard as hell.. As I injected (took me 20 seconds) I pushed the needle in slowly to disperse the compounds in my tissue. I didn't swap needles, didn't feel a thing, keep in mind I have a great pain tolerance. I used the Z tracking technique to make sure I didn't leak out. Sorta tripped me out because I had to let go the needle and the skin sort of tried to move over, then my quad flexed. I'm looking down on this saying "damn, this is cake". I felt no pain till about now (almost 3pm), it's just sore when I change positions from sitting to standing or vise versa.. It does feel sort of like someone just punched me there, sort of a nagging dull pain.

I will continue EOD shots until week 12.

The fina was done my yours truly, which is what I'm worried most about...not sure how effective (good/potent) it will be. I have some vet grade TrenJect that I can try to compare to... Maybe later on during the cycle..

I feel fine, no changes so far I'm not expecting them to work that fast either.. For the noobs, this is my first run with AAS.

 

[Fraggle]

You don't really need to use either the z-track method or the air bubble lock. If you choose to, I find the air bubble method to be less painful.

Also, I'd make sure you go deep IM, depending on the length of needle, I would make sure no more then 1/4 inch remained outside the body...

 

[LifeSize]

You don't really need to use either the z-track method or the air bubble lock. If you choose to, I find the air bubble method to be less painful.

Also, I'd make sure you go deep IM, depending on the length of needle, I would make sure no more then 1/4 inch remained outside the body...

I started to slow down when I got about half way and it started to feel funny inside.. I worried about pricking a bone and dealing with that pain. I'm sure I was deep enough it's a 1.5" needle, I started to inject when I had .5 inch or less out and as I went injected I inserted the needle all the way to the plastic..

Do the needles have some air bubble mechanism?? I just figured air in my body was a bad thing, right?

 

[dennis]

I started to slow down when I got about half way and it started to feel funny inside.. I worried about pricking a bone and dealing with that pain. I'm sure I was deep enough it's a 1.5" needle, I started to inject when I had .5 inch or less out and as I went injected I inserted the needle all the way to the plastic..

Do the needles have some air bubble mechanism?? I just figured air in my body was a bad thing, right?

The amount of air inside a 23 gauge needle will not be enough to worry about.If you are already sore then just wait till tommorow ! Welcome to the world of anabolics..what is your age again ?How is your sex drive normally ? The first thing you should notice is change in libido,more focus in gym....maybe some agression too.I bet you feel something by day 3-4.......I thought you were going to throw in some prop ???

 

[HDH]

The amount of air inside a 23 gauge needle will not be enough to worry about.If you are already sore then just wait till tommorow ! Welcome to the world of anabolics..what is your age again ?How is your sex drive normally ? The first thing you should notice is change in libido,more focus in gym....maybe some agression too.I bet you feel something by day 3-4.......I thought you were going to throw in some prop ???

I was thinking the same thing. If it hurts after a couple hours you can more than likely expect a rough couple of days

Of course this might not be true for you but the chances are pretty good.

Can you say Test Flu? [)] ......... J/K

HDH

 

[graybass]

I can't wait for this kid to post back!
20yrs of cycling and I still can not handle any kind of quad shot!!!

 

[LifeSize]

Today was shoulders day (military press's till I couldn''t anymore, some side/front/lateral raises, and even thew in some really low one arm rows), my first "enhanced" work out. Definitely had a placebo effect today. Had a great pump, strength was about what it usually is.. My cardio sucked though, I felt like i was gasping for air 10 minutes into my stepper run.. I normally do an intense 20min session post work-out. Is that the Tren? Left leg feels good as long as I don't lean my thigh against anything - which I do often. Mild soreness to the touch...nothing when I flex/walk/shake quad..

Reminder: I'm 26, father of two, and like to bang one out at least every other day, would be daily but since wifey and i are on the fritz it's only when she wants. On average though I blow one off 6 out of the 7 days and some times a few more depending on the day. What I don't have is too much stamina in regards to *when* I climax. I'm not sure if it will get better or worse as the cycle goes on, but I have a big bottle of Dostinex that will put that prolactin in check.

I didn't do the prop just because I didn't think I would need it, since the Tren is fast, and the Cyp will be 125mg EOD, I should be feeling it in 4-5 days. I was hoping to feel it today, but whatever.. Is it really that big of a difference, or am I better off finishing with it??

Lol.. I enjoyed sticking myself, I'd do another one tomorrow but I have a feeling that Prop is going to burn like having to pee with chlamydia.

Wow even Gray came out of the dark for me..you're not scaring me, but I am definitely worried about tomorrow.. Thursday is leg day.. =D

I'll be back in the morning to tell you guys how I feel...

 

[LifeSize]

Good morning peeps, I feel like a million bucks! A little sore in my left thigh sort of similar to the pain from a good leg workout 2 days ago. I got very little sleep last night, had to work from 9pm till around 12am, had to grill some fish, eat, shower, all in all I was in bed at 2am and woke up at 7am..

I'm regretting not shooting the Prop, I was thinking about doing a shot this morning on my way to work but flaked out. No sense in getting all crazy, I can wait a day or two to start feeling the magic.

I'm a little concerned I won't know if the Cyp is good, or if the Tren is under dosed.

I sort of barked at this dude this morning, not really out of character for me but I did reverse about quarter of a block to let him know how I felt - I normally don't care that much. Heh.. I feel a little flushed in the face, it's almost like I feel my blood flowing but it's not an all the time thing, happens when I focus on it. *shrugs*.. Still way to early to tell... (hrmm, some of what I feel may be due to the DNP dying out in me?)..

What are the downsides of running Dostinex now at 0.5mL/week?? No sides yet, obviously..

 

[Fraggle]

Hey Lifesize,

Your right, with 1.5 inch needles you're just fine.

As for 'stamina', I find I am actually more sensitive on test but still last longer. Seems counterintuitive... Once I experience an orgasm, it becomes almost painful to continue moving.

Interestingly, my wife's libido actually goes up when I'm on test. Not sure how that one works, but I have seen research studies suggesting that men with high testosterone are more sexually attractive to women, even if they are in fact ugly old codgers.

I just start TRT this week with test cyp. I've never really had much discomfort from non-pharma products, just a couple hours of ache, but this stuff is magic. No pain, not from the needle or from the displacement of oil or from the product itself. 36 hours later, more energy, more libido, more confidence. Aaahh... The wife sent me a 'dirty' sms and we had playtime when I got off work => better sex and better orgasm, for both of us!

When I was younger I was fairly biased against AAS, now I have difficulty understanding why anyone would be against it. It just makes everything that little bit more golden, work, sex, energy, concentration, exercise, everything!

You're going to fall in love. I'm sure we all have...

 

[Fraggle]

Forget the dostinex unless you need it, and I really don't think you will.

The prop will let you see results quickly, but you're likely to feel different fast from any length ester.

I don't actually get any aggression on tren, I do get aggression when my estradiol levels go up with concurrently high levels of androgens. The one time I've snapped my estradiol had spiked very high during administration of 100mg/day test plus 80mg/day of tren.

This closely matches current medical experiments with genetically engineered mice that had sex hormone receptors and production modified where aggression actually occurred in mice with high estrogen. There were other behavour changes as well indicating that estrogen plays a much more important role then previously thought.

 

[LifeSize]

Forget the dostinex unless you need it, and I really don't think you will.

The prop will let you see results quickly, but you're likely to feel different fast from any length ester.

I don't actually get any aggression on tren, I do get aggression when my estradiol levels go up with concurrently high levels of androgens. The one time I've snapped my estradiol had spiked very high during administration of 100mg/day test plus 80mg/day of tren.

This closely matches current medical experiments with genetically engineered mice that had sex hormone receptors and production modified where aggression actually occurred in mice with high estrogen. There were other behavour changes as well indicating that estrogen plays a much more important role then previously thought.

Are ya saying I may be having a mild E lash out? It's only been been about 23hrs, so im not really worried, just really in tune to everything I feel that isn't normal.. Right now I'm feeling like "hrmm.. this is it?" but it's obviously too soon.

 

[LayinLo]

Lifesize, I'm definitely tuning in. This will be interesting.


I may have missed it in another thread, but what influenced your decision to run tren in your first cycle? Not busting on ya, just curious.




Oh, did you take some before pics?

 

[LifeSize]

Lifesize, I'm definitely tuning in. This will be interesting.

I may have missed it in another thread, but what influenced your decision to run tren in your first cycle? Not busting on ya, just curious.

Oh, did you take some before pics?

I had started another thread to use as a log and it turned into a Q&A about what I was doing and how I was going to go about it, and pretty much just using all the advice on here to make a plan. I scrapped that thread... In that thread Solo asked me the same thing.. My response is my main goal right now is recomposition, I want to look pumped and vascular and at least 10lbs (of fat) leaner. Tren is the best thing to help me do this. I don't get any sides from anything, and I've done quite a bit of things. I ran DNP for damn near 30 days and dealt with all the sleepless sweaty nights anyone could imagine, and I loved it - yes I'm one of those that feel good on DNP.. Quite honestly the reasons everyone considers Tren the Holy Grail of ASS totally out-weigh the possible sides - which I think people exaggerate some but I'll be able to confirm that in a couple of weeks. I know my goals.. The drugs that meet my needs are Test, EQ, Tren, Masteron - I have plenty to play with in regards to cycle options..

What sucks is the fact I have no clue what the exact mg/mL are since I home brewed. Considering that I used only 38-39mL of oil, and let it do it's thing for over 72hrs, I assume it's like at 70-90mg/mL. I have some bottles of TrenJect that I will probably use to see where my shit stands..

I'm going to take some tonight, I have a few from pre-dnp, and post-dnp.. Crazy, I had no clue I was holding that much BF really..

I know my diet will be a deciding factor in my gains, im not really sure if I want to eat all out and let the Tren do the hardwork, or watch my intake and let my diet show me the money.

I'm hoping to go from 203@ 14% (guess) to 210-215 @ 10%...

 

[Fraggle]

No on the estradiol issues. Just sharing my own experience.

The main psychological effect I experience is intensity. I become very, very intense. My concentration and focus both go up. My work is very complicated and involves cutting edge technology, test makes me phenomenally more effective.

 

[Fraggle]

I have found that tren suppresses my appetite a lot. You may find it difficult to eat as much as you want. It also impacts my cardiovascular endurance. I actually get a little wheezy while running.

If your primary goal is weight loss / body recomposition you'll have to keep the diet clean while pushing yourself through cardio despite the 'asthmatic-like' effect.

 

[LayinLo]

I have found that tren suppresses my appetite a lot. You may find it difficult to eat as much as you want. It also impacts my cardiovascular endurance. I actually get a little wheezy while running.

If your primary goal is weight loss / body recomposition you'll have to keep the diet clean while pushing yourself through cardio despite the 'asthmatic-like' effect.

Never done tren, but I've read many instances of this. My source even tells me he can't do cardio while on it.





We'd love to see some progress pics when you get further along in the cycle. I'm glad you have a plan as to what you want and what will help you get there. Keep us posted....and we'll be pulling for ya!

 

[solo47]

I have seen research studies suggesting that men with high testosterone are more sexually attractive to women, even if they are in fact ugly old codgers.

Ooo yeah!

Solo

 

[LifeSize]

ugh.. my leg is significantly more sore than it was an hour ago. no redness, no bruising, no itching.. I also just forced down two cups of rice a chicken breast and two tomatoes, almost felt gagged at the end of my plate but I pulled through..

Solo! Glad you could make it sir!! I'm really looking forward to todays gym session..and more importantly tomorrows injection...

 

[LifeSize]

Alright day 3, 2nd injection..

Yesterday was leg day, I did pretty much everything (seated leg press, front squat machine, calf press, leg extension, leg curl) to failure 3 times and took a good 15 minute break and cranked out a 4x8 set of regular leg press.. I was having some walking problems on my way out of the gym. I had a lb of tilapia, a glass of 2% milk, and 2hrs later I had 3 scoops of infusion before bed. Passed out, and was woken up an hour into my sleep by work....had to stay up till 2am. I woke up this morning had 4 egg whites and one whole egg, 4oz of sliced turkey breast, half a cup of oats w/ 2oz of 2% milk and a handful of peanuts. The shot went well, this time I drew the Cyp out first, and the Ace last. The needle was a bit crooked at the luer lock, I may have over tightened. I said fuck it I'll make sure to leave a quarter inch out. I flex, and I went into the upper right quad, I aspirated and got bubbles of air in the syringe. No blood, all good right? I take my time and plunge slow..20 secs I'm done. I used the Z tracking thing again, helps tighten the skin. I could smell the alcohol from the gear like deep in my throat, then I got a funny taste in my mouth. After about 10-15 minutes it fucking hurts to sit. Now 2hrs later I still have a pretty intense shooting pain down from my quad (sore) to my knee (sharp/sore) and then down to my shin (pulsing/sharp). I'm not worried. But I just realized I didn't tap the needle and let out all the air - that's what came back when I aspirated. I also think I went a little higher to my hip on the right than I did on the left. It's a less meaty spot. I may have gotten close to the bone or grazed a nerve or something? Btw, left quad (first injection site) feels good. Doesn't bother when I walk, a little sore to the touch, I wouldn't inject there again yet though..

How much is left in the needle/tip after a complete injection. I can't shoot it out, but I can see it in the luer lock.

How bad is it that I didn't tap and release the air in the syringe? Could it be why it hurt so much more today than my first shot?

I guess the next two spots would be left glue/right glute right?

I'm a little more snappy on the road and in conversation..nothing too crazy but I'll be making sure to keep an eye on my temper. I have a shitty disposition as it is... I'm not letting anyone know I'm on, two people know I'm prepping to do a cycle. I want to see if they, knowing I planned to, actually look like I'm On. I notice I get a bit more vascular doing simple things...walking makes all of my forearm veins come out.. too soon?? I'd even say my traps look a little sharper. Then again I just probably let loose the water form my 4 days on DNP?

scale sits at 201 this morning, down 2lbs.

 

[dennis]

Alright day 3, 2nd injection..

Yesterday was leg day, I did pretty much everything (seated leg press, front squat machine, calf press, leg extension, leg curl) to failure 3 times and took a good 15 minute break and cranked out a 4x8 set of regular leg press.. I was having some walking problems on my way out of the gym. I had a lb of tilapia, a glass of 2% milk, and 2hrs later I had 3 scoops of infusion before bed. Passed out, and was woken up an hour into my sleep by work....had to stay up till 2am. I woke up this morning had 4 egg whites and one whole egg, 4oz of sliced turkey breast, half a cup of oats w/ 2oz of 2% milk and a handful of peanuts. The shot went well, this time I drew the Cyp out first, and the Ace last. The needle was a bit crooked at the luer lock, I may have over tightened. I said fuck it I'll make sure to leave a quarter inch out. I flex, and I went into the upper right quad, I aspirated and got bubbles of air in the syringe. No blood, all good right? I take my time and plunge slow..20 secs I'm done. I used the Z tracking thing again, helps tighten the skin. I could smell the alcohol from the gear like deep in my throat, then I got a funny taste in my mouth. After about 10-15 minutes it fucking hurts to sit. Now 2hrs later I still have a pretty intense shooting pain down from my quad (sore) to my knee (sharp/sore) and then down to my shin (pulsing/sharp). I'm not worried. But I just realized I didn't tap the needle and let out all the air - that's what came back when I aspirated. I also think I went a little higher to my hip on the right than I did on the left. It's a less meaty spot. I may have gotten close to the bone or grazed a nerve or something? Btw, left quad (first injection site) feels good. Doesn't bother when I walk, a little sore to the touch, I wouldn't inject there again yet though..

How much is left in the needle/tip after a complete injection. I can't shoot it out, but I can see it in the luer lock.

How bad is it that I didn't tap and release the air in the syringe? Could it be why it hurt so much more today than my first shot?

I guess the next two spots would be left glue/right glute right?

I'm a little more snappy on the road and in conversation..nothing too crazy but I'll be making sure to keep an eye on my temper. I have a shitty disposition as it is... I'm not letting anyone know I'm on, two people know I'm prepping to do a cycle. I want to see if they, knowing I planned to, actually look like I'm On. I notice I get a bit more vascular doing simple things...walking makes all of my forearm veins come out.. too soon?? I'd even say my traps look a little sharper. Then again I just probably let loose the water form my 4 days on DNP?

scale sits at 201 this morning, down 2lbs.

It says you "flexed"and went into upper right quad...do not flex bro..stay totally relaxed..wherever you did first inject just keep using that same location(just switch legs) because it did not hurt you there.The alchohol taste is common..good thing you did not start to cough..it will freak the hell out of you when that happens.Do not worry about the air in the needle..it is not enough to worry about.There is not enough juice left in needle/luer lock to worry about either.Damn..all this talk about needles is making me want to go inject....