Firct Cycle Log: Test Cyp w/ Tren Ace

[LifeSize]

It says you "flexed"and went into upper right quad...do not flex bro..stay totally relaxed..wherever you did first inject just keep using that same location(just switch legs) because it did not hurt you there.The alchohol taste is common..good thing you did not start to cough..it will freak the hell out of you when that happens.Do not worry about the air in the needle..it is not enough to worry about.There is not enough juice left in needle/luer lock to worry about either.Damn..all this talk about needles is making me want to go inject....

that is how I did it the first time.. I don't think I flexed as hard though. I think I just missed my mark a little and I did go in deeper this time. I'm hoping I don't ever get the cough, anyone had a really bad experience? I'd like to think about what I read happened to you guys while I'm coughing myself. Lol.. I'm role playing the ass injection i'll be giving myself the day after tomorrow...looks complicated and I may need to push that fucking needle deep to get through my bulbous posterior. How the hell do you aspirate? I need to use two hands and a good tug to do it now in my quads.

Hrmm.. I dunno, I think I need more food.. All this talk of people gaining 15lbs on a cycle and dropping back down to 8 lbs a year after is sort of discouraging me about trying to diet and maintain a decent bf.. I may open the flood gates, at least on the weekend.

I'm a little horny also, but I have been put on restriction as of 3 days ago so i'm backed up as it is. Should I be feeling anything??

Tonight is chest again, maybe do some arm bullshit to razzle dazzle myself with a pump. I like how i'm thinking mood seems elevated... not really sure though... I know the compounds half lifes but when are they in full swing in my body is a guess.. 3-10 days maybe?

 

[Fraggle]

Air isn't going to be a problem at all. You essentially have to use almost an entire drip line full into your vein before you are going reach the point where pulmonary embolism or stroke become an issue.

I never z-track, I always use excess air in the syringe that pushes the entire quantity of oil out through the needle and 'locks' the contents inside the muscle.

I've also never had the kind of pain you described. Definitely stay relaxed, put the needle in slowly and inject very slowly.

The depth you need to go depends on how much visceral fat you have. Basically you need to go into the muscle belly, so it become dependent on you. I use a 1" needle, but I'm also ~6% body fat.

 

[Fraggle]

For test cyp peak is 48-72 hours, with steady decline after that. EQ is a bit longer, tren ace is hours.

You'd definitely notice something, and it sounds like you have. It's hard to describe, everything just works better, sex, memory, concentration, focus, confidence, everything. It's fantastic.

 

[LifeSize]

Air isn't going to be a problem at all. You essentially have to use almost an entire drip line full into your vein before you are going reach the point where pulmonary embolism or stroke become an issue.

I never z-track, I always use excess air in the syringe that pushes the entire quantity of oil out through the needle and 'locks' the contents inside the muscle.

I've also never had the kind of pain you described. Definitely stay relaxed, put the needle in slowly and inject very slowly.

The depth you need to go depends on how much visceral fat you have. Basically you need to go into the muscle belly, so it become dependent on you. I use a 1" needle, but I'm also ~6% body fat.

im at a higher bf but my legs are super lean. I use 1.5" and go in 1.25" because I was told to do so . The first injection I did 1" in, and as I started to push I pushed the needle the other .25" in.. leaving a .25" exposed.. It's comforting to know that you need a lot of air into your vein to cause a problem. But you don't worry about causing an infection since your leaving unsterilized air in your muscle?

The pain has subsided, a few trips up and down the stairs, a hot shower, feels fine now..sore but not bothersome..

The feeling of the shots in my legs have been like a constant reminder to stay focused.. diet has been really easy to adhere to.. and im very motivated..almost as if I wasn't doing anything at all yet (anticipation?)..

 

[dennis]

Life..I got the cough 1 time bro..actually was thinking I was going to die for sure..it is the worst feeling ever..good thing it only lasted about 3 minutes.HDH describes it best when he compares it to having an anvil dropped on your chest.Use a mirror when hitting the glutes bro.

 

[LifeSize]

For test cyp peak is 48-72 hours, with steady decline after that. EQ is a bit longer, tren ace is hours.

You'd definitely notice something, and it sounds like you have. It's hard to describe, everything just works better, sex, memory, concentration, focus, confidence, everything. It's fantastic.

I'm not looking down when I walk! Something I've always done, and always nagged myself about, but always do. Damn good deal.. so that's probably the Test...

I'm trying to figure out the differences in the compounds, but I don't have any control to go from

 

[LifeSize]

Life..I got the cough 1 time bro..actually was thinking I was going to die for sure..it is the worst feeling ever..good thing it only lasted about 3 minutes.HDH describes it best when he compares it to having an anvil dropped on your chest.Use a mirror when hitting the glutes bro.

crap dude not looking forward to that.. that sounds like a panic attack waiting to trigger a tachycardia! Lol.. No pain, no gain. We ride on. The mirror thing is easier said than done, how do you aspirate with control. I don't like the feeling of the needle moving side to side in me - and it happens slightly in my quads with full control..

do you wake up with a pump when On? I haven't worked my arms out directly since last Friday and today I woke up with my biceps and triceps pumped, and i think i already mentioned my traps sharpening up a bit. Maybe I'm over zealous.

 

[dennis]

crap dude not looking forward to that.. that sounds like a panic attack waiting to trigger a tachycardia! Lol.. No pain, no gain. We ride on. The mirror thing is easier said than done, how do you aspirate with control. I don't like the feeling of the needle moving side to side in me - and it happens slightly in my quads with full control..

do you wake up with a pump when On? I haven't worked my arms out directly since last Friday and today I woke up with my biceps and triceps pumped, and i think i already mentioned my traps sharpening up a bit. Maybe I'm over zealous.

About the glutes shot in mirror..practice makes perfect..it gets easier with time.I use my quads about 75 % of the time..it is just easier for me there.I do wake up on cycle feeling fuller and tighter/pumped..That is when I pose in mirror..the abs really look good early am !

 

[LifeSize]

About the glutes shot in mirror..practice makes perfect..it gets easier with time.I use my quads about 75 % of the time..it is just easier for me there.I do wake up on cycle feeling fuller and tighter/pumped..That is when I pose in mirror..the abs really look good early am !

The pain i'm feeling is that a normal thing with all compounds, or is the Test or Tren causing more of it? I heard prop was painless and my first shot the Tren was the last to go through and it was really painless.. Todays was vise versa, plus I went a little deeper, and probably a little higher so I had less meat to play with..

If my quads are up for it I will do another one there.. maybe split it up and do the test in my delt, and the tren in my other delt.. this way I can assess which is the more painful one?

dunno.. i feel like injecting myself again though.. lol.. ed injects would be a piece of cake, but the prop pain probably would not be sweet at all. lol..

im off to hit the weights, chest day..

im very happy today, weird but i was smiling in the car, listening to music i never have enjoyed before..

still anxious to know what I have in my vials is legit/potent.

 

[LifeSize]

I'm sure its legit, the Tren may be not so potent.. The cyp might be under dosed? Who know.. I sort of assumed I was supposed to feel something different by today.. I seem to be reacting to food, like I eat and I looked pumped in 20min..more than usual.. Then again i'm slamming the carbs down and thats out of context for me..

I need to order pins, I only have enough to get me through my next 5 injections.. I can get some locally (drive north for an hour) should I need to but I'd rather just mail-order a box for me... 3cc, 23ga, Luer Lock, a box of 100 for 30 bucks.. Holler at me via pm if you've got a better option.

In anticipation of my HCG schedule, what type of pins should I get. I know I need insulin needles, but what size/diameter/etc.. No sense in placing two orders..

Hrmm looking at the prices for slin pins I may just go pick a couple up locally since I won't need that many.. 100ct for 30 bucks is a bit much when I will need 10..

I'm very excited, so i'll probably post an update this weekend.. Holler bros, stay safe!

 

[dennis]

The pain i'm feeling is that a normal thing with all compounds, or is the Test or Tren causing more of it? I heard prop was painless and my first shot the Tren was the last to go through and it was really painless.. Todays was vise versa, plus I went a little deeper, and probably a little higher so I had less meat to play with..

If my quads are up for it I will do another one there.. maybe split it up and do the test in my delt, and the tren in my other delt.. this way I can assess which is the more painful one?

dunno.. i feel like injecting myself again though.. lol.. ed injects would be a piece of cake, but the prop pain probably would not be sweet at all. lol..

im off to hit the weights, chest day..

im very happy today, weird but i was smiling in the car, listening to music i never have enjoyed before..

still anxious to know what I have in my vials is legit/potent.

any and all gear can be painfull bro..just depends on how it is made and mg per ml concentrations etc.....I would avoid delt shots like the plague if I were you and stick to glutes/ and mostly quads.The slins I use are 27 gauge 1 ml..make sure you get the ones that have removable needle and not fixed needles.If you just want to inject more often go get a bottle of b12 and use that.The tren is going to make you feel like superman..just wait bro..it is the best feeling in the world.

 

[LifeSize]

went out last night... very interesting evening but i'll skip the details.. i felt like i was being stared at often.. i got lots of hello's and smiles.. i even went to the strip club and it was a totally different experience.. I probably spent 100 bucks and it was the funnest night Ive ever had there.. I literally socialized with these women.. I was very interested but not super aroused.. Like I was horny in my head, but not in my pants.. It felt like they were actually interested in me, I got two REAL LIFE names, and even offered a phone number..we joked, we kid, we had a few drinks, a drink was bought for me.. like totally different experience that ive ever had in a situation ive been in various times.. placebo???

had a geat chest and arm work out yesterday, 185lb decline for 5 sets of 20.. I mean I did more sets before that but thats the most weight Ive ever done at that volume.. I definitely felt like I was pushing myself more. My one arm rows are what they have always been 80lb for at least 12 reps.. BUT I was able to do that at the end of my work out, I tend to do those on my 2nd or 3rd movement on back day.. I just decided to throw em in for shits n giggles..

when I was done I looked pumped all over, I looked like i was up 10lbs.. we all look bigger after a work out, but I did this same work out on Monday (I bang out chest twice week) and I looked much more swole yesterday than monday..

left leg feels like NEW this morning (as if i never pinned myself), but my fucking right is KILLING me. Like I'm not able to even move the damn thing to walk, im just hobbling/hopping with it. It hurts at the top of my large muscle like 8" from where I injected.. i'll inject in the left quad but lower tomorrow... I think the pain depends on where in the muscle belly I put it.. more caution, less pain next time..

my balls feel a little sensitive to the touch..nothing out of the normal but im watching it.. i don't have huge nuts as it is but im making sure i know when they start to shrink...need to get some hcg soon..

I started this cycle at 203-204 i'm 200lbs even for the last 48hrs..

 

[LifeSize]

Yesterday (06/09) was injection 3, decided on the left quad again since it felt great, woke up at 7am to do that. I'm getting crazy pumps and feel less and less tired when it comes to volume work.. I just did the slowest 100 pushups ever and the burn started at rep 50 and was intense but pleasant till rep 100. I wonder when the Cyp kicks in what the effects will be, should be soon. I'm a little paranoid and I guess it's the Tren... I'm worried about my back being a little oily, I found a zit - which I never get - on my back, and my nipples - not aureoles - are sensitive like I was in the water with a tshirt on....not really bad but enough for me to be thinking about it. Remember I had puberty gyno that was removed when I was a young teen. I'm thinking about starting my Arimidex and Dostinex on my next injection day or tomorrow.

How do you guys feel about recovery from Tren (shutdown) after a 6-8 week run compared to a 10-12?

Arimidex @ 0.25mcg EOD & Dostinex @ .5ml E3D...agreed?

 

[LifeSize]

Yesterday (06/09) was injection 3, decided on the left quad again since it felt great, woke up at 7am to do that. I'm getting crazy pumps and feel less and less tired when it comes to volume work.. I just did the slowest 100 pushups ever and the burn started at rep 50 and was intense but pleasant till rep 100. I wonder when the Cyp kicks in what the effects will be, should be soon. I'm a little paranoid and I guess it's the Tren... I'm worried about my back being a little oily, I found a zit - which I never get - on my back, and my nipples - not aureoles - are sensitive like I was in the water with a tshirt on....not really bad but enough for me to be thinking about it. Remember I had puberty gyno that was removed when I was a young teen. I'm thinking about starting my Arimidex and Dostinex on my next injection day or tomorrow.

How do you guys feel about recovery from Tren (shutdown) after a 6-8 week run compared to a 10-12?

Arimidex @ 0.25mcg EOD & Dostinex @ .5ml E3D...agreed?

210lbs this morning.

 

[LifeSize]

Where the fuck is BigBench?

Where the fuck is everyone else?

Anyway scale was up on Sunday and I looked ok, but I looked like a blimp yesterday. I decided at midnight I would take my adex and dost.. I also injected for the 4th time today in the morning. I'm revamping my diet.. 250/250/50 and 250/150/50 non-wo days.. Let the tren work its magic..

Strength is up, endurance is up also, cardio is Ok and will be a staple.. 2 people have commented that I look bigger - they saw me on Friday last.. I'm back down to 206 this morning.

I feel like I have a dry throat (is this the test flu you fuckers talk about?), almost like I had been coughing or whatever.. I'm taking 1000mg vit C pre and post workout. Along with my Animal Pak, Animal Omega, and Animal Flex..

Holler..

 

[solo47]

Arimidex @ 0.25mcg EOD & Dostinex @ .5ml E3D...agreed?

Agreed, but if your nips worry you move up to 0.5mg Adex EOD. Many would say avoid them both unless you get a burning sensation or painful itch. Tingling sensitivity is to be expected. You're like a kid getting his first crazy rush of hormone enrichment, after all.

Solo

P.S. Your night on the town sounds like fun, LS, but isn't that the way it's supposed to be?

 

[dennis]

Where the fuck is BigBench?

Where the fuck is everyone else?

Anyway scale was up on Sunday and I looked ok, but I looked like a blimp yesterday. I decided at midnight I would take my adex and dost.. I also injected for the 4th time today in the morning. I'm revamping my diet.. 250/250/50 and 250/150/50 non-wo days.. Let the tren work its magic..

Strength is up, endurance is up also, cardio is Ok and will be a staple.. 2 people have commented that I look bigger - they saw me on Friday last.. I'm back down to 206 this morning.

I feel like I have a dry throat (is this the test flu you fuckers talk about?), almost like I had been coughing or whatever.. I'm taking 1000mg vit C pre and post workout. Along with my Animal Pak, Animal Omega, and Animal Flex..

Holler..

Settle down big boy..we are all here for you.I think the dry throat thing will be ok and also the itchy nips..pretty common..I am going through the itchy nip syndrom as we speak..atleast you know your gear is legit !

 

[LifeSize]

Settle down big boy..we are all here for you.I think the dry throat thing will be ok and also the itchy nips..pretty common..I am going through the itchy nip syndrom as we speak..atleast you know your gear is legit !

Heh.. I didn't mean to sound like a raging asshole. Boards have been dead though...

I started to get nipple itch and burn on day two but since nothing LOOKED abnormal (I have a really flat/lean chest, I had gyno surgery when I was like 13) I left it alone and it faded away.. I started the Adex because I looked like a damn potato and the scale hit 210.. My face was swole. I'm down to 204 again.. Not much change in diet really, but I am pushing the cardio and lifting circuit style this week.. Dude I had no abs 2 days ago, this morning I look like I did when I finished my DNP cycle at 198.. No bother in my nips either..

I don't really feel the Cyp, my happy go lucky mood is somewhat faded, not as cocky but still very aggressive in the gym..I get horny, but not THAT horny...a little more than usual. I assume the Cyp will kick in next week.. I've only injected 2cc of it, thats 500mg, its only been a week and a day on my cycle..about 4cc of Tren..

The rash/itch is whatever today. I see the marks but they don't bother...yet. It sort of comes and goes. I'll play it by ear..

Do you guys think I should add any other compounds? I was thinking that maybe around week 4 or something to do a short burst (4 weeks) of something that will compliment some lean muscle gains...not sure what, and i'm not set on it.. Just more thinking out loud.. Like 800mg of EQ for 4 weeks or something..? It should boost my gainst at the end of the cycle....right?? Maybe just bump the Test to 750 with prop?? to 500cyp 2-300 prop?

 

[dennis]

Life..don't go changing your plan now ! Stick to what you planned bro..you are going to be fine..the rash is worrying me though..keep a sharp eye on it and also itching.

 

[LifeSize]

Life..don't go changing your plan now ! Stick to what you planned bro..you are going to be fine..the rash is worrying me though..keep a sharp eye on it and also itching.

It comes and goes, like right now im fine, but when i finished showering it was a little bothersome.. like a mosquito bite..

trust me im on it.. not much info online though on it.. most people get rashes near injection sides.. my legs are fine.. blotch and itch free... maybe its lice? though i'm bald