first cycle, dbol, test, deca

[jcmtza]

hi guys this is my first post so im gonna try to make it simple.

im starting my first cycle using dbol, test prop, and nandrolone cyp.

im 25, 200 lbs, 6"0, training for several months.

the guy who told me this was a nice first cycle, says:

week 1 & 2 20mg dianabol ed , 300mg of nandrolone cyp week, 100 mg of test week
week 3 & 4 30 mg dianabol ed, 300 mg nand....week , 100 mg test
week 5 40 mg dianabol ed, 600 mg nand, 200 test
week 6 50 mg dianabol ed, 600 mg nand, 200 test
week 7 40 mg dianabol, 300 nand, 100 test
week 8 40 mg dianabol, 300 nand, 100 test
week 9 to 12 30 mg dianabol, 300 nand, 100 test

my diet, is simple try to stay clean eat 5 to 6 times, mostly tuna, chicken or fish.
what gains can i expect?
when i can start seeing results?
i train 1 hour of box, and 2 hours of weights.
whats the best routine or scheduale for this cycle?

thanks in advance for the replies

 

[peanutbutter]

if you ask me,your cycle total wrong! but total! who tell you to do that cycle dont know what he talk!
why not do it correct?
do some newbie cycle!

500mg testosterone a week 1-10 go with testo enanthate or testo cypionate
400mg deca durabolin or boldenone 1-10
40-50mg d-bol a day 1-5
always add some anti e to not got gyno...best is arimidex,but most expensive you can do also nolvadex! 1mg eod arimidex or 20mg nolvadex a day..for all cycle time+ 3 weeks after last shot
for pct add hcg! 2 x 2500iu a day for 3 weeks..its for your balls

hope its help..do some more research

 

[NorwegianViking]

How about just running a test only for a first?

 

[peanutbutter]

for first cycle is best to do it good and you will gains maxx gains in life in 10-12 weeks..with cycle i write you you can gain for sure 25-30lbs..
with each next cycle you gain less..so best is to shock body with first cycle and explode!

 

[jcmtza]

if you ask me,your cycle total wrong! but total! who tell you to do that cycle dont know what he talk!
why not do it correct?
do some newbie cycle!

500mg testosterone a week 1-10 go with testo enanthate or testo cypionate
400mg deca durabolin or boldenone 1-10
40-50mg d-bol a day 1-5
always add some anti e to not got gyno...best is arimidex,but most expensive you can do also nolvadex! 1mg eod arimidex or 20mg nolvadex a day..for all cycle time+ 3 weeks after last shot
for pct add hcg! 2 x 2500iu a day for 3 weeks..its for your balls

hope its help..do some more research

ok pct for 3 weeks after my last shot? i care about my balls lol.

ok but 40 to 50 mg dbol for the entire 12 weeks?
and if i do this newbie cycle, and train hard what real gains can i expect?

thanks

 

[peanutbutter]

d-bol only 5-6 weeks...5is ok

if your gear good human quality then man 30lbs is here..but also good diet,,a lot of food, 4000-5000 call a day! and train hard..4-5 x a week..

 

[jcmtza]

d-bol only 5-6 weeks...5is ok

if your gear good human quality then man 30lbs is here..but also good diet,,a lot of food, 4000-5000 call a day! and train hard..4-5 x a week..

ok i will try it that way, thanks a lot.

is dbol dangerous after? ive read is liver toxic for that reason you want to cut it and week 5 or becuse at week 5 i should get the effects of the injectables?

 

[dennis]

hi guys this is my first post so im gonna try to make it simple.

im starting my first cycle using dbol, test prop, and nandrolone cyp.

im 25, 200 lbs, 6"0, training for several months.

the guy who told me this was a nice first cycle, says:

week 1 & 2 20mg dianabol ed , 300mg of nandrolone cyp week, 100 mg of test week
week 3 & 4 30 mg dianabol ed, 300 mg nand....week , 100 mg test
week 5 40 mg dianabol ed, 600 mg nand, 200 test
week 6 50 mg dianabol ed, 600 mg nand, 200 test
week 7 40 mg dianabol, 300 nand, 100 test
week 8 40 mg dianabol, 300 nand, 100 test
week 9 to 12 30 mg dianabol, 300 nand, 100 test

my diet, is simple try to stay clean eat 5 to 6 times, mostly tuna, chicken or fish.
what gains can i expect?
when i can start seeing results?
i train 1 hour of box, and 2 hours of weights.
whats the best routine or scheduale for this cycle?

thanks in advance for the replies

You guys who gave this guy advice are missing the points which I will list below:
1.Training for several months.
2.The poorly planned cycle.
3.Diet is "simple","try" to stay clean.....
4. Train 1 hour of boxing 2 hours of weights.( Is this per day or week )???

 

[newbie23]

yea i dont know where u guys come up with these "newbie" cycles-but it is only a matter of time before someone listens to that terrible wreckless advice and really messes theirselves up.

 

[jcmtza]

You guys who gave this guy advice are missing the points which I will list below:
1.Training for several months.
2.The poorly planned cycle.
3.Diet is "simple","try" to stay clean.....
4. Train 1 hour of boxing 2 hours of weights.( Is this per day or week )???

1. ok ive been training since i was 19, but suffered a car accident so i drop the gym, and about a year ago, i start training seriously again

2. well this guy who planned this cycle, gives cycles like this to a lot of guys.

3. diet is about this:

1 meal

4 eggs
milk
protein shake

meal 2

can of tuna
vegetables
1 slice of 12 grain bread

meal 3
protein shake
1 banana

workout

meal 4
2 cans of tuna
veggies
4 eggs

meal 5
chicken breast
veggies
1 apple

4. 1 hour boxing from mon - thu
2 hour weight training mon- fri

 

[newbie23]

no matter what you do you should drop the deca on this first run-you just wont need it

lets say you get gyno while running the deca and test what are you going to do? how will you know which one is causing the problem? you wont-and if you take nolva and its the deca you will be sorry.

just run dbol test-you will still gain the same with or without the deca.

1-4 dbol 30-40mg ED
1-15 test 500mg a week-or shit go up to 750-better than running deca
14-17 dbol
18-21 pct clomid 50mg ED

thats it nice and simple-and if you eat enough you will get huge. you could easily put on 25lbs with this cycle-but what do i know

 

[Bigkarch]

cycle is all wrong...not to flame, but try 400mg of test for 10 or 12 weeks and 30 mg of dbol for 4 or 5 weeks..however I think 30 lbs is a bit unrealistic

 

[newbie23]

cycle is all wrong...not to flame, but try 400mg of test for 10 or 12 weeks and 30 mg of dbol for 4 or 5 weeks..however I think 30 lbs is a bit unrealistic

the one i posted is wrong?

 

[newbie23]

if so please explain-i am always up for learning

 

[jcmtza]

ok so if drop the deca or not? what test should be the best?

i want to do the cycle for 12 weeks, because ive heard you should run deca or test for not less than 10 and no more than 12 right? can i add winstrol or some cutting drug at the end of the cycle? if i do when i should run the pct?

 

[newbie23]

ok so if drop the deca or not? what test should be the best?

i want to do the cycle for 12 weeks, because ive heard you should run deca or test for not less than 10 and no more than 12 right? can i add winstrol or some cutting drug at the end of the cycle? if i do when i should run the pct?

drop the deca-you know nothing about prolactin and progesterone issues you may encounter.

with test your estrogen will be through the roof-it will be a task monitoring this for your first time-also for future reference you will know what compound tends to give what side effects.

if you do both this time you will not know if you are gyno prone-to the test(estro) deca(prolactin)

running nolva when you have prolactin issues is a big no-no. it will make the sides worse.

use either testosterone enanthate-or testosterone cypionate.

you could run it longer than 12 weeks if you want-although this will be enough time to see some great gains.

either one of these will take 4-6 weeks to kick in-so if you run the dbol at the beginning-this will allow you to make some gains while waiting for the test to kick in.

start your pct 2 weeks after your last injection.

winstrol is really bad on the joints-i do not recommend it unless your running EQ or DECA with it-and we already talked about that so its out the window.

Dbol is the all american drug-the US invented it when the Russians were kicking our ass in the olympics. it is fast acting and produces results rapidly.

you should get an Aromatose inhibitor to combat elevated levels of estrogen.

i prefer Aromasin-you should run this the entire cycle-it help to reduce bloat and moon face-do not run NOLVA on cycle-unless you get gyno-which you problably wont cause your smart enough to run an AI the whole way through. nolva can inhibit gains Aromasin will not.

SERM'S and AI's are easy to obtain through research companys-legally.

 

[eric24]

peanut butter! I like your advice on the cycle I was wondering if you would have a good substitute for the deca.. Im a little leary of the deca myself only because of so much I heard about it but I never lose site that there only opinions and could have either got crap or just cycled wrong. Having said that I was just wondering what your thoughts were. Have you heard of any good sites for the d-bol...etc

 

[Jonbon]

if you ask me,your cycle total wrong! but total! who tell you to do that cycle dont know what he talk!
why not do it correct?
do some newbie cycle!

500mg testosterone a week 1-10 go with testo enanthate or testo cypionate
400mg deca durabolin or boldenone 1-10
40-50mg d-bol a day 1-5
always add some anti e to not got gyno...best is arimidex,but most expensive you can do also nolvadex! 1mg eod arimidex or 20mg nolvadex a day..for all cycle time+ 3 weeks after last shot
for pct add hcg! 2 x 2500iu a day for 3 weeks..its for your balls

hope its help..do some more research

You shouldn't do Nova while taking deca you'll start lactating it's good for pct tho

 

[jaymaximus]

You shouldn't do Nova while taking deca you'll start lactating it's good for pct tho

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