Questions Regarding Cardio & RHR

OhNoYo

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Ok, I have a few questions regarding cardiovascular exercise and resting heart rate. First off, I want to try and get my RHR down to 60bpm. Now, my RHR has always been high, between
80-90bpm. The lowest it was one time was 68bpm, and that was in the morning. So, my questions are...

1) When ppl speak about RHR, is this their HR when IMMEDIATELY upon waking, OR abruptly stopping daily activities, w/ an example being office desk job work, to relax and do nothing for 5-10 minutes? I ask this for a few reasons b/c my RHR when I check it in the afternoon or evening, even when doing something very non-active for an hour such as watching TV, then turning it off to sit there and relax for 5min, its still in the mid 80s to even mid 90s sometimes. However, if I take it relatively early in the morning, an hour after waking, its in the mid 70s. Furthermore, Lance Armstrong's RHR is reportedly to be around 32bpm. Another cyclist named Miguel Indurain is even lower, at 28bpm! Now, I'm sure that these readings HAVE to be upon waking, b/c I can't see them going about doing things like running errands such as shopping for groceries, filling automobile for gas, going to post office, etc., then someone telling them to immediately stop what they are doing for 5-10min to sit in a chair and relax, then take their HR & it be between 28-32bpm, right? If I'm wrong, plz tell me! This goes to my next question...

2) I'm a bodybuilder and understand excessive cardio can be catabolic to the body. Also, IMO its extremely boring and tedious. So, the only thing I do for cardio is walk for 60min at a 3.0mph pace on a 3.0incline 5-6x/wk. The reasons for this are b/c its easy and it gives me enough of the cardiovascular benefits I need plus being easy on the joints while consequently not dipping in the anaerobic threshold which may cause it to become catabolic to skeletal muscle on my body. So, my question is, I'm sure this cardio exercise will NOT get my RHR down to 60bpm if I take it in the afternoon or evening, but its possible if I take it upon waking. So which is the proper way to do it?
Note: I've tried this type of cardio off & on for 6months now, and it has brought it down in the morning ONLY by not down to 60bpm yet. Only to 68bpm

3) Final question. If this doesn't do it, the only thing I would consider doing is at the end of the 60min at 3mph on a
3incline, is running 6.0mph at a 6.0incline for 5min to end the cardio session. I wonder if its possible if this could get it down to 60bpm? If not, then I quit, LOL!

*As a side note, what I brought up regarding RHR being higher in the afternoon and evening but not in the morning, goes the same for my cardio exercise too. When I walk on the treadmill at 3.0mph on a 3.0incline for 60min in the morning, my HR usually only ends at 110bpm. But, when I do it in the evening, it ends between 120-130bpm. Does this ever happen to anyone else? Also, if I really want to get my HR down the best way possible, what do cardio junkies recommend, splitting up cardio & weight training OR doing cardio after weight training? Plus what time of day to do cardio if its split, morning or evening, or does it even matter?
 
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1) Resting heart rate upon waking may be different for several reasons. IMO You are in a more relaxed state, therefore less muscle tension, which means less pressure on blood vessels, which equals a lesser workload for the heart. A doctor's office will record your resting heart rate at whatever it may be when you walk thru the door. Try measuring your heart rate at set intervals during the day. Pay special attention to the readings immediately before your weight training and how blood pressure tapers, or should taper, throughout the remainder of the day following weight training. Then you can construct an average based on your numbers and on your level of activity surrounding said numbers.

2) I think your true RHR is declining due to your cardio efforts; my theory is that your resistance training is throwing off your pm pulse readings.

3) Look into HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training). It spares skeletal muscle while building your cardio thresh hold.

Side note: If you do a.m. cardio before your daily weight training make sure you've restored glycogen with good meal planning, if not your only treading water.

Hope this helps Sir!
 
1) Resting heart rate upon waking may be different for several reasons. IMO You are in a more relaxed state, therefore less muscle tension, which means less pressure on blood vessels, which equals a lesser workload for the heart. A doctor's office will record your resting heart rate at whatever it may be when you walk thru the door. Try measuring your heart rate at set intervals during the day. Pay special attention to the readings immediately before your weight training and how blood pressure tapers, or should taper, throughout the remainder of the day following weight training. Then you can construct an average based on your numbers and on your level of activity surrounding said numbers.

2) I think your true RHR is declining due to your cardio efforts; my theory is that your resistance training is throwing off your pm pulse readings.

3) Look into HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training). It spares skeletal muscle while building your cardio thresh hold.

Side note: If you do a.m. cardio before your daily weight training make sure you've restored glycogen with good meal planning, if not your only treading water.

Hope this helps Sir!


Thanks for the reply, MAYO! Nah, no cardio b4 working out for me, it's either these 3 scenarios...

1) Workout then Cardio at ANY time of the day

2) Split my Workout in the morning & Cardio in the evening

3) Split my Cardio in the morning & Workout in the evening

...as for HIIT, Idk if I will ever go that route, Sir. Have U or anyone else tried it that you know of, or anyone on this forum?
 
Thanks for the reply, MAYO! Nah, no cardio b4 working out for me, it's either these 3 scenarios...

1) Workout then Cardio at ANY time of the day

2) Split my Workout in the morning & Cardio in the evening

3) Split my Cardio in the morning & Workout in the evening

...as for HIIT, Idk if I will ever go that route, Sir. Have U or anyone else tried it that you know of, or anyone on this forum?


The only time I really do cardio is when I cut, and that has its own set of issues. The leaner I get, the more I can feel ALL of my old injuries. The abrupt stop and start of the high intensity phases of HIIT feels like a have a knee and a shoulder full of broken glass. Not a feeling I care for; personally I use a stair mill at low speed for extended time. It's monotonous, but exhausting none the less.
 
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