Clen Question

[carwash]

Is it normal to be hungry all day and night when on clen, even when the side effects are starting
like shakes and restlesness all I can thing about is food. I have also just started 30 mins light cardio before breakfast on empty stomach then taking clen straight afterwards with breakfast. I am only on day 3 and 40 ug, is this normal?

 

[nano]

yeah i got hungry too. myself, and some other people i know, took apetite suppressants to combat the hunger. theres some good ones you can get from gnc

 

[buddy1]

Yeah, I was freakin ravenous on clen. I have no idea how people cut on it. I've had better success cutting with EQ.

yeah i got hungry too. myself, and some other people i know, took apetite suppressants to combat the hunger. theres some good ones you can get from gnc

Which appetite suppressants have you had success with?

 

[carwash]

I have just read green tea supresses the appetite and i got some of that, I gonna try that for a few days if that dont work i will look for something else.

 

[beesting]

Anyways, any reason why u take it after cardio with breakfast? Why not take it before cardio as it enhances the process of burning stored body fat. Also its best absorbed on an empty stomach

 

[carwash]

I have read it on a forum to take it after morning exercise, but if what you say is the best way then i will be happy to take your advice, Thank you

 

[nano]

Which appetite suppressants have you had success with?

GNC Control ACS

I have read it on a forum to take it after morning exercise, but if what you say is the best way then i will be happy to take your advice, Thank you

i read somewhere that clen should not be taken too close to a workout. supposedly it can interfere with your breathing during intense cardio. i noticed this myself. i was told that when doing cardio it's advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid hiit style routines.

 

[jasthace]

In the past I have always taken clen with a cuppa coffee before my morning cardio.I wait 'till I can feel the effect then go and do cardio.
It is a fact, that if you are on a calorie counted diet.Meaning you have a set amount of calories you are eating for the entire day.It is more muscle spearing to actually eat breakfast before the cardio session.That way you are not taxing muscle as a source of energy.At the end of the day you have in fact burnt just as many calories and consumed the same amount.But you have simply used your given calories in a smarter fashion in view of spearing muscle.
i.e you are supplying necessary nutrients to the muscle{protein} while still expending fat and carbs that have been retained in the liver for that purpose.
Food for thought {Compliments,The Conciliator}

 

[Get Some]

Guys, think about this....

You eat a couple chicken breasts with some vegetables and some water. Your normal metabolism would process this food at a "normal" rate (varies person to person), likely keeping you full until your next meal. However, Clen elevates your body temperature, putting you in a much more thermogenic state. Your body is able to process food much quicker. This is why some people believe that a good diet and cardio is just as effective as using clen. However,I believe that the proper way to use this thermogenic is to take your dose in the morning after cardio, just before you eat your first meal, and then eat about 8 small meals throughout the day.

The "optimal" situation would be to have an "IV Drip" feed food into your system constantly all day. That's not a plausible reality or convenient at all. It's not that convenient to try and eat 8 meals a day either, but it works. If it was easy, more people would do it. The shaking side effects are not a big deal at all if you work up the dosage slowly. The real problem is getting your diet in check. The reality is that you can eat more calories while on Clen because you burn more calories while on Clen. The optimal benefit you are getting is the anti-catabolic nature of this drug. While just implementing diet and cardio with a calorie deficit you will burn fat effectively, you will probably lose a little muscle in the process. It's almost unavoidable going 100% natty. With Clen you can achieve the same fat loss results (if not better) while preserving that hard earned muscle.

Also, I always recommend using Ketotifen and Taurine with Clen. Clen depeletes the natural taurine in your liver, which can cause cramping (that's a bitch). Ketotifen prolongs the amount of time you can stay on Clen continuously by reversing the effects of the downregulation of your beta receptors caused by Clen. Plus, Keto is an antihistimine (like benadryl), so if you take the dose before you go to bed it will help you sleep. I have a hard time sleeping with an elevated body temperature, it's almost an itchy feeling.

Please read the "Is Clen Anti-Catabolic?' portion of this article for further explanation.It basically says that with a calorie deficit based diet, Clen becomes much more anti catabolic than when used in conjunction with a higher calorie diet.

Clenbuterol and Muscle Growth: A New Approach for Bodybuilders - MESO-Rx

I still remember when Clenbuterol was the new wonder drug. "You know, my rat seems to respond very well to this new stuff." "Oh, which one?" "You know

thinksteroids.com

I hope this helps

 

[jasthace]

Clen elevates your body temperature, putting you in a much more thermogenic state.

I believe that the proper way to use this thermogenic is to take your dose in the morning after cardio, just before you eat your first meal,

Surely it would be more beneficial to take the clen before cardio and have an elevated body temp and "more thermogenic state" during the session.
I find,I sweat more taking my stims before workout. It = more time spent in an elevated state which must mean more calories expended.

Clen can truly be a catabolic drug, too. At low dosage, it will go unnoticed. But past a certain amount (equivalent of 15-20 tablets of 20 mcg) chances are you are going to get sore by using Clen. Scientific research in humans demonstrates a potent catabolic effect of Clen as reflected by a rise of serum creatine kinase level. This means that Clen is attacking our muscle cells a bit like heavy training does.

"noticeable" at doses of around 150-200mcg.Which dose not mean that it absolutely doesn't burn muscle stores at lower doses.
Giving weight to the theory of a preworkout meal.{perhaps and lite shake}

Also, I always recommend using Ketotifen and Taurine with Clen. Clen depeletes the natural taurine in your liver, which can cause cramping (that's a bitch). Ketotifen prolongs the amount of time you can stay on Clen continuously by reversing the effects of the downregulation of your beta receptors caused by Clen. Plus, Keto is an antihistimine (like benadryl), so if you take the dose before you go to bed it will help you sleep. I have a hard time sleeping with an elevated body temperature, it's almost an itchy feeling.

Good advise,Taurine is an absolute necessity.Ketotifen is a wonderful ancillary.With no negative side effects.You can'nt beat taking 3mg of ketotifen before bed...I like this stuff.

Please read the "Is Clen Anti-Catabolic?' portion of this article for further explanation.It basically says that with a calorie deficit based diet, Clen becomes much more anti catabolic than when used in conjunction with a higher calorie diet.

Clenbuterol and Muscle Growth: A New Approach for Bodybuilders - MESO-Rx

I still remember when Clenbuterol was the new wonder drug. "You know, my rat seems to respond very well to this new stuff." "Oh, which one?" "You know

thinksteroids.com

I hope this helps

 

[Get Some]

Surely it would be more beneficial to take the clen before cardio and have an elevated body temp and "more thermogenic state" during the session.
I find,I sweat more taking my stims before workout. It = more time spent in an elevated state which must mean more calories expended.





"noticeable" at doses of around 150-200mcg.Which dose not mean that it absolutely doesn't burn muscle stores at lower doses.
Giving weight to the theory of a preworkout meal.{perhaps and lite shake}

15 to 20 pills at 20mcg each is 300-400 mcg, not 150-200mcg. Personally, I never go past 140mcg and usually stick to around 120mcg near the high point. The key here (according to what Dharkam writes) is that the anticatabolic nature is present with a calorie deficient diet, somewhat regardless of dosage.


Good advise,Taurine is an absolute necessity.Ketotifen is a wonderful ancillary.With no negative side effects.You can'nt beat taking 3mg of ketotifen before bed...I like this stuff.

One of the most interesting parts of that article talks about how high dose Clen can be used pre workout at a frequency of about "once per week" to help bring up lagging muscle groups. I'll have to look into that as I've not heard any research or results posted on the subject...interesting though.

Although I have been a fan of Clen for awhile now, I think I have my sights set on Albuterol for the next cycle. The Anthony Roberts article on Albuterol has me very interested. He basically says that Albuterol is a "shorter acting version of Clen" (like propionate versus enanthate, same concept) and has less side effects with a greater fat burning effect. How could you not want to give it a shot after hearing that. I liked that he based it on personal experience as well, that's always important to me.

As far as when you take Clen in the morning, it's almost negligible because:

A) it's not that fast acting (takes a couple hours to really get working

B) it has a half life longer than 24 hours (most think it's 36-48 hrs), so you're still working on the previous days dose the next day.

I think longer sessions of cardio at a steady, consistent pace are more beneficial with Clen than HIIT type workouts. I do an hour of cardio at a time (usually 30 mins on 2 different machines).

 

[carwash]

Is .Ketotifen something i can purchase over the counter?

 

[buddy1]

Yes the taurine really does help.

 

[Get Some]

Is .Ketotifen something i can purchase over the counter?

No it's a research chem...click on the CEM-Meso banner above to find some.

 

[nano]

Is .Ketotifen something i can purchase over the counter?

you can get it from most of the same places you get your clen

 

[toothache]

Is .Ketotifen something i can purchase over the counter?

CEM-Meso store has ketotifen. Good stuff. Take at night because it will make you drowsy.