New run: D-Bol/Test/Deca/Tren

REK

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Merry Christmas to me, I will log progress and any issues encountered.

Start December 25:

Weeks 1-6 D-Bol 50 mgs daily, spread out
Weeks 1-14 Deca 350 mgs/week Pinned Sunday’s
Weeks 1-16 Test E 850 mgs/week Pinned Sunday/Wednesday
Weeks 16-17 Test P @ 300/700 mgs respectively pinned daily (10 days)
Weeks 11-17 Tren A 350 mg/week Pinned ED @ 50 mgs

HGH, All 2012: Started Week of Dec 04 2011@ 2UI’s, will progress up to 4-5UI’s daily through January and continue at that level. (2 injections, AM/PWO). T4 will be administered daily at 75 mcg.

Weeks 1-18 Arimidex .5 mgs EOD
Weeks 4-18 Caber .5 2X Weekly Monday/Thursday at bed time if required
Weeks 2-16 HCG 250 UI’s 2x a week Sunday/Wednesday
Weeks 17-18 HCG 500 UI’s daily until 4 days before SERMS

PCT:
Weeks 19-24
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10/10/10
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Aromasin 12.5 mgs ed

Labs to follow 2-3 weeks after PCT is complete. Time off will match or exceed Time on.

Goals: 10lbs of lean muscle, with a drop in body fat of 5 lbs, Calipers will be used just prior to commencement to accurately measure BF%.

The Tren A will assist with fat loss as well as continue to grow muscle towards the end.

HDH thanks for the help and advise along the way bro.

Start weight: 235

Finish weight: 240

Cheers REK
 
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And so it begins, played Santa from 5 AM till 8, that was fun.

Busy morning for pinning, upped my HGH to 2.5 UI's today, will run this for a week then go to 3 UI's next week one inject AM 1UI, second one PWO 2UI with shake and insulin spike (Dextrose).

Pinned 1.7 ml's/425mgs Test E right glute
Pinned 1.3 ml's/390mgs Deca left glute (upped from 1.2/340 for utilization purposes)

Dianabol for breakfast, spread out every 3 hrs throughout the day.

Injections went extreamly smooth no issues. :drooling:

REK
 
Second day of splitting those little fackers up, I will give it one more day then I may just go to 60 mgs of D-Bol. My fault for not looking harder for the 10's, but all I could find were the 20's. They partly go to dust. LOL

Cheers REK
 
Are you planning on doing a bulk period then cutting at the end during the tren? How is the diet looking like on the different phases?
 
Are you planning on doing a bulk period then cutting at the end during the tren? How is the diet looking like on the different phases?

That is my goal, as you know food intake will dictate growth, but Deca and D-Bol do certainly lend themselves to be more suited for bulking. The Tren in my opinion is certainly strong enough to keep and even grow more while dropping carbs and fats. My concern is cardio as it's not the best for that.

Current intake:

6:30 AM: 1 Cup Oatmeal with ¼ cup of cottage cheese
Banana
Shake 2 Scoops protein (50g’s ½ Whey, ½ Mixture) with 2 cups Skim milk
2 hard boiled eggs

10:30 AM: 8 oz of chicken, beef or Pork with 100 g’s whole wheat cheese tortellini

12:00 PM: 500 g’s Greek yogurt no fat

2:30 PM: Same as 10:30 meal

Pre-gym: Apple or banana with all bran bar

Gym 4:30 – 6:30

Post gym: Shake 2 scoops protein whey with 2 cups skim milk, 1 tbsp natural peanut butter
20 min later
Shake with 20 g’s glutamine/ 20 g’s creatine/ 80 g’s dextrose with water

Last meal: 5-6 oz Salmon with rice or 5 oz extra lean hamburger with whole wheat bun.
Shake with 1 scoop Whey and 1 scoop Casien

I haven't compiled an intake for the Tren phase, but there will be a reduction in Carbs and fat, I will post it later when it's complete, I still want to see how this version works for me. I don't want to add a great deal of fat so I want to monitor this portion first and then set up the cut section.

Cheers REK
 
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Looking good! No https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134314754 though?!:) Pretty nice to shake to start the day, I always feel so depleted in the morning even though I always take 50g casein before bed.

Thanks Bro, LOL, I do try and have that shake when I can, but currently I am working away from home (construction) and staying in a basement apartment, the fine folks upstairs have a new baby and the blender does wake her. So for now it's the basics.

I will post the cut phase as well and will be looking for any input for yourself or others who veiw it.

Cheers REK
 
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Well, did shoulders and chest last night, felt very strong, mostly placebo I'm sure. Could barely wash my bald head this morning LMAO.

Some night sweats last night and trouble getting to sleep, but eventually all went well.

I pinned 1.7 mls/425 mgs of Test E this morning in my left ventroglute, I do have to say this is my favorite place to pin, no issues ever. Both left and right glutes where I pinned Test E and Deca on Sunday have a knot if you will where they were pinned, this never happens in the ventro glute. Today is legs so I'm sure it will dissapate shortly. I'm not concerned with infection, only the pain in the ass. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The splitting of the D-Bol has not gone well, it's very brittle and goes to dust, that shit DOES NOT TASTE GOOD!!!!!!!!! I have moved to 60 mgs daily, 20 mgs 3 x daily.

Cheers REK
 
Did arms today, I'm thinking the D-Bol is kicking in, or I have one hell of a placebo affect going on . I had some crazy pumps in my Bi's and Tri's, especially my Bi's. I could hardly complete dumbell curls as it was almost impossible to bring my forearm up to my shoulder. I'm also a walking hard-on LOL.


I'm thinking there is a fair amount of BA in my test as the knot in my right glute is still there, but the left is only slight now (Deca injection site). ICE!!!

Cheers REK
 
Why are you running 60mg of Dbol? After I get over 40mg the sides get too much for me. Good luck in your cycle though, I will be following along.
 
Why are you running 60mg of Dbol? After I get over 40mg the sides get too much for me. Good luck in your cycle though, I will be following along.

Thanks bro, to be honest earlier in my thread I was taking 50, but I was only able to find 20 mg tablets and in the process of splitting them they were turning to dust. The taste was not very paletable, so I went up to 60. I spread them out every 8 hours during the day. I would not recomend this amount to others, but I don't seen to get a great deal of sides to be honest, no gyno, no acne etc, although I do get some night sweats and a small amount of trouble getting to sleep. I will watch for anything and it's easy to drop the dosage as the half life is very short, 4 hrs approx.

Cheers REK:)
 
One week in now, strength is up, and weight to, currently 240, up 4 lbs, I notice it in my traps and shoulders mostly. Eating hard and training harder. Started my Adex today at .5 mg, I will run it EOD unless I need more. HGH also went up today to 3 UI's daily, one shot in the AM and another PWO 2UI's. Pinning is going well, still have a knot in my right glute from a week ago, I think I pushed the Test a little to fast and irritated the muscle and facia.

HCG will also start tonight, 250 UI's in my right calf, I may up it as there will be waste if I follow the 30 days suggested for shelf life, my bottle has no lable so I'm unsure what the manufacturers recommendations would be. Mixed 10 mls bac water with 5000 UI's of HCG in a 10 ml vial.

Cheers REK
 
Pinned 17.mls/425 mg's Test in left quad, all is going well. The knot in my right glute has now almost fully dissapated. Weight is sitting at 241 up 5-6 lbs, strength is up to, staying hydrated is the key, I find I am going through a lot more water on the D-Bol.

HGH is still sitting at 3UI's 1 inject AM 1UI and 1 inject PWO 2UI's. Shoulder stiffness has subsided hand are good to, next week I will try 2 injects of 2 UI's each and hold there for a while.

REK
 
HGH is up to 2 UI's AM/ 2 UI's PM, all is well, other then headaches and a full gut all the time, LOL. Weight is up again, 243 last night, so up 8 lbs. No noticable water retention in the feet and ankles where I get it first but I'm sure there a bit going on.

Cheers REK
 
Did back today, lower back pumps are annoying, acid reflux is a bitch to, but strength is going up nicely. Weight is up to 246+ so 11 pounds so far, getting a little pudgy in the face, LOL. Test should be coming online next week as I'm 3 weeks in, Deca the following week.

HGH is currently 2.5 UI's AM and 2.5 UI's PM, I may switch the PM to mid day as to help MGF after the workout, but as one goes to sleep HGH will be released naturally and the susequent IGF passing through the liver will nullify it either way, this just offers a few more hours for it to work.

Cheers REK
 
HCG will also start tonight, 250 UI's in my right calf, I may up it as there will be waste if I follow the 30 days suggested for shelf life, my bottle has no lable so I'm unsure what the manufacturers recommendations would be. Mixed 10 mls bac water with 5000 UI's of HCG in a 10 ml vial.

Cheers REK

Why are you pinning HcG in the calf, and not the belly? So a 10mL vial holds 5,000IUs, therefore you inject .5mL? Are you saying hCG only has a 30 day shelf life (is that only after its mixed?)?

Lots of questions, but your thread is valuable, thanks
 
Why are you pinning HcG in the calf, and not the belly? So a 10mL vial holds 5,000IUs, therefore you inject .5mL? Are you saying hCG only has a 30 day shelf life (is that only after its mixed?)?

Lots of questions, but your thread is valuable, thanks

Thanks, with regards to HCG, it can be pinned either Intra-muscular or Sub-q, I chose the IM due to the fact that I also pin HGH 2 x daily and the are around my belly does get rather full (unless mixing it with HGH), LOL, even though they are only tiny needles (slin pins). As far as the calf goes, I have pinned lots of gear there, but this time as mentioned I hit a nerve and well it sucked. LOL. Currently I mix my HCG with my HGH and pin it in the belly.

For the mixing side of things (HCG comes in 5000 UI bottles for the most part), I choose to add 9 mls of bacteriostatic water to an empty sterile vile (10ml) and then add the HCG solution with 1 ml to it so yes the breakdown is .5 ml = 250 UI's, next time however I will simply use 2 ml and each 10 increment on the slin pin will have 250UI, which will result in less liquid going in sub-q with the HGH as sometimes high volume sub-q can cause a bit of pain.

Shelf life: When you get your HCG, sometimes you get the whole package and it will say the expiry date, generally it is either 30-60 days in the ones I have seen, if however I only get the vial then I assume its 30.

Hope this helps

REK
 
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Jan 15 2012

Changed the workout from a 4 on 1 off to a 5 on 1 off, I feel better rest is needed and also there is a better chance to hit lagging parts a little better.

Weight is now at 247, up 12 lbs in 3 weeks, upped Adex to 1mg EOD as well. All is going well, got some real nice needles from the pharmacist at Walmart today, 22 guage 1.5 inch and they are black. He didn't have the info on them as they were a promo, but there is some type of coating on them. I used then to pin test and deca and didn't even know they went in, zero resistance. BD Luer lock 1.5. I usually use a 23 guage 1" for everything, but these were super smooth.

Cheers REK
 
Headaches have subsided, but back pumps remain, strenght is good, but I have to go easy on the bench. I have always like to push up weight, but the rotator cuffs are not likeing what the chest is able to do. Pressed 405 on my last set the other night and it caused some pain in my shoulders that was unneccesary.

Had to slow down food intake over the last few days, eating a little to much without the time to properly utilze it. LOL a few days to empty. So weight is now at 250, up 15 lbs at the beginning of week 5, a little more fat/water then I like, but its a great placebo to.

Started Caber @ .5 mgs 2 x weekly, no issues at all, just planned on the start now as Deca levels will be up.

Cheers REK
 
Jan 22 2012

Headaches have subsided, but back pumps remain, strenght is good, but I have to go easy on the bench. I have always like to push up weight, but the rotator cuffs are not likeing what the chest is able to do. Pressed 405 on my last set the other night and it caused some pain in my shoulders that was unneccesary.

Had to slow down food intake over the last few days, eating a little to much without the time to properly utilze it. LOL a few days to empty. So weight is now at 250, up 15 lbs at the beginning of week 5, a little more fat/water then I like, but its a great placebo to.

Started Caber @ .5 mgs 2 x weekly, no issues at all, just planned on the start now as Deca levels will be up.

Cheers REK
 
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