Since the use of anabolic steroids is not heavily regulated or in some instances, not regulated at all in other countries, I am right to assume that those overseas sources are more likely to be of higher quality than our UGL's here in our country (US) ? I often see them list quality control independent testing while you don't really see that here. Are they also less likely to be contaminated?
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NOPE.
UGL are like Russian roulette. You never know what you are going to get.
Remember ToKKYo? Remember how the Americans who "visited" their "multi-million" dollar lab and raved how great it was? Remember how paid shills told the world just how clean and awesome it was? Run by certified lab attendants etc?
Well that was all bullshit. It was a fucking dump with Roster fighting and Pit Bull fights (this is serious) right next to where they made their shit. They used to shit in the sinks and the DEA vids show shit stained sinks all over.
It's all bullshit. Are there actual state of the art labs producing UG stuff? Possibly but I doubt it.
After every single raid the police vids tell the same story- the stuff is being made and packaged in shit holes. I have yet to see a fantastic UGL in any country. These UGL spend more money on packaging than actual labs.
I would rather home brew than buy UGL. at least I know it's my bathtub I am using.
Very good point Hulkhogan. I supose they also (foreign labs) feel protected by the distance and by the fact that there is little you can do once you get screwed over. Which brings back to the forefront the fact that we are so unprotected and constantly exploited by many, many unscrupolous characters out there. Hence the importance of a space like this were we can at least learn who to stay away from.
Most international sources tend to carry a large number of UGL brands even though they may have relatively easy and inexpensive access to human grade pharmaceuticals.
The problem with countries where there is lax regulation of steroid distribution is that the lack of regulation makes it more likely that UGLs will set up shop in such safer havens. So, while international sources can obtain steroids directly from pharmacy, they can just as easily obtain UGLs and/or sell counterfeits. Lack of regulation by no means guarantees higher quality.
The short answer is that the black market for steroids :sucks:
Bigkarch
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IMO, most ugl are not really true labs, as we would envision them...nice clean sterile labs with nice looking people wearing white coats carrying beekers...more a crappy area that has electricity, heat source, a tub/sink of some sort, water and a counter...a bathroom has that....a big felony is having a clandestine lab for manafacturing
Bingo.
Some guys have pride in their work (UGL) and keep things clean and close to professional as possible etc. Other guys are in it just for the money and can't peel an orange properly much less make safe steroids.
Some of the guys behind these "labs" are baboons and idiots. A few are very smart with chemistry backgrounds but the vast majority are idiots with a PO box and a powder connect in China and a nice printer,
99% of the time this is the typical guy running an UGL;
http://i.imgur.com/630Oy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/630Oy.jpg
Those are RBB talking to a respected member from another board.
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Realdutch
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Someone who sends such emails must be terribly bullied at school.
A terribly frustrated person
Yes and no. Pharmaceutical diversion is much more likely to occur in those countries so that you see a lot of steroids from big pharmaceutical companies like Organon. So these will be much more likely to appear on the international black market.
In the U.S., such diversion isn't very common and most AAS sold domestically to bodybuilders come from UGLs and/or resellers of imported AAS.
But then there is the chain of custody issue. Just because any black market source sells Sustanon 250, Testoviron, etc.trademarked by a major pharmaceutical company, it doesn't guarantee that it wasn't counterfeited.
As far as the pharma labs specializing in AAS that are "registered" in foreign countries are concerned, it depends not only on the regulation but also the enforcement by local government agencies.
I am not familiar with how effectively other governments accomplish these objectives. But perhaps others may have knowledgeable insight into such details.
Or on meth, coke...etc. People on heavy duty stimulants are usually crazy aggressive. He sounds like a mix of delusional and ultra aggressive. Exactly what stims do to you.
Sorry to bring this thread back to the fore front. I had not had a chance to log back in in a long while. Tonight I finally had some spare time and decided to put down journals and relax with more enjoyable subjects. It is here where I find some of the tools and motivation I am using in trying to mount my strategy to stave age off as much as I can.
I just wanted to say thanks to those who commented on my question. All points are clever and well taken and after much more research on my part since this original post I have come to the same conclusion as you gentleman. "Made in the U.S." still can and should be best.
I just wanted to say thanks to those who commented on my question. All points are clever and well taken and after much more research on my part since this original post I have come to the same conclusion as you gentleman. "Made in the U.S." still can and should be best.
mac111
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why? what has geography got to do with anything? not trying to cause a scene, but that is just patriotic BS and typically American and only serves to make you and your fellow countrymen the subject of ridicule. the world is much bigger than one of its countries........
To a Chinesse, Chinesse should be first since it supports it's fellow country men and eventually it will help himself. To you Mac111 I sure hope you also have a tendency to support your national products first, if viable and convenient. The beggining of the thread was a
Question about US vs UGL's and the consensus was
For US brewed products. I simply stated my satisfaction with that finding and in no way I intended to offend anyone's susceptibilities. The "patriotic BS" statemtent on your part clearly outlined te fact that your own patriotism came into play and generated your dissatisfaction with my final comment. Had I said Made in France or Italy or whatever your country of origin may be, the post would have likely passed unnoticed. I apologize if I offended you or anyone else. It clearly was not my intention.
Question about US vs UGL's and the consensus was
For US brewed products. I simply stated my satisfaction with that finding and in no way I intended to offend anyone's susceptibilities. The "patriotic BS" statemtent on your part clearly outlined te fact that your own patriotism came into play and generated your dissatisfaction with my final comment. Had I said Made in France or Italy or whatever your country of origin may be, the post would have likely passed unnoticed. I apologize if I offended you or anyone else. It clearly was not my intention.
mac111
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Eh no, circumstance dictates nationality and country which is just a rock in the ocean at the end of the day, and i come from one of the most divided and sectarian nations on earth and still couldn't care less. No other population holds itself in such high regard and self praise as America, its just arrogant and irritating..........
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