Tren and test question

[BigShadow]

Looking to run tren ace for 5 weeks. My question is would I be better to pin Ed at 50mg tren and 25mg prop? Or eod at 100mg tren and 50mg prop. Reason for running low test is to provide some estro control but to keeps tren sides to a lower level. I've read low test high tren is the way to go. Anyone have any experience that they can lend me?

 

[SHARK1]

Looking to run tren ace for 5 weeks. My question is would I be better to pin Ed at 50mg tren and 25mg prop? Or eod at 100mg tren and 50mg prop. Reason for running low test is to provide some estro control but to keeps tren sides to a lower level. I've read low test high tren is the way to go. Anyone have any experience that they can lend me?

My test is currently dosaged at 100mg/ml, I just drain half a ml in one syringe and shoot, drain the other half and keep in another syringe until the next night. The reason for this, however, is to keep blood levels as stable as possible. Given you're sticking to short esthers, in my own personal opinion, the less spaced out the shots are, the better. I don't think it would make that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things, your peaks and valleys will end up at a specific range anyways. ED shots will just allow for much, much smaller peaks and valleys.

 

[Donzi]

Looking to run tren ace for 5 weeks. My question is would I be better to pin Ed at 50mg tren and 25mg prop? Or eod at 100mg tren and 50mg prop. Reason for running low test is to provide some estro control but to keeps tren sides to a lower level. I've read low test high tren is the way to go. Anyone have any experience that they can lend me?

them 2 need - should b ran daily. U pick ur dose

 

[BigShadow]

Thanks, so overall dosage looks g2g? Assuming I don't up it as I move along. The only thing that bothers me is I might not like the ed pin. I've never run a short ester before and have only pinned quads and glutes. But I know if I pin ed I'm going to have to find other sites to hit. Was just thinking such a low volume (less then 1 cc) should be cake ed and provide good results

 

[beezil]

What's your experience with tren?

How many cycles?

I would run 50 mg of each EVERY DAY...

Running test prop at 175mg seems low.

 

[BigShadow]

Have never run tren! 3rd cycle have run test at 750mg per week, dbol, sd, winny, methyl 1 test. Guess that's it.agree with running tren at 50mg. Thinking prop at 25 mg alongside ed as well. Low test high tren seems to be the way to go. Will also run an oral for 4 weeks as well.

 

[MANWHORE]

Have never run tren! 3rd cycle have run test at 750mg per week, dbol, sd, winny, methyl 1 test. Guess that's it.agree with running tren at 50mg. Thinking prop at 25 mg alongside ed as well. Low test high tren seems to be the way to go. Will also run an oral for 4 weeks as well.

I thought most people say higher Test than Tren..
Except for me, of course

Low Test High Tren.. You mean higher dose of Tren
than Test, cause 50mg/day Tren A isn't high.

If your Tren is good, then 50mg/day Should be plenty.
You will know fast whether it's good or not

 

[Dr JIM]

Ah OP ya know even at those low doses your HTPA will be remarkably suppressed, approximating ZIP. I mean if you intend to cycle then do so using a reasonable dose. Like Donzi and MW suggest run T-p at 500-700 and Tren 500-700, which one should be higher, not sure it matters as much as the dose but, I'll defer to MW's and DONZI's opinion, especially since they've done "dump trucks full" of varied AAS!
For the E-2 sides take an AI and enjoy the nice gains from an T&T cycle!

 

[boleiz]

you better send tren at 200 mg as its axis will be supplied rapidly

 

[swoleskunk]

high test low trn . is more happy still maken gains
high trn low test is angry making milk and gains

 

[Pericles]

I am running T E and Tren E, and getting very stable levels (of course...enanthates can be injected every 4-5 days w/ stable levels). Ran Test/Mast/Var for 6 weeks, and then switched to test/tren. I lost a lot of fat on the Mast stack, but gained only about 5-6 % in strength. Total mgs per week were about 800.

I am running 600mg test e a week and a touch less than 300 tren. W Letrozol (only .6 mg eod) and 10 mg Tamox on the days I don't used Letro.

After a week my strength is going through the roof, I am up 6 lbs (maybe in part due to water from test....although Letro and Tamox should control that). We have a seated chest pad row machine at my gym, and I am getting at least 10 reps w/ 5 45 lb plates on each end. The most I have seen anyone else do is 4 on each end, and that guy had 25 lbs on me (I weigh 225). I love training these kids into the ground, especially since I am an old man (50). OK, sorry, enough bragging[)]

Had one night of sweats and a bit of insomnia, but have been fine the rest of the week. Regular cardio (80% MHR for 30 minutes 3 days a week) has been fine, maybe a bit more huffing and puffing. However when I hit the bags (very high intensity....90% plus MHR) I am really dying to finish 20 minutes. Nonetheless, overall I think the strength/muscle gains are worth it. Just going to suck it up and be tough in regards to the cardio

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Most people seem to get less sides with less test than tren, possibly due to the fact that tren is so much more androgenic.

I pin 100 of tren ace/75 of test prop every 36 hours and everything is going good so far, minus the fact that I'm up at 5am typing this. Damn insomnia.

 

[BigShadow]

You get less estro related sides using low test high tren because tren has a stronger affinity to bind to receptors then test. So using high test with tren is pointless because all that test will be converted to estro, there in lies the problem. Estro related sides using tren are near nothing if your using just enough test to.keep your libido going. I dont pin anymore then 25 mg of prop eod. Anymore then that is pointless imo.

 

[BigShadow]

I am running T E and Tren E, and getting very stable levels (of course...enanthates can be injected every 4-5 days w/ stable levels). Ran Test/Mast/Var for 6 weeks, and then switched to test/tren. I lost a lot of fat on the Mast stack, but gained only about 5-6 % in strength. Total mgs per week were about 800.

I am running 600mg test e a week and a touch less than 300 tren. W Letrozol (only .6 mg eod) and 10 mg Tamox on the days I don't used Letro.

After a week my strength is going through the roof, I am up 6 lbs (maybe in part due to water from test....although Letro and Tamox should control that). We have a seated chest pad row machine at my gym, and I am getting at least 10 reps w/ 5 45 lb plates on each end. The most I have seen anyone else do is 4 on each end, and that guy had 25 lbs on me (I weigh 225). I love training these kids into the ground, especially since I am an old man (50). OK, sorry, enough bragging[)]

Had one night of sweats and a bit of insomnia, but have been fine the rest of the week. Regular cardio (80% MHR for 30 minutes 3 days a week) has been fine, maybe a bit more huffing and puffing. However when I hit the bags (very high intensity....90% plus MHR) I am really dying to finish 20 minutes. Nonetheless, overall I think the strength/muscle gains are worth it. Just going to suck it up and be tough in regards to the cardio

Way to much test imo.

 

[BigShadow]

Jeez I didnt even realize I started this thread over a year ago. What an idiot I was then lmao.

 

[GS44]

Test prop 100mg eod with tren ace 50mg eod will give you results .