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Then in another thread he insults my physique

Just to set the record straight, I was the one who made the comment. It was intended as lighthearted tongue in cheek reply given the dose you had mentioned. I know stretch understood it that way.

With all due respect BB, I'm a little surprised you're so touchy about it. It's not like you haven't done your fair share of dishing it out around here. Especially with us noobs. Stretch looks out for the noobs. He encourages them to stick around and lean despite being kicked around a bit.
 
Haha, I like Ben's posts. He usually just says what everyone else is thinking anyway, and he doesn't usually say it in a demeaning way like some of the other guys on here do. He just tells it like it is, so I give him credit for that. So I don't care what anyone says, Ben might be a little harsh but I think you can tell he is genuinely looking out for the newer guys on this site that don't have the experience he or some of the other vets do.

And Ben, don't sweat the physique thing, I didn't see what the comments were, but you look like a big mean dude so keep up the good work :D

Anyway, Thread's getting off track as it sometimes does and now I'm just adding to it so that's it for me.
 
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Just to set the record straight, I was the one who made the comment. It was intended as lighthearted tongue in cheek reply given the dose you had mentioned. I know stretch understood it that way.

With all due respect BB, I'm a little surprised you're so touchy about it. It's not like you haven't done your fair share of dishing it out around here. Especially with us noobs. Stretch looks out for the noobs. He encourages them to stick around and lean despite being kicked around a bit.

Stretch cracked wise, also. As far as my being touchy, I don't like guys that have no pics posted talking shit. Post them....and then fire away. If not. you may be wheelchair bound with a slick mouth for all anyone knows? I have several pics posted at different forums/
As far as a gram of tren yr round goes, I'm running 600mg tren E at the moment, I'm also 3 weeks into my very first gh run. Serostim. 2iu morning and night. I'm running the tren, as I said, as well as 400mg/ew of Watson TestC...100mg/TNE pre workout amd 60mg/Var/ed.
I'll have pharm grade T4 any day now. I just finished and will not reup with mast p. I like it, I just don't think I need it.
I'll be posting pics in about 2 months. I'm hoping not to be recognized. I'm also going to run serostim until they put me in the ground.
 
Yeah...stretch has been both passive aggressive and confrontational since deserting his post as Rep.

Defiant to a fault.

In chronological order Reg. I didn't start with the insults. And I didn't track his IP and post up clues to his identity in the open. Really professional of him.

I didn't take it personal, I just voiced my opinion about him having an agenda. Everyone else lets their respect for Mugz (well deserved from what I hear) cloud their logic IMO. He is the one who came here giving his opinion on a site. I saw that opinion, and the way he voiced it as an agenda and said as much in a respectful way, I thought. Is it not odd, that he has posted this much on SF? He promised to fuck their business and subsequently attacked them on the forum, meanwhile other sources do the same things, even on HIS BOARDS and he says nothing. That is the basis for my opinion, is this not logical? He could have respectfully corrected me, but he has shown that in his opinion I am not worthy of common courtesy. I will not bow down to his reputation. You give respect to get it, which is why I have it for you.

If the only correspondance that I received regarding SF had been with you, I would have quit much sooner. But because of the threats received from MUGZ to have people bash the source, and "turn his full attention on SF" I felt forced into it. And there is something about being forced that just didn't sit right with me. I knew it would have been smarter, and better for me to quit, but foolish pride clouded my judgement. Maybe it would have been better for me to blow Mugz as he requested, and as many others(not you) line up to do. But count me out.

He's blackballed me now on other boards but that's cool. I like it best here anyway.

I understand you don't like the way you were handled and feel like you were pushed around but you have to keep in mind this community is filled with rough men. You have to have thick skin if you're going to make it. I've never lied, falsely represented myself, or given anyone any reason not to trust me. All I've ever done is try to help people and work hard to contribute as best I can. I too was put under the microscope for what seemed like a very long time and when it was happening it freaked me out. I took a leap of faith which is something I'm short on, rolled with the punches, and came out ok.

You may not see it this way but Mugzy is a good guy. I can count on less than one hand the people in this community that I trust and he's on that short list. I am 100% positive he did not use all of the tools at his disposal to disrupt SF as you've claimed. Who do you think asked me to take the time to explain to you some of the technical aspects you may not have been considering?

You may not realize it but the only person who benefited from the pressure which was exerted upon you is you. Slow down, take a step back, analyze the situation, and understand that you separating yourself from SF was in your best interest regardless of the methods used to facilitate that happening.

Best of luck to you Stretch.
 
As far as my being touchy, I don't like guys that have no pics posted talking shit. Post them....and then fire away. If not. you may be wheelchair bound with a slick mouth for all anyone knows?

Fair enough, I hadn't thought about it when I made the comment but you make an excellent point. My apologies for being out of line, it was really meant as a joke. Truth is, you look like one bad ass beast bro. Don't take this the wrong way but I think it's a lot harder for us guys that aren't in our 20's anymore. You're doing a kick ass job BB. :)
 
Did I ever mention that I was right about this guy and distance myself from him a long time ago?:)

No disrespect but;

You asked for payment for your help in promoting the site.
You were respectfully denied, because we (SF)felt your services were no longer needed.
Then (within 48hrs) you "distanced" yourself, with a post lambasting SF where you failed to mention the fact that you were a recently dismissed, former employee.

Those are the facts. The post I quoted, in my opinion, misrepresents the situation. If that wasn't your intent, or I am reading something wrong, I apologize.
 
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IMO, I have found Stretch, Ben, and Sworder to all be stand up guys. If you take a step back, I think they all help new guys, and don't let vituperation get out of control.

There are members on this forum, however, that do live to bring others down. I don't respond to them any more, because it is clear that they live for stirring up shit.
 
Oh, you mean those such as yourself PC whom grossly exaggerate their qualifications like, claiming to be a "trained research scientist", thereby justifying the confusion created on one of my posts?

You are your own worst enemy PC, so cease the blame game and accept responsibility for being one SICK fella, and acquire some psychiatric help, ASAP!

Jim
 
Ben, I agree, good idea (posting up pics) if you are an expert in human performance, your physique should reflect that fact.

Hopwever, I think Stretches avatar is perfect as is.
 
No disrespect but;

You asked for payment for your help in promoting the site.
You were respectfully denied, because we (SF)felt your services were no longer needed.
Then (within 48hrs) you "distanced" yourself, with a post lambasting SF where you failed to mention the fact that you were a recently dismissed, former employee.

Those are the facts. The post I quoted, in my opinion, misrepresents the situation. If that wasn't your intent, or I am reading something wrong, I apologize.

Hello Stretch, never really communicated with you before. But I think you are off topic. I am coming into a "Karl - Sciroxx supplier SteroidsFax MIA" saying that I am glad I am glad that my name is not attached to a person who customers perceive is missing in action is good.

In regards to SF and his business it will be short lived. It is too competitive of a marked with pricing and delivery time, quality of UGLs are pretty high over the large spectrum. There are 1-2 labs which I have ever used which has been superb in regards to the dose, and they are overdosed just for that reason.

I have never been an "employee" or received cash payment, I got a cycle and said I would try the gear out. I never "promote" in the sense where I would state things that are not true. Inquire with SF with the "amount" I was "paid" and at the same time see if sales went from 10 order/month to 50+/month and then my help was no longer needed. But I am not here to talk about that even, just commenting on a person who seems to be MIA and that I said in the past not to take my word for this guys service.
 
SF is reckless and suffered from glaring organizational problems from the beginning. For those reasons SF has been criticized by people who are aware of the way this community operates. I offered you advice and attempted to point you in the right direction not because I get something out of criticizing you but because I wanted to help you. SF is extremely overt and brazen which is why I would never use them.

You're taking the criticism of the SF operation personally and lashing out with a string of boring personal attacks.

This forum lives for personal attacks, some of which are not boring![:o)]
 
I find it interesting that you couldn't resist another opportunity to attack stretch but failed to comment on the advice to go to eroids.

That is just Jim (and CBS). Their MO is to attack from the safety of their computers. He has called me a fraud, saying my education and athletic achievements are a fraud, that the person on my avatar is not me, etc. They also claimed that my PhD is a fraud.

I offered to bet $5k if I cannot cannot verify the above achievements. Another forum member lives near me, and I could meet him, show my pics and degrees. I have asked for them to take this bet multiple times. Their response have always been a new set of personal attacks. I asked both of them to post pics of themselves, since they are masters of human performance. Again they did not address this offer, instead launching a new set of personal attacks.

I think that they are 140 lbs @20% bodyfat.
 
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That is just Jim (and CBS). Their MO is to attack from the safety of their computers. He has called me a fraud, saying my education and athletic achievements are a fraud, that the person on my avatar is not me, etc. They also claimed that my PhD is a fraud.

I offered to bet $5k if I cannot cannot verify the above achievements. Another forum member lives near me, and I could meet him, show my pics and degrees. I have asked for them to take this bet multiple times. Their response have always been a new set of personal attacks. I asked both of them to post pics of themselves, since they are masters of human performance. Again they did not address this offer, instead launching a new set of personal attacks.

I think that they are 140 lbs @20% bodyfat.

PC, you're obsessed. Obsessed with the belief that anybody cares about your achievements and obsessed with preserving your fragile ego in spite of the fact that you're unwilling or unable to answer the questions Dr Jim posed to you in the deca thread. In order to avoid answering those questions, you continue to deflect and evade and obfuscate the issue - something for which you are truly an expert - and that does make you a fraud.

CBS
fraudbuster (please obsess)
 
PC, you're obsessed. Obsessed with the belief that anybody cares about your achievements and obsessed with preserving your fragile ego in spite of the fact that you're unwilling or unable to answer the questions Dr Jim posed to you in the deca thread. In order to avoid answering those questions, you continue to deflect and evade and obfuscate the issue - something for which you are truly an expert - and that does make you a fraud.

CBS
fraudbuster (please obsess)

He stopped responding to Jim because I begged him and he acquiesced. He gave me his word he would not respond to him in any fashion.

If I could get you or him to make the same agreement regarding eachother MESO would be much better off for it.



EDIT: Guess I missed the previous post he made, where he called Jim and you out....unprovoked in this thread. SMFH
 
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I guess that didn't work out too well.

Yup. I guess the bullshit, cockmeasuring will continue. Since everyone continues to display the uncontrollable compulsion to respond to any post the other makes.

U guys chase eachother around calling into question anything soemone on the other "team" says. Its ridiculous.

I've done it too.
 
PC
Why do you believe a "bet" is warranted to prove your worth to this forum?

Your actions (posts) speak louder than your words fella!

I will PROMISE to submit to ALL of you posts should you provide UNEQUIVOCAL proof for the following;

1) A Phd granted from as US based university

2) A BLACK BELT in any form of martial arts, received in the US

3) have won ANY US based BB contest on the PROFESSIONAL level.

4) qualifications which would justify your claims to being a "Trained Research Scientist"

You have my word on this PC, moreover should you submit ALL of this info I will leave Meso, no questions asked!


Otherwise stop the whining about how life and those on Meso aren't being fair!

Jim
 

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