Mountain Dog Training? Anyone using it?

shamrockbear1

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Is anyone using this program I started to really get into it lately reading the articles and agreeing with many of the philosophies has anyone been using it for over 6 months and also post your routine up if you have one please... Looking to fine tune mine so far I have been liking it but want to dial it in a bit... If anyone is looking to find the articles they are posted up a t nation for free.
 
I'm interested in this too. I have heard John Meadows talk before on a podcast and he sounded like he had a good undertanding of everything involved.

There are some good articles on his training on T-Nation.
 
I dont get it, guys want to use the same principles that have been around for 100 yrs and just call it something new, LOL. I see nothing in that program that is any different than anything else, just a new name
 
I dont get it, guys want to use the same principles that have been around for 100 yrs and just call it something new, LOL. I see nothing in that program that is any different than anything else, just a new name


Your thinking is backwards if it was as simple as just doing compound movements like bench squat dead lift we would all be big and huge I wouldn't need any ones advice... You should really read his stuff after me personally lifting for 24 years his concepts are very good, it's about sequence of excersises, volume, intensity I'll give you one of his excersises programs listed on t-nation and you'll cry like a girl... He's is very clear in his theory and I've learned more tips from him than reading any board or paying any trainer which I have never done. I live in Chicago and I gave one of the best bodybuilding trainers a shot and felt after one free intro session he was not worth $400 for 5 sessions he wanted. Meadows I think has great advice and good clear concepts that I now see other bodybuilders applying these principles that i never noticed before and its more clear to me. Here is just one great simple thing he talks about increasing your bench just doing pull ups in between your heavy bench sets will over time increase your bench when you plateau just 5-7 reps for 3-4 sets super set them. Both regular and chin up style... And funny would you know it one of the biggest guys I know at the gym was doing pullups during his chest routine.... So I think there is a lot of merit to his theories you should read them before just making dumb comments... This maybe why you may never break into the freaking huge club and rather you will stay in the you look cut club...
 
I dont get it, guys want to use the same principles that have been around for 100 yrs and just call it something new, LOL. I see nothing in that program that is any different than anything else, just a new name

That's how we know you have no clue or concept of mountaindog training. I've been lifting for 19 years an Johns methods are different an top notch. That in conjunction with his diet is well beyond that of other methods. He doesn't do cardio an comes in completely shredded condition based on training an diet.
 
I'm sure mountaindog training is a good training program. I've never really been drawn to gurus and training gurus spring up every other day with the latest and greatest program. Not long ago, Dog Shit was all the rage. HST, HIT, German volume, etc., the list is endless. Now mountaindog training is "it." Next year, it'll be something else.

Most advanced trainees have figured out what works for "them." They take parts from different styles and incorporate into their training style but that doesn't mean it's right for everyone.

Anyone that's broken into the "freaking huge club" got there with above average genetics first, followed by massive drug use. Training style is a distant third - maybe even fourth after diet. Bodybuilding is a case of, either you have it or you don't. Reaching the upper echelons of the IFBB is an impossible feat for greater than 99% of the people who try - no matter what drugs, diet or how hard they train or whose training style they use.

Nobody wants to believe they lack the genes needed to succeed in this sport and that keeps a lot of trainers and gurus in business.
 
I agree genetics does help and your right massive and i mean massive amounts of drugs help I'm not talking about these BS posted cycle of 8 weeks of test and deca. I'm talking about 24 weeks of 10 different drugs and then some. Training next, then diet and metabolism too is genetics some guys eat like shit and still manage to grow..
What I like about John meadows is not that it some fad but it what we already use and fine tunes it, there is absolutely nothing mind blowing about his programs other than, sequence, intensity and making it work for you. As I stated if it was about the basics we would just stick to compound movements and we would be huge.. But I know and many other agree after 20'years of lifting hows that going? Right not seeing the growth we would like... That's why I recommend you read up on him, he's just stating the obvious maximum contraction, slow reps to tear down muscle, increase intensity, he just puts it together in a concept that really makes sense and works I don't see this as a fad but rather a guy like me and you with average genetics making himself grow... I tell you one more thing to really work his program makes you realize all the other stuff you been has been low intensity and not lazer like focus on each muscle group, and not dedicated period. Obviously, we all like certain training styles whether they are comfortable for us is different than if they work, we tend to do things that are easy (how many times you go tomthe gym and your like screw it just the old routine is fine, If you start to change that you will see change in you size and training. Sure doing bench at the start of your routine seems like what everyone does right but do it after you do dumbell incline and high volume decline add flies add some chin ups then do bench on your last excersises and don't worry I'll be there to spot you when you can't even bench 135.... I'm not into gurus either but I think good common sense training making you rethink your own training ands give you the best gains you have had in years... Now don't get me wrong dont wanna pay this guy $2500 for his entire program hell no but I'll take all his free stuff for now... At some point I may pony up and pay, because think of all the countless hours and research of training that produced little results you have done what's that worth to you over the years right and how many guys blame the gear, claiming gear sucked and they didn't get the results they wanted sometimes its not the gear it's you, we all need to own up to take responsibility for our lack of good training and dedication. If this sounds like to much for you then quit gear and start crossfit or maybe yoga you sissy this may be your speed not mine. So I don't really like when random douche bags make just bad blanket statements about things being old and new again I just like to be a progressive thinker.
I now am getting of my soap box thank you for listening to my bs.
 
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Your thinking is backwards if it was as simple as just doing compound movements like bench squat dead lift we would all be big and huge I wouldn't need any ones advice... You should really read his stuff after me personally lifting for 24 years his concepts are very good, it's about sequence of excersises, volume, intensity I'll give you one of his excersises programs listed on t-nation and you'll cry like a girl... He's is very clear in his theory and I've learned more tips from him than reading any board or paying any trainer which I have never done. I live in Chicago and I gave one of the best bodybuilding trainers a shot and felt after one free intro session he was not worth $400 for 5 sessions he wanted. Meadows I think has great advice and good clear concepts that I now see other bodybuilders applying these principles that i never noticed before and its more clear to me. Here is just one great simple thing he talks about increasing your bench just doing pull ups in between your heavy bench sets will over time increase your bench when you plateau just 5-7 reps for 3-4 sets super set them. Both regular and chin up style... And funny would you know it one of the biggest guys I know at the gym was doing pullups during his chest routine.... So I think there is a lot of merit to his theories you should read them before just making dumb comments... This maybe why you may never break into the freaking huge club and rather you will stay in the you look cut club...

"one of the biggest guys I know at the gym was doing pullups during his chest routine"

"I paid $400 for 5 sessions"

Sounds to me like your the one who will never break into the huge club, not me, I was in the huge club a long time ago. But good luck
 
My bad, I misread that, good I'm glad you didnt shell out $500 on training. I didnt mean any disrespect, I just cannot see what is different about this program than anything else that has been out there thats all. But if it works then by all means do it
 
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