Balkangear

[David_Italy]

Unfortunately they are all lies, even members of the government taking money from the sale of products balkan, a member of the same government is a partner in the Balkan. In Moldova there I was, certain things I know for sure. The products balkan have never passed a test on the purity and dosages, and do not comply with European regulations. For this reason it can be sold only within the pharmacy network in Moldova. Outside of Moldova, has banned the sale through pharmacies has ... I could write a book on the Balkan. If you do not believe me, read books by William Llewellyn.

 

[conquistador]

Unfortunately they are all lies, even members of the government taking money from the sale of products balkan, a member of the same government is a partner in the Balkan. In Moldova there I was, certain things I know for sure. The products balkan have never passed a test on the purity and dosages, and do not comply with European regulations. For this reason it can be sold only within the pharmacy network in Moldova. Outside of Moldova, has banned the sale through pharmacies has ... I could write a book on the Balkan. If you do not believe me, read books by William Llewellyn.

Fuck William, he says Asia Pharma is pharmaceutical grade. For a long time I've been thinking Asia Pharma only exists in pictures, all I read from world-pharma.org, the only source I'm aware of that "sells" Asia pharma, is scamming complaints of orders not arriving.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

The Moldovian Prime Minister thinks pretty highly of "Balkan Pharmaceuticals". Just saying...

http://www.gov.md/libview.php?l=en&id=6189&idc=436

The whole Balkan thing is very confusing. They do appear to manufacture medicines other than AAS which would suggest they are a legit company, at least in Moldova and the article you posted also suggests legitimacy. But that might not mean much in that part of the world. In addition, Balkan Pharmaceuticals had a banner advertising AAS on promuscle at one time. I don't believe they were offering direct sales to the public but how many legitimate pharmaceutical companies advertise on steroid boards? None that I know of.

Regardless, interesting article that certainly adds another piece to the puzzle. Thanks for posting.

CBS

 

[pittbox]

Go over to eroids and check out a couple sites, the shadiest looking ones will have a full line up of Bulkan, Gen-shi and Dragon farm.
There are at least 4 or 5 of them, they look like sister sites, almost identical.
That's enough for me to leave it alone.

 

[Ourlegacy]

I am pretty sure all of them are euroking spin off sites but I could be wrong. I think it was addressed here at one time. I've used dragon pharma Test and it was decent but everything I've read on Balkan or Gen-Shi seems suspect. They have so many mixed opinions on both.

 

[Gunrunner]

The whole Balkan thing is very confusing. They do appear to manufacture medicines other than AAS which would suggest they are a legit company, at least in Moldova and the article you posted also suggests legitimacy. But that might not mean much in that part of the world. In addition, Balkan Pharmaceuticals had a banner advertising AAS on promuscle at one time. I don't believe they were offering direct sales to the public but how many legitimate pharmaceutical companies advertise on steroid boards? None that I know of.
CBS

I know the old Balkan gear was all real HG pharm stuff. After they had such great reviews in the book Anabolics it didn't take long for it to be faked. Not sure if the counterfieted stuff is any good or not but if you can get the real deal you will have the Real Deal.

 

[Millard]

The whole Balkan thing is very confusing. They do appear to manufacture medicines other than AAS which would suggest they are a legit company, at least in Moldova and the article you posted also suggests legitimacy. But that might not mean much in that part of the world. In addition, Balkan Pharmaceuticals had a banner advertising AAS on promuscle at one time. I don't believe they were offering direct sales to the public but how many legitimate pharmaceutical companies advertise on steroid boards? None that I know of.

Regardless, interesting article that certainly adds another piece to the puzzle. Thanks for posting.

CBS

BP clearly has origins in underground. I believe BP represents the first time a source tried to "go legit" by "registering" a steroid laboratory as a pharmaceutical company in a country where the barrier to entry was low. BP is the model that many others sources/UGLs tried to follow (with varying degrees of success).

The motivations for doing this are many. Some just wanted a cover for the UGL operations. Some may have really wanted the ability to produce higher quality products. A few may have realized that there is infinitely more money in the legitimate pharmaceutical business than the limited AAS-using bodybuilding base.

Many people are skeptical with perception along the lines of 'once a UGL always a UGL'. Many have failed e.g. President Obama going after Asia Pharma. Others have made efforts to distance themselves from the bodybuilding/underground market e.g. Unigen.

And there's always the possibility that some have succeeded in making the transition e.g. Balkan. It seems more likely than the alternative of a conspiracy infiltrating the highest levels of the Moldovan government.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

BP clearly has origins in underground. I believe BP represents the first time a source tried to "go legit" by "registering" a steroid laboratory as a pharmaceutical company in a country where the barrier to entry was low. BP is the model that many others sources/UGLs tried to follow (with varying degrees of success).

The motivations for doing this are many. Some just wanted a cover for the UGL operations. Some may have really wanted the ability to produce higher quality products. A few may have realized that there is infinitely more money in the legitimate pharmaceutical business than the limited AAS-using bodybuilding base.

Many people are skeptical with perception along the lines of 'once a UGL always a UGL'. Many have failed e.g. President Obama going after Asia Pharma. Others have made efforts to distance themselves from the bodybuilding/underground market e.g. Unigen.

And there's always the possibility that some have succeeded in making the transition e.g. Balkan. It seems more likely than the alternative of a conspiracy infiltrating the highest levels of the Moldovan government.

I don't believe there is a conspiracy involving the Moldovan government and BP but I'm skeptical about the legitamacy of BP, not because of their origins as a ugl, but because they're based in Moldova - possibly one of the most corrupt countries in the world and where anything can be bought if you're willing to pay, including government licensure.

AFAIK, BP has not been granted approval to export their product to any country in the EU or former communist bloc with the possible exception of Ukraine, which is just as corrupt. That is telling, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud their efforts and hope they succeed, but until BP is given approval in the EU, they will remain an ugl in my mind.

CBS

 

[Stayin Small]

The mosquito only comes in their higher end gear. It's like their version of the worm in the tequila bottle.

I fucking lost it LOL.

 

[Millard]

I don't believe there is a conspiracy involving the Moldovan government and BP but I'm skeptical about the legitamacy of BP, not because of their origins as a ugl, but because they're based in Moldova - possibly one of the most corrupt countries in the world and where anything can be bought if you're willing to pay, including government licensure.

AFAIK, BP has not been granted approval to export their product to any country in the EU or former communist bloc with the possible exception of Ukraine, which is just as corrupt. That is telling, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud their efforts and hope they succeed, but until BP is given approval in the EU, they will remain an ugl in my mind.

CBS

I don't think it's a question of legitimacy. It's probably not the right word. BP is likely just as legitimate as any other pharma in former Soviet republic at this point in time. But because of the corruption you mentioned, that does not necessarily make it a good company with quality product.

BP may never make it into the EU market. I don't know how likely it is that Moldova will ever be part of the EU. But they may not need to in order to be successful. There are a lot of people in CIS countries

 

[David_Italy]

Guys in Moldova even I can open a laboratory, I pay the supervisory bodies, they will say that the product is regular. The game is done, can I sell my products at the pharmacy. The Balkan has done so! I give you an anticipation: soon you will find the products of the vermodje in MD pharmacy. I hope you know that it is one of the worst UGL that never existed. Gen-shi is shit, they say that produce it in Japan, but in Japan there is no laboratory Gen-shi and their products in Japan no one has ever seen them. They produce their shit in turkey!

 

[biggerben69]

I am pretty sure all of them are euroking spin off sites but I could be wrong. I think it was addressed here at one time. I've used dragon pharma Test and it was decent but everything I've read on Balkan or Gen-Shi seems suspect. They have so many mixed opinions on both.

Here's a little nugget of into because Euroking's name was dropped. EuroKing and UGF(Unndergroundfreak) are one in the same. Caught pretty much dead t rights by one of the most respected guys in the community.
There will be more info forthcoming about this.

 

[BigSha]

Balkan Pharmaceutics are a legit concern that produces much other types of medicines with 20+ years on the market . If you don't trust me just google them .

 

[BigSha]

And if they are not legal how the f ... In Bulgaria where i used to love they are produced in 4 cities and in all out pharmacies we can buy Balkan drugs ???? Just wondering , may be all the legal pharmacies are buying ugl aspirin

 

[David_Italy]

You probably do not know who you're talking about. I shot all the countries of the East, I take care of anabolic steroids for 15 years. The owner of the balkan began his career producing fake British Dragon. In 2005/2006 had the brilliant idea to create their own brand. He began producing balkan in 10 ml vials and he produced more steroids than the current balkan. The first few balkan vials were virtually identical to the fake british dragon (same style, same writing, same plugs, etc.). In 2007 he managed to enter the pharmaceutical channel MD their shit (with the corruption of course). And do not say stupid things, the balkan do not find in pharmacies of any European country, why has not passed any tests on the purity and dosages. And remember that there are no pharmaceutical companies for body builder. Balkan is a UGL like all the others. There are no trenbolon pharmaceutical registrat in any country of the world. The photo below shows you clearly that the fake BD and the first balkan were produced in the same basement. Before you talk to me about UGL, you have to inform well, otherwise you will make pictures of shit.

 

[BigSha]

Than how do u explain the fact that Balkan are sold in the Bulgarian pharmacies ? And how came like this than they are produced in 4 major cities in Bulgaria ? And is really produced in a fabric / laboratory ? Not just some basement ??? I do not say that there are no counterfeits of it , as for almost all other legit sources .

 

[David_Italy]

So ... I was in Hungary, I was in Romania, I was in Bulgaria, I was in Moldova. I have visited many pharmacies in those countries and products balkan I have seen only in pharmacies in moldova. I asked the pharmacists of the products balkan, in bulgaria, romania and hungary they do not even know what is the balkan! The balkan manufactures and markets (within the pharmaceutical channel) only and exclusively in Moldova. Outside is banned! This is the address of the laboratory-basement Balkan: Str.n. Gradescu 4, mun. Chisinau, Republica Moldova. I was there I saw with my own eyes where they produce their shit. If you do not believe me go see! The discussion ends here. For me balkan = shit. I use another. You are free not to believe me, and use the shit you want. I do not know how can you trust a brand that started its career producing fake of other brands. bah

 

[conquistador]

So ... I was in Hungary, I was in Romania, I was in Bulgaria, I was in Moldova. I have visited many pharmacies in those countries and products balkan I have seen only in pharmacies in moldova. I asked the pharmacists of the products balkan, in bulgaria, romania and hungary they do not even know what is the balkan! The balkan manufactures and markets (within the pharmaceutical channel) only and exclusively in Moldova. Outside is banned! This is the address of the laboratory-basement Balkan: Str.n. Gradescu 4, mun. Chisinau, Republica Moldova. I was there I saw with my own eyes where they produce their shit. If you do not believe me go see! The discussion ends here. For me balkan = shit. I use another. You are free not to believe me, and use the shit you want. I do not know how can you trust a brand that started its career producing fake of other brands. bah

Tren ace, pharmaceutical grade company? It's pretty fucking obvious these are products marketed to bodybuilders.

 

[BigSha]

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[BigSha]

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